Trump's Mar-a-Lago trips cost more than trans soldiers' health care

[tulc]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-less-than-trumps-mar-a-lago-trips/515058001/

A report for the Pentagon last year found that transition-related care would cost between about $2.4 and $8.4 million per year — less than 0.14% of the military's medical budget.

That's roughly the cost of four of Trump's trips to Mar-A-Lago, GQ noted, even using a conservative estimate of $2 million per trip.

tulc(MAGA by playing golf and banning people from serving their country?)

 

[rjs330]

Trans surgery is not something the military should be paying for. It's elective surgery. They shouldn't be paying for ANY elective surgery.

 

[HighCherub]

Trump doesn't need the governments money.

And
The military isn't obligated to pay one penny toward elective surgery.

 

[tulc]

Trump doesn't need the governments money

Still, he doesn't seem all that eager to start paying for all that security and fuel and rental payments himself any time soon.

And
The military isn't obligated to pay one penny toward elective surgery.

or for Viagra for that matter, but they still do.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

 

[HighCherub]

Still, he doesn't seem all that eager to start paying for all that security and fuel and rental payments himself any time soon.


or for Viagra for that matter, but they still do.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

Insurance companies generally are not big on cosmetic surgery- why should the military be different? Because liberals want to make believe that girls are born in male bodies and demand it

Trump is doing what he does best- exposing nonsense. And bringing in the military- which is traditional and realistic- is a great way to do so.

 

[tulc]

Insurance companies generally are not big on cosmetic surgery- why should the military be different? Because liberals want to make believe that girls are born in male bodies and demand it

Not real clear on the difference between the military and insurance companies huh? Here's one difference: one of them does things to keep from spending money and one of them protects the Nation. I could list more if you'd like.

Trump is doing what he does best- exposing nonsense.

I think you may be using the wrong word there: you said "exposing nonsense" but I think more accurately it should be: "espousing nonsense".

And bringing in the military- which is traditional and realistic- is a great way to do so.

Maybe he should have done that, instead of lying about doing so.
tulc(is pretty sure the military takes a dim view of people lying about them, even if it's the President doing it)

 

[HighCherub]

I think you may be using the wrong word there: you said "exposing nonsense" but I think more accurately it should be: "espousing nonsense"

Trump has exposed nonsense from the beginning- the media was shown to be the decrepit thing it always has been and had liberals make complete fools of themselves.

He was elected President because people got tired of it, and yet you all still persist.

Trump is the Commander In Chief, and he's consulted the military- if you think he didn't than you're just being foolish, slaving over a media that has been shown to be illegitimate the day they abandoned ship on election night.

Find a new narrative.

 

[tulc]

Trump has exposed nonsense from the beginning-

I agree: his and his followers nonsense are exposed almost every day.

the media was shown to be the decrepit thing it always has been and had liberals make complete fools of themselves.

It's cute you believe that, it's not true of course, but still, it's cute you believe it.

He was elected President because people got tired of it, and yet you all still persist.

He got elected because empty State votes counted more then the States where most Americans live. That would be why almost 3,000,000 more Americans voted for Sec Clinton then voted for him.

Trump is the Commander In Chief, and he's consulted the military- if you think he didn't than you're just being foolish,

He consulted with them so much they had no idea about it until President Trump tweeted about it. Of course if President Trump understood how his job worked he'd have known he can't do this sort of thing with a wave of his magic tweet wand. But again, if he knew how to do his job he wouldn't be who his base supports.

slaving over a media that has been shown to be illegitimate the day they abandoned ship on election night.

uhmmm...ok...not sure what all that means, but, ok.

Find a new narrative.

No need to, this one is working just fine.
tulc(is a firm believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it")

 

[HighCherub]

I agree: his and his followers nonsense are exposed almost every day.

The media makes it up as they go- they did it throughout the entirety of the election process, and they keep doing it now.
Just a bunch of biased liberals slandering and twisting things up to make a good time for their fellow libs.

It's cute you believe that, it's not true of course, but still, it's cute you believe it.

It is true- Trump told it right to their faces and they didn't disagree, they just got mad.

He got elected because empty State votes counted more then the States where most Americans live. That would be why almost 3,000,000 more Americans voted for Sec Clinton then voted for him.

He won fair and square.

