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I have been a Christian for almost a year. It seems everytime I feel confortable with my relationship in the Lord I start to stumble. I don't read the bible as much or pray as much or talk to God. I don't think of Godly things any more and sin. I hate it! It's like I kept turning back to my old life. How can I stop though? I love God.. but my relationship with Him right now is barely a relationship. I use to love reading the bible and now I dont enjoy it much. I use to pray alot during the day, but now I do a 'quick prayer' for my food and before i go to sleep. What can I do to stop stumbling? What can I do to stop thinking sinful thoughts?
 

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You can start by praying these feelings you've just expressed to God, and ask for His help in returning to Him and staying firm in Him. Let Him break you over this. Pray to love Him more.

Since you're posting here, I'd say some of that work is done - so read your Bible. Pick an area, any area that you want to eliminate sin in, and read Bible passages relating to it.
 
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Many times I felt the same way as you, I seemed to always fall away and feel guilty in the end after falling away. I questioned whether or not i was a christian and felt i was so underserving of the grace of Jesus. Then I realized that being a christian is having a close relationship with God, having God in your thoughts all the time, enjoying the prayer sessions and praying continually and asking for his guidance and support.

You have to understand that being a christian is a constant struggle, your examples of stumbling are very normal for new christians and is a manifestations of you trying to leave your sinful life behind you. I can advise that whenever you feel tempted or feel like you have a dirty thought instanty pray to God to take this temptation away and prtect you and I know that God will come to you and help you though it.

Continue your struggle for God and blessings willl flow so deep and joy will come in waves so great nothing can describe the feeling.

May God bless and keep you forever
 
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I have been a Christian for almost a year. It seems everytime I feel confortable with my relationship in the Lord I start to stumble. I don't read the bible as much or pray as much or talk to God. I don't think of Godly things any more and sin. I hate it! It's like I kept turning back to my old life. How can I stop though? I love God.. but my relationship with Him right now is barely a relationship. I use to love reading the bible and now I dont enjoy it much. I use to pray alot during the day, but now I do a 'quick prayer' for my food and before i go to sleep. What can I do to stop stumbling? What can I do to stop thinking sinful thoughts?

MY DEAR SISTER IN CHRIST,

What you are experiencing--an alternating hot and cold relationship with your Lord--is not uncommon and is the result of the Evil One doing everything in his power to turn you from God and lead you back into the darkness.
Something that has really helped me in this regard is a book entitled "ABIDE IN CHRIST" by Andrew Murray. It is available online as a free download at: http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/murray/5f00.0562/5f00.0562.c.htm
Parts of the book are rather hard reading, but i would encourage you to read through it anyway--it's pretty short--and you will, i guarantee, get enough out of it to be well worth the time spent--assuming you really do hate your times of separation from your Lord. Give the book a try!
No matter how you "feel", keep reading your Bible and Praying on a REGULAR SET SCHEDULE--whether you "feel like it" at the time or not. FEELINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SPIRITUAL GROWTH and, if fact, are often our worse enemies, mainly because they are so easy for Satan to play around with. If you are faithful in your Bible Reading and Prayer Time, God will likewise be faithful, and the time of dryness/lukewarmness will pass.
If you need a source of accountability to help you set your schedule and keep to it, and you can't find anyone more qualified, i would be willing to volunteer. (Be sure you are serious, though, because my daughter thinks i'm kind of strict!:mad: :) )

MAY GOD BLESS YOUR EFFORTS TO GROW TOWARDS HIM!

IN CHRIST'S LOVE,
ephraim
 
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only4u said:
I have been a Christian for almost a year. It seems everytime I feel confortable with my relationship in the Lord I start to stumble. I don't read the bible as much or pray as much or talk to God. I don't think of Godly things any more and sin. I hate it! It's like I kept turning back to my old life. How can I stop though? I love God.. but my relationship with Him right now is barely a relationship. I use to love reading the bible and now I dont enjoy it much. I use to pray alot during the day, but now I do a 'quick prayer' for my food and before i go to sleep. What can I do to stop stumbling? What can I do to stop thinking sinful thoughts?
Keep up the fight!!! Never stop fighting. Everytime you go through one of your battles, keep in mind that everytime you come out of that "valley" that it's another sweet victory for you, your spirt, and God and that your stonger from it.
Dont let anyone tell you that once your a Christian everything is sweet as pie and a feild of roses. Nope, once your a Christian, your a target. The devil wants you now. He wants to steel you from God. Do you want the Devil to win? I'm sure your answer is no. So dont be upset about all these challenges, just be happy that your getting them, cause for you to have them is a good sign that your "REALLY" a "TRUE" christian. PLEASE keep in mind this is a good thing as long as your coming out of the temptations (not getting stuck).

