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Mankind can never fix problems by using the same methods that created them. History shows when taking sides we just run in circles. The humourous part is that people actually think that the elites even care what we think unless it is to their advantage. Why play their game? Its not helping you. Separate yourselves from them and join with each other in the ways it used to be pre-corporatism when opportunity and wealth was shared and not replaced by arguments over rights rather than living responsibly. Self has to take full responsibility for self. Trailing along after some imagined leaders accomplishes nothing.
 
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If anti-trump people really cared about corruption they wouldn't have defended Hunter Biden or pretended nothing happened. See what I mean?
No, I don't. As already pointed out, most of the claims against him were lies. Nobody on the right was screaming about him because he cheated on his taxes or because he smoked crack in a motel. If that had been the long and short of it, Dems would've all shrugged and moved on with their lives. No, the right was screaming about Hunter because they wanted to paint his dad as being in cahoots, enriching himself by indulging in conflicts of interest - which never happened.

We knew they were lying about what happened. What was less obvious until Trump took office for the second time was how much they were lying about caring about this sort of thing.
 
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No, I don't. As already pointed out, most of the claims against him were lies. Nobody on the right was screaming about him because he cheated on his taxes or because he smoked crack in a motel. If that had been the long and short of it, Dems would've all shrugged and moved on with their lives. No, the right was screaming about Hunter because they wanted to paint his dad as being in cahoots, enriching himself by indulging in conflicts of interest - which never happened.

We knew they were lying about what happened. What was less obvious until Trump took office for the second time was how much they were lying about caring about this sort of thing.
The stuff said against Trump are lies all lies. That's what they say isn't it? The same stuff you're saying?
 
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The stuff said against Trump are lies all lies. That's what they say isn't it? The same stuff you're saying?
Does the Trump family generate profit by leveraging the Trump name (indeed literally selling it as $Trump coin) for crypto products that the Trump Administration regulates (with a 'light touch'), thus indulging in conflicts of interest? Yes.

Trump family’s $2.3B crypto windfall matched by $2.25B in investor losses, Reuters finds

President Donald Trump’s family has turned crypto into one of the most lucrative businesses tied to its name, outpacing some of the companies that spent years building the digital asset market.

Between the post-election momentum of November 2024 and April 2026, ventures tied to the US President generated roughly $2.3 billion in pretax crypto income, Reuters reported.

Unlike Coinbase or BlackRock, the Trump Organization did not compete on trading latency, deep liquidity, or assets under management.

Instead, it leveraged an entirely different business model: an asymmetrical risk structure where the family deployed minimal personal capital, yet captured massive upside via token sales, founder allocations, and equity stakes.

However, the market dynamic has proven entirely zero-sum. Data indicates that the $2.3 billion captured by the president's family mirrors the $2.25 billion in estimated net losses absorbed by the retail and public-market investors who bought into these ventures.

Monetizing the Trump name​

The project’s economics gave the family a direct claim on token sale revenue. DT Marks DEFI LLC, a corporate entity linked to the family, secured a contractual right to 75% of token sale proceeds after expenses, generating an estimated $987 million for the family.

Meanwhile, a similar pattern emerged with the TRUMP meme coin. The token launched shortly before Trump’s second inauguration and became a speculative vehicle tied to the president’s political brand rather than an asset with clear underlying utility.

Blockchain analysis of exchange transfers suggested the project generated more than $1.2 billion in total revenue, including an estimated $616 million for the Trump family.

Like WLFI, retail buyers absorbed the losses as the token fell from highs of $75.35, leaving investors with more than $700 million in losses.

Ethics questions follow the money​

These market maneuvers are occurring against a complex regulatory backdrop. The current administration has actively championed digital assets, pushing stablecoin legislation and directing federal agencies to adopt a “light-touch” framework.

While this macro policy pivot has undeniably benefited the broader crypto sector, the direct financial windfall enjoyed by the First Family has triggered unprecedented ethical alarms.
 
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Does the Trump family generate profit by leveraging the Trump name (indeed literally selling it as $Trump coin) for crypto products that the Trump Administration regulates (with a 'light touch'), thus indulging in conflicts of interest? Yes.

Trump family’s $2.3B crypto windfall matched by $2.25B in investor losses, Reuters finds

President Donald Trump’s family has turned crypto into one of the most lucrative businesses tied to its name, outpacing some of the companies that spent years building the digital asset market.

Between the post-election momentum of November 2024 and April 2026, ventures tied to the US President generated roughly $2.3 billion in pretax crypto income, Reuters reported.

Unlike Coinbase or BlackRock, the Trump Organization did not compete on trading latency, deep liquidity, or assets under management.

Instead, it leveraged an entirely different business model: an asymmetrical risk structure where the family deployed minimal personal capital, yet captured massive upside via token sales, founder allocations, and equity stakes.

However, the market dynamic has proven entirely zero-sum. Data indicates that the $2.3 billion captured by the president's family mirrors the $2.25 billion in estimated net losses absorbed by the retail and public-market investors who bought into these ventures.

Monetizing the Trump name​

The project’s economics gave the family a direct claim on token sale revenue. DT Marks DEFI LLC, a corporate entity linked to the family, secured a contractual right to 75% of token sale proceeds after expenses, generating an estimated $987 million for the family.

Meanwhile, a similar pattern emerged with the TRUMP meme coin. The token launched shortly before Trump’s second inauguration and became a speculative vehicle tied to the president’s political brand rather than an asset with clear underlying utility.

Blockchain analysis of exchange transfers suggested the project generated more than $1.2 billion in total revenue, including an estimated $616 million for the Trump family.

Like WLFI, retail buyers absorbed the losses as the token fell from highs of $75.35, leaving investors with more than $700 million in losses.

Ethics questions follow the money​

These market maneuvers are occurring against a complex regulatory backdrop. The current administration has actively championed digital assets, pushing stablecoin legislation and directing federal agencies to adopt a “light-touch” framework.

While this macro policy pivot has undeniably benefited the broader crypto sector, the direct financial windfall enjoyed by the First Family has triggered unprecedented ethical alarms.
Looks way out in the open up to the fine details. As opposed to clandestine operations making someone inexplicably wealthy. Most everyone knows that Trump is a multibillion dollar industry.
 
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The stuff said against Trump are lies all lies. That's what they say isn't it? The same stuff you're saying?
Did the Biden administration ever award Burisma or any company owned or associated with Hunter Biden a government contract? What favoritism was granted to those who bought a painting of his?
 
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The stuff said against Trump are lies all lies. That's what they say isn't it? The same stuff you're saying?
Sure, the difference being that I wait until I see evidence before I start making charges like that. I don't do it base off of fantasies and wishful thinking.

Is your argument that we both care about corruption but it's only us Dems who live in the real world?
 
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