The fact that Hillary, who knows how it all works, got beat by Trump on it speaks for itself- she rigged the media in her favor and claimed support for every single forsaken specialty group in the country.

Still couldn't win.
And the Electoral college has it's purpose- a purpose which everyone has agreed with through American history up until the modern liberal didn't get their way after a decade of harassing others.

It's bad when a political party is trying to get people to come into this country to change it because they don't have the integrity to do it their selves- they are more concerned about prosecuting conservatives for their beliefs than respecting the lay of the country.

 

[tulc]

The media makes it up as they go- they did it throughout the entirety of the election process, and they keep doing it now.
Just a bunch of biased liberals slandering and twisting things up to make a good time for their fellow libs.

I know, reality does have a serious "liberal bias" so it does tend to favor liberals. Of course if reality is determined by what ever President Trump (or whichever spokesman he hasn't fired yet) says, then that whole "finding out the truth" is really easy. As they say: "and you shall know the tweet, and the tweet shall make you free...".

It is true- Trump told it right to their faces and they didn't disagree, they just got mad.

See? President Trump said is, and that settled it. Thanks for proving my point.

He won fair and square.

well, he won like the 2 of the last 3 Republican presidents won. Emprty State votes.

The fact that Hillary, who knows how it all works, got beat by Trump on it speaks for itself- she rigged the media in her favor and claimed support for every single forsaken specialty group in the country.

It's always fun when Republicans try and pretend that the majority of the Americans that voted are some how "specialty groups" and not what they are: American citizens voting for the candidate they wanted to be President more then President Trump. Almost 3,000,000 more actually.

Still couldn't win.
And the Electoral college has it's purpose- a purpose which everyone has agreed with through American history up until the modern liberal didn't get their way after a decade of harassing others.

hmmm...you know who REALLY hated the Electoral collage back in 2012? This guy:

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

you can read about it here:
Trump Used to Hate the Electoral College. Now, He Loves It.

It's bad when a political party is trying to get people to come into this country to change it because they don't have the integrity to do it their selves- they are more concerned about prosecuting conservatives for their beliefs than respecting the lay of the country.

You're going to have to make up your mind here: either you like having a small minority from the empty states decide who's going to be President or you're going to respect the "lay of the country" because as a supporter of President Trump? You can't have both. It's really that simple.
tulc(is sorry reality can't be what ever the President decides it is but that's also something his supporters can't have either)

 

[rjs330]

Still, he doesn't seem all that eager to start paying for all that security and fuel and rental payments himself any time soon.


or for Viagra for that matter, but they still do.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

Still not a reason to pay for elective surgery.

 

[rjs330]

I know, reality does have a serious "liberal bias" so it does tend to favor liberals. Of course if reality is determined by what ever President Trump (or whichever spokesman he hasn't fired yet) says, then that whole "finding out the truth" is really easy. As they say: "and you shall know the tweet, and the tweet shall make you free...".




See? President Trump said is, and that settled it. Thanks for proving my point.




well, he won like the 2 of the last 3 Republican presidents won. Emprty State votes.


It's always fun when Republicans try and pretend that the majority of the Americans that voted are some how "specialty groups" and not what they are: American citizens voting for the candidate they wanted to be President more then President Trump. Almost 3,000,000 more actually.


hmmm...you know who REALLY hated the Electoral collage back in 2012? This guy:

you can read about it here:
Trump Used to Hate the Electoral College. Now, He Loves It.


You're going to have to make up your mind here: either you like having a small minority from the empty states decide who's going to be President or you're going to respect the "lay of the country" because as a supporter of President Trump? You can't have both. It's really that simple.
tulc(is sorry reality can't be what ever the President decides it is but that's also something his supporters can't have either)

What I'm for is the Constitution. And the Constitution outlines the electoral college. It's worked for 200 years. No need to stop now, despite what Trump or you said or say.

Hey it sounds like you agreed with Trump in something. Well at least did until he changed his mind.

 

[tulc]

What I'm for is the Constitution. And the Constitution outlines the electoral college. It's worked for 200 years. No need to stop now, despite what Trump or you said or say.

I don't actually remember saying anything about keeping or getting rid of the Electoral collage. could you point out in my post where I did?

Hey it sounds like you agreed with Trump in something. Well at least did until he changed his mind.

