Trump Calls for Termination of the Constitution

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Hmm. I read the tweet or whatever you call it on that platform

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump said in a Truth Social post.

“Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” he continued.

In this statements above? He wasn't calling for the termination of the constitution.

It also doesn't state anything about overturning it either.

This is his opinion over what he claims is 'massive fraud'.

Do these authors have comprehension issues? lol

Deputy White House Press Secretary Andrew Bates disagreed with this call to terminate Constitutional rules, saying, “Attacking the Constitution and all it stands for is anathema to soul of our nation, and should be universally condemned.”

It seems Andrew Bates does.

Instead of approaching these statements in misleading ways? They need to state how Trump's opinions are false.

It's okay to disagree with his opinions, but its rather stupid to take what he said and clearly misinterpret it.

This story was for click bait IMO.
 
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In this statements above? He wasn't calling for the termination of the constitution.

It also doesn't state anything about overturning it either.
Quite true. He's merely saying that if, in his completely unfounded and unsupported opinion, there has been massive vote fraud, then the Constitution can be (and, as the rest of his comment makes clear, should be) terminated. And since his unfounded and unsupported opinion is that in fact there has been massive vote fraud, then it's fine to terminate the Constitution. So no, he's not calling for the termination of the Constitution -- he's merely saying that is appropriate and desirable that the Constitution be suspended. Completely different, and perfectly normal behavior for an ex-president.
 
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Quite true. He's merely saying that if, in his completely unfounded and unsupported opinion, there has been massive vote fraud, then the Constitution can be (and, as the rest of his comment makes clear, should be) terminated. And since his unfounded and unsupported opinion is that in fact there has been massive vote fraud, then it's fine to terminate the Constitution. So no, he's not calling for the termination of the Constitution -- he's merely saying that is appropriate and desirable that the Constitution be suspended. Completely different, and perfectly normal behavior for an ex-president.
I agree with parts of what you said.

The he's merely saying that is appropriate and desirable that the constitution be suspended? lol that's reading into things.

He feels there was massive election fraud. That's his opinion, and it has yet to be proven. Now, if his statement was true that fraud was allowed? Then it would be a sense of termination of things. That's his opinion, and lack of comprehension of the part of media - and reading things into what was said when people clearly know his opinions on what happened? Still doesn't prove the points - or headline of the article.

I don't buy his opinions by the way. I think it must be a slow news day, and they need to up their bank account this month.
 
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Termination of articles in the Constitution doesn't necessarily imply termination of the Constitution itself. Articles in the Constitution can be terminated in a completely constitutional way, through constitutional amendments.

Of course, knowing Trump, he might have actually meant suspending or terminating the entire Constitution, but he may adjust his views on that when pressured by his lawyer buddies.

I'm willing to give Trump a tentative benefit of the doubt on this. Now, if he turns out to be serious about suspending or terminating the Constitution, then I'll have some serious problems with that. I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and I continue to take that oath very seriously.
 
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Hmm. I read the tweet or whatever you call it on that platform





In this statements above? He wasn't calling for the termination of the constitution.

It also doesn't state anything about overturning it either.

This is his opinion over what he claims is 'massive fraud'.

Do these authors have comprehension issues? lol



It seems Andrew Bates does.

Instead of approaching these statements in misleading ways? They need to state how Trump's opinions are false.

It's okay to disagree with his opinions, but its rather stupid to take what he said and clearly misinterpret it.

This story was for click bait IMO.
Major news media organizations are reporting Trump‘s words verbatim:

Top Republicans stay silent on Trump’s call to terminate the Constitution (NBC)​

Top Republicans stay silent on Trump’s call to terminate the Constitution

Trump Demands America Rip Up the Constitution, Make Him President (Rolling Stone)​

Trump Demands America Rip Up the Constitution, Make Him President

Trump's call for 'termination' of constitution condemned (BBC)​

Trump's call for 'termination' of constitution condemned

Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post (CNN)​

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html


Trump Stands in the Middle of Fifth Avenue and Shoots the Constitution (The Bulwark)​