REPENT!
This is my favorit saying:
"Smile fellow Christian, cause it's only going to get worse!":)
I wish you all the luck!
Don't ever give up!
 
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I was about to lose God until it kicked me in the face...but that's a different story...think about your sin and if you are saved....it seems that you are not ready for the return of Christ. And you're denying Him by forgetting Him and going bout your life like He's not there. What do you think Christ will say when today He comes and you are not ready. Jesus says that He will be coming as a theif in the night, meaning that no one will know when He comes. It can be right now as we are talking. How precious is your Salvation. Are those days and nights of sinning worth eternal life without God. Fun from sinning lasts only a short while, not even enough to quench our thirst. Why don't you give your life to Jesus and do His will. Everytime you're closer to God, Satan throws more temptations at you. Did you know that Satan accuses us before God night and day? (Revelation 12:10). Peter says in 1 Peter 5:8 for us to be self-controlled and alert because the devil is like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. And that's exactly what Satan wants us to keep on doing, to keep on sinning so that we will fall away from God, our only Salvation in Christ....Don't believe his lies....his lies that you need to have "fun", to party, to be cool, to be accepted. It's easy to deny Christ when you're sinning, and hard to stand for Christ. I'm telling you the truth that when Christ comes he will deny anyone before God in heaven, who has denyed Him before humans....When we get lost in our sins, we begin to forget how precious Jesus is to us, and we become afraid of coming back to Him, and even have shame that we are Christians. Because the people we hang out with when we sin are not for God, and we don't want them to know that we are for Jesus, we are shameful of Jesus. But that is foolish! How can we the sinners be ashamed of the most High? It's stupid, but we do. Not one of those friends can compare to Christ, but when we stand there among them, we are tempted to want to be accepted or to fit in. And through our human wants, we ignore Christ, and leave Him in the dark, when He has carried our sins. And the Father forsake Him, because of us. Is He not worthy? Of course He is, but not us. If there is no Christ, there is no us with God. Live with Jesus, He loves you, and came to save you.
 
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Y'know sis,

If you have ears for this, my advice to you is


stop trying.



It was after years and years of trying to be good, to make God happy, to make myself happy, to overcome, and FAILING time and time again.... that I finally was exhausted and told God,

"Lord, I am totally tired of this. I don't even know how to assess whether I love you or not. I want to say I do love you, but in my understanding of your Words (...if you love Me, you will keep My commandments), I guess I do not love you. In any case, I cannot do this anymore. I'm sorry. I've tried for years, but can no longer."

Almost as soon as I was finished uttering those words to God, God answered me. His Spirit conveyed, in total understanding to my inner man,

"You never could do it. I've been waiting for you to stop trying. It has all been accomplished in My Son, and the work is FINISHED."

And then, simultaneously, I entered into His rest (peace), as He also invited me again to enjoy His rest! I came back to the original gospel. It was staggering, and yet now I see that I think it is necessary for us to struggle with the Law (new covenant commandments), as believers, so that we, too, can experience the futility of the Law and works.


So, my advice to you is to stop all your efforts at trying to be good and begin to enter into His Rest. Enjoy His Grace. Your soul (self) will NEVER be able to achieve what only the Holy Spirit can do for you. And you will not understand this, truly, without experimentation.

The amazing thing about this, is that as you start to experiment with God, and receive His grace, and never-ending love, that THAT will begin to affect you, and change you from the inside ...out. It's amazing.

Is sin wrong? Is it okay to sin?

These questions just completely miss the point. These are the wrong questions altogether.