Again, I'm not aware of of doing so, if you could point out where I did that I'd appreciate it.
tulc(is more of a "tweak what's not working, rather then re-inventing the wheel" sort of guy)

 

[HighCherub]

It's always fun when Republicans try and pretend that the majority of the Americans that voted are some how "specialty groups" and not what they are: American citizens voting for the candidate they wanted to be President more then President Trump. Almost 3,000,000 more actually.

You're going to have to make up your mind here: either you like having a small minority from the empty states decide who's going to be President or you're going to respect the "lay of the country" because as a supporter of President Trump? You can't have both. It's really that simple.
tulc(is sorry reality can't be what ever the President decides it is but that's also something his supporters can't have either)

One of the uses the Electoral College has is maintaining a long trending interest over reactionary or fanatical biases.
That is why the EC tends to win in favor of conservatives over liberals, because liberals are reactionary and fanatical.

The Founding Fathers simply just didn't build a government that is so friendly to your biases- look at the socialism taking the UK, and think about why we broke off from them in the first place

 

[rjs330]

I don't actually remember saying anything about keeping or getting rid of the Electoral collage. could you point out in my post where I did?


Again, I'm not aware of of doing so, if you could point out where I did that I'd appreciate it.
tulc(is more of a "tweak what's not working, rather then re-inventing the wheel" sort of guy)

Well you did say this.

He got elected because empty State votes counted more then the States where most Americans live. That would be why almost 3,000,000 more Americans voted for Sec Clinton then voted for him.

Which would lead one to believe you wish it was another way. Perhaps I was just reading to much into what you said. If you are satisfied with the way things are done now just say so and don't complain about the "empty states".

 

[EpiscipalMe]

One of the uses the Electoral College has is maintaining a long trending interest over reactionary or fanatical biases.
That is why the EC tends to win in favor of conservatives over liberals, because liberals are reactionary and fanatical.

The Founding Fathers simply just didn't build a government that is so friendly to your biases- look at the socialism taking the UK, and think about why we broke off from them in the first place

I would have responded to the other nonsensical posts of yours, but @tulc beat me to it. So, I'll stick with this one.

I think you need a better understanding of the electoral college. It exists to ensure that the needs of the rural areas are not overshadowed by the needs of the urban areas. It is about states' rights. I'm not sure what your statement means.

As for why we left the UK - the U.K. Was not socialist in the late 18th century. Heck, it isn't socialist now. Socialism had nothing to do with it.

Your statements suggest to me that you live entirely in the Fox/Limbaugh/Breitbart media sphere. You should get out more.

 

[HighCherub]

I think you need a better understanding of the electoral college. It exists to ensure that the needs of the rural areas are not overshadowed by the needs of the urban areas. It is about states' rights. I'm not sure what your statement means.

It's amazing to me that you can think that far, and yet reject the last piece of it

The best place to run a bogus ideology is in a dense area- think of it as a contagious thing- it's easy to convince a million morons bedding in a city; if anything, they'll convince each other.

That's certainly what happened in colleges and in inner suburbia.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

It's amazing to me that you can think that far, and yet reject the last piece of it

The best place to run a bogus ideology is in a dense area- think of it as a contagious thing- it's easy to convince a million morons bedding in a city; if anything, they'll convince each other.

That's certainly what happened in colleges and in inner suburbia.

It's almost like you have never been in a city.

 

[HighCherub]

It's almost like you have never been in a city.

I was born and raised in Richmond, VA.

I know the contagious dogmas that liberal ideology hums around.
I also know the irony of black people laughing at a bunch of white college students marching on so called racial injustices- even they think they are morons, so how do you propose I'm in the wrong when it's obviously your party living in a fantasy?

 

[EpiscipalMe]

I was born and raised in Richmond, VA.

I know the contagious dogmas that liberal ideology hums around.
I also know the irony of black people laughing at a bunch of white college students marching on so called racial injustices- even they think they are morons, so how do you propose I'm in the wrong when it's obviously your party living in a fantasy?

I have lived in all sorts of places - big city, small city, suburbs, small college town, big university town, liberal states, conservative states ...

Your assessment that liberal ideology spreads through cities like it is some sort of disease is way off. Urban and rural areas just have different needs from the federal government.

What you have, though, is a conservative's typical misunderstanding of American liberalism and the Democratic Party.