Trump Stands in the Middle of Fifth Avenue and Shoots the Constitution
 
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Major news media organizations are reporting Trump‘s words verbatim:

Top Republicans stay silent on Trump’s call to terminate the Constitution (NBC)​

Top Republicans stay silent on Trump’s call to terminate the Constitution

Trump Demands America Rip Up the Constitution, Make Him President (Rolling Stone)​

Trump Demands America Rip Up the Constitution, Make Him President

Trump's call for 'termination' of constitution condemned (BBC)​

Trump's call for 'termination' of constitution condemned

Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post (CNN)​

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html


Trump Stands in the Middle of Fifth Avenue and Shoots the Constitution (The Bulwark)​

Trump Stands in the Middle of Fifth Avenue and Shoots the Constitution


Okay:

So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great “Founders” did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!

Above is verbatim. You really didn't need to link articles to copy and paste it.

He is asking - since he believes what he said VERBATIM that there was fraud involved in the last election. What do we do about it? Do we ignore the rules, regulations, articles, and parts of the constitution by allowing this administration to go forward? If what he claims was true? Yes, it would be a termination of things. Not sure how you would go forward personally.

His opinion above isn't calling for the termination of the constitution. That's a bunch of news sources looking for click bait. lol they could have addressed what he really meant, and made money too. I guess its more profitable to pretend you have comprehension issues, and that your audience can't read.

The Twitter files didn't prove what he claims, and that is what he was referring too (revelations). Reading extra into his odd statement doesn't show the media anymore intelligent than him by doing so. It just shows that cha ching in the bank account is more important than journalism.
 
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:) thanks but not even what he said. Why did you leave out what did say? Very very misleading. The right does this also where they say part of something leave out the rest. Its what some called fake news. Thanks for the link..
Follow the links. People all over the world reported Trump wants to terminate the Constitution. It is another one of his mistakes. Why did they report Trump wants to terminate the Constitution? This might make him very mad. Should I post more links?
 
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"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. "

Do any of you honestly believe this sentence is true? Regardless of whether he was saying it should or shouldn't be, do you agree he clearly said it could be?
 
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"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. "

Do any of you honestly believe this sentence is true? Regardless of whether he was saying it should or shouldn't be, do you agree he clearly said it could be?

It's a purely delusional statement, from beginning to end.
 
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Above is verbatim. You really didn't need to link articles to copy and paste it.

And he said "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." This is not correct, fraud or not. There is no mechanism for terminating rules found in the Constitution in case of fraud. There is no other way to interpret this that if there is fraud the rules can and should be cast aside. That is lawless.

He is asking - since he believes what he said VERBATIM that there was fraud involved in the last election.

And he is wrong.
What do we do about it?
He tried doing a lot of things that were within the legal framework. Those included dozens of lawsuits challenging votes in several states. The courts did not find these claims credible and the cases were thrown out. Several lawyers involved in those cases were sanctioned for presenting false information to the court.
Do we ignore the rules, regulations, articles, and parts of the constitution by allowing this administration to go forward?

The constitution and law provide for proceedure. If there were not enough valid votes for any individual to be elected there are options including contingent election and if no one was elected before the end of the term Trump was elected to in 2016 the VP-elect becomes president and if none exists, the office passes down the line of succession.

Congress counted the votes and certified the election of Joe Biden in the Jan. 6th session. He was legally elected.
If what he claims was true? Yes, it would be a termination of things. Not sure how you would go forward personally.
It isn't and the remedy called for is not constitutional.
His opinion above isn't calling for the termination of the constitution.
Only the part about how the president is selected.
That's a bunch of news sources looking for click bait. lol they could have addressed what he really meant, and made money too. I guess its more profitable to pretend you have comprehension issues, and that your audience can't read.
It is rather the opposite, far too few media outlets have paid attention to the true implications of what Trump said.
The Twitter files didn't prove what he claims, and that is what he was referring too (revelations). Reading extra into his odd statement doesn't show the media anymore intelligent than him by doing so. It just shows that cha ching in the bank account is more important than journalism.

Not sure what you are talking about.
 
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