Legalistically, (if I am forced to give an answer to that question), then obviously, I guess, sin is wrong. BUT that is not what is at issue.

If sin were the issue, then we were already given a covenant to that affect (to address the sins of doing and not doing)..... it was called the LAW. And the Law did not bring about righteousness. Quite the opposite. The Law brought forth death! It is a ministry of death. And none, not one, of the forefathers, the patriarchs, nor disciples, could own up to its requirements. They were all crushed under its burden.

Grace and Peace in our Lord Jesus Christ!


So, sometimes a guy has to spell it out to make its impact: Go ahead and sin, experience the liberty and freedom of God, and as you continue to experience His Love and Grace, you will begin to notice a huge change in your inner person. Changes that will begin to happen in you that you could NEVER have made happen to yourself in your struggle against sin.

Reiterating: You already know your impossible attempts at mastering sin. So, attempting to master it is NOT the answer.

The added burden from the immature church, is to punish yourself (as you fail in performance) and keep up the pain and struggle. "Somehow, if you have a sense of guilt, it shows (to the 'church'), that you still have hope, and 'they' will still consider you on the hopeful list.

How awful!!!!!! That, will never give a person peace!!! Never experience FREEDOM.

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If you follow my advice, stop trying, God will get the glory when you experience the change that you yourself could never do. You will KNOW His Holy Spirit, and you will become a living testimony to Jesus.... by His Spirit.

There are Old Testament examples of this principle. Maybe I will post them later, but they went something like this: The people craved, lusted and were wanton, God gave them what they desired, but made their souls lean (empty). Then, they came to realize this and repented.

Kinda like, the cure to a poison is more poison. Sometimes it works that way.

But thanks be to God, for His Son. It always comes back to the free gift of God. Not works!
 
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I have done that many times,I finally had to get a well made up mind that I wanted Christ completely in my life,not just some here and some there.I still may have some tiny setbacks but sense I have realized that I have to stop myself and draw nearer to the Lord,I can't hear his voice and follow his ways if I'm in the world,I also wouldn't pray for myself but did for others,I fianlly realized that my needs are just as important to others,and he doesn't love me less,I have really grown the last couple of years,I thank God for all he's done in my life,keep praying and in time you will have that close relationship with the Lord,never give up and wonder why it isn't working for you,for it will,God bless you.
 
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Look at Romans 7 Paul had trouble with his flesh. Please do not give up. Remember that just because you are a Christian does not mean that you would have it easy. When we choose to become Christians, we like Jesus seek glory, honor, and immorality. But he never said that it would be easy. The problem is that Satan doesn't want us to receive from God. God is cheering for you and Satan is cheering for you. The truth is, that Satan is a loser. He wants us to suffer like he will. God wants us to enjoy his inheritance. Trust God to do it for you. If you ask, you will receive.
 
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only4u said:
I have been a Christian for almost a year. It seems everytime I feel confortable with my relationship in the Lord I start to stumble. I don't read the bible as much or pray as much or talk to God. I don't think of Godly things any more and sin. I hate it! It's like I kept turning back to my old life. How can I stop though? I love God.. but my relationship with Him right now is barely a relationship. I use to love reading the bible and now I dont enjoy it much. I use to pray alot during the day, but now I do a 'quick prayer' for my food and before i go to sleep. What can I do to stop stumbling? What can I do to stop thinking sinful thoughts?
There's good advice here, esp. with the Romans 7 (go on to Rom 8, though!), and the observation that yes, this is exactly what Christian life is about. It's recognizing and responding to the Spirit's moving in you to show you this situation occurring in your life.

But what do you do about it?

The church is also given to encourage you, keep you going when it's not easy (check out Hebrews 3, and there're more, like 1 Cor 12-13). So look to people in your church to help make greater sense and bring more insight. They can help you with what Scripture is saying to your life.

My history also shows where I hit a plateau of Scriptural understanding or application, and then something different clicks and a whole new light breaks in on living with Christ.
 
