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Trump lying to justify his reasons to bomb Iran.

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Yes we have seen it on full display at most of these leftist protests and riots and killings recently.
I see it on both sides of the US political spectrum. Both parties radicalized.

And Trump with MAGA is another.
 
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As he sad "they dont know what I'm gonna do". Yup, thats him.
You mean unstable? Kind of something like maybe *cough* Iran *cough* or something?

Iran actually went to the table with Europe. And people wonder why Trump cannot get any real deals.
 
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Yes we have seen it on full display at most of these leftist protests and riots and killings recently.
What leftist killings??
 
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You mean unstable? Kind of something like maybe *cough* Iran *cough* or something?

Iran actually went to the table with Europe. And people wonder why Trump cannot get any real deals.
Trump is in a difficult place with this. Too many of his constituents want to make a religious war out of it,
 
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Lol, maybe he did. Or maybe hes hoping to get Iran to get to the table. As he sad "they dont know what I'm gonna do". Yup, thats him.
Yeah but by now they kind of do know what hes going to do, which is not follow through on his big bluster. You can only play the empty threat card so many times.
 
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You mean unstable? Kind of something like maybe *cough* Iran *cough* or something?

Iran actually went to the table with Europe. And people wonder why Trump cannot get any real deals.
Yeah and Europe did what Europe does. Capitulation.

Lol, no I dont mean unstable. I mean unpredictable. Trump moves where he sees opportunity. We see it all the time. He pushes and pushes then when rhe other side gives in a little he stops and backs off.

Your post just goes to show you really know nothing about the man and your dislike has jaded you to rhe point of blindness.
 
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Yeah and Europe did what Europe does. Capitulation.
What do you mean?

Lol, no I dont mean unstable. I mean unpredictable.
What is the difference here?

Your post just goes to show you really know nothing about the man and your dislike has jaded you to rhe point of blindness.
I am a regular reader of his profile. Are you? And I watched quite a lot of his press conferences and answers to journalists.
 
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Well the thing about the future is: we dont know what it is. But going by past performance - and weve accumulated a lot of data on that by now - they can predict he probably isnt going do big crazy moves despite all the bluster.
 
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Like I said, a few. The media would love to paint this as a HUGE divide and trouble for MAGA. But Trump is the leader of MAGA, not Tucker Carleson or anyone else. Those that voted for him are not monolithic. We all have our own minds and his voters, contrary to progressive beliefs, are not sycophants. I dont agree with him on everything hes done or the way he did it.

But Trunp is MAGA and the president. He sets policy and makes the decisions. He's not going to lose his support unless something terrible happens. I think he will lose support if we end up in a ground war because part of his campaign was about not doing that sort of thing.

But like I said, that's not going to happen.
No, not just a few. Most Republicans do not want US to intervene militarily. So to going back to your statement of this being "fear mongering progressives." That is demonstrably and lazily false.


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Ahh....the Trump infamous "in 2 weeks" statement on whether the US bombs Iran. Sound familiar?

Infrastructure "in 2 weeks"
Cheaper Healthcare "in 2 weeks"
Cheaper prescriptions "in 2 weeks"

Of course, none of those never happened. Here's hoping nothing happens in two weeks.
 
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Did Europe strike a deal with Iran?


You dont know the difference?

And you still dont understand what he is doing? Yes, your dislike has blinded you.
Eh, you have basically given up our conversation. Questions to questions is where it stops to be interesting.
 
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Well the thing about the future is: we dont know what it is. But going by past performance - and weve accumulated a lot of data on that by now - they can predict he probably isnt going do big crazy moves despite all the bluster.
Really? I think he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do. Hence all the lawsuits against him doing what he said he was going to do. Hence all the protests bring upset at him for doing what he said he was going to do.

And if Iran pays any attention to the left wing media, it is to be believed he will do criminal things to get done what he said he would do.

All this would indicate he might just do what he says.
 
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Really? I think he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do. Hence all the lawsuits against him doing what he said he was going to do. Hence all the protests bring upset at him for doing what he said he was going to do.

And if Iran pays any attention to the left wing media, it is to be believed he will do criminal things to get done what he said he would do.

All this would indicate he might just do what he says.
I could see him dropping a few of those big bombs.

But insisting on actual "unconditional surrender" - which is what we've been talking about - no way.
 
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Eh, you have basically given up our conversation. Questions to questions is where it stops to be interesting.
You asked silly questions. A lot of the left is hyper focused on Trump. Yet they still dont understand him. Being hyper focused on an individual you cant stand suddenly makes them even more terrible and less likely for you to get what they do. You cant dislike someone so much and be objective about them.

I dont hate the man. I also do not live him either. I can be objective. Because I certainly have my disagreements with him. I also agree with him on many things. So I understand what he is doing or trying to do. Whether it works out the way he wants remains to be seen.
 
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I could see him dropping a few of those big bombs.

But insisting on actual "unconditional surrender" - which is what we've been talking about - no way.
Well unconditional surrender is not up to him. Its up to Iran. And Trump.has shown himself to be willing to move based upon what others do.

Once again if you think unconditional surrender in the sense of Japan signing at the end of WWII, is the ONLY thing he will accept just shows you dont really understand how he operates.
 
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