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many times we get off on the wrong foot, or should i say our firsts steps were not sure steps but stumbling steps, i have seen this happen over and over with many people, we must learn to step before we can walk. so lets learn to walk. read first Cor13:4-7 this defines Love by 12 manners-characteristics-fruits of, the Bible states that God is Love , Jesus was and is our example of Love, learn these 12 manners and apply them to your life in all you do and say, put them down on a piece of paper and carry it with you and refer to it in all you do in your life, learn and apply it to all things try not to step on or go against the characteristics of Love, when you learn and apply these in your life your walk with God will be straight your stumbles few. how can we Love God how can we Love Christ how cwn we Love our neighbor if we dont KNOW Love. i have seen this fix manys relationship with God and seen many grow and few stumble.
 
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only4u said:
I have been a Christian for almost a year. It seems everytime I feel confortable with my relationship in the Lord I start to stumble. I don't read the bible as much or pray as much or talk to God. I don't think of Godly things any more and sin. I hate it! It's like I kept turning back to my old life. How can I stop though? I love God.. but my relationship with Him right now is barely a relationship. I use to love reading the bible and now I dont enjoy it much. I use to pray alot during the day, but now I do a 'quick prayer' for my food and before i go to sleep. What can I do to stop stumbling? What can I do to stop thinking sinful thoughts?
There's an old adage, "Practice makes perfect."

I believe that each of us has, during every moment of our lives, the opportunity to either follow God or not. The more we choose to follow God, the easier it is to do. You're doing fine. Keep up the faith and stay on the right path.
 
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There is some good advice here in continuing to read the bible and to pray which will help but sometimesthat is difficult. As one other said get someone to keep you accountable. There is a passage that says the older women should teach younger women and the same for guys. Find an older woman you are comfortable sharing with and orgainise to meet up with them on a regular basis. Regular might mean once a fortnight or once a month by the way. When you do do a short bible study and get them to expalin the passage to you, pray with them, get them to ask you at that meeting and at other times how things arew going generally and how your prayer life and bible reading is going. Sometimes knowing I should do something isn't enough to get me to do it even if I will have to answer to God. But if I have to face up to my friend next week and know he will ask me how I'm going with it then I'm much more likely to stay on track. It is when I have followed this advice that I have experienced the most growth. Lastly I would just like to say what was said about our feelings often being our worst enemy is true but also don't ignore them completly. What I think they were more warning about is that some people rely on their feelings and get led astray. Feelings do need to be tested as they can easily be affected by something as simple as being tired.
 
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TheDag said:
There is some good advice here in continuing to read the bible and to pray which will help but sometimesthat is difficult. As one other said get someone to keep you accountable. There is a passage that says the older women should teach younger women and the same for guys. Find an older woman you are comfortable sharing with and orgainise to meet up with them on a regular basis. Regular might mean once a fortnight or once a month by the way. When you do do a short bible study and get them to expalin the passage to you, pray with them, get them to ask you at that meeting and at other times how things arew going generally and how your prayer life and bible reading is going. Sometimes knowing I should do something isn't enough to get me to do it even if I will have to answer to God. But if I have to face up to my friend next week and know he will ask me how I'm going with it then I'm much more likely to stay on track. It is when I have followed this advice that I have experienced the most growth. Lastly I would just like to say what was said about our feelings often being our worst enemy is true but also don't ignore them completly. What I think they were more warning about is that some people rely on their feelings and get led astray. Feelings do need to be tested as they can easily be affected by something as simple as being tired.
Hey, you could teach her a few things. The body submits to each other.
 
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Hey! Thanks for all your advice. I found a church where I really do feel loved! I'm a little shy about reaching out to people though with my problems. It's getting better. A couple a week ago I asked God that I wanted more joy and I wanted to smile more. Guess what happened on Sunday... I woke up and my mom had breakfast ready and I prayed and I didn't even think about this I just started praying and thanking God for everything I had in the house. For a long time I been wanting to have this or that... but I thanked God for what I had and told him that people don't have it as good as me. Sunday I couldn't stop the smile I had all day. Well, today was great too. I didn't smile as much, but I was happy. I went through a lot of things and stop reading and praying for months, but now I realize why everything went down hill because I lost faith and gave up on the things I really needed to do. Keep me in your prayers!

Love
~Kendra~
 
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