Trump ad: We will protect statue in Brazil

[A_JAY]

President Trump's campaign recently issued a round of digital ads asking people to support his reelection bid as he stands up to those targeting statues, monuments, and memorials.

Trump campaign ad promises to protect statue of Jesus in Brazil

 

[tbstor]

Anti-iconoclasm has worked its way into our foreign policy.

 

[The Barbarian]

He can't even protect Americans from the pandemic, but he wants to protect Brazilian statues.

Someone explain to me again, why they don't believe he's slipping deeper into dementia.

 

[zippy2006]

He can't even protect Americans from the pandemic, but he wants to protect Brazilian statues.

Someone explain to me again, why they don't believe he's slipping deeper into dementia.

You seem to be under the impression that it is harder to protect a statue from a mob than to protect 300 million people from a very contagious disease.

 

[jgarden]

You seem to be under the impression that it is harder to protect a statue from a mob than to protect 300 million people from a very contagious disease.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 8:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–I do solemly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Are we incorrect in assuming that the President's constitutional duties include protecting the lives and general welfare of those 330 million America - not statues in Brazil!

Having repeatedly assured the American public that the authorities had everything under control and that there was nothing to fear concerning the pandemic, the White House has now effectively "thrown-in-the-towel" with "Dr Donald claiming that COVID-19 is just another one of life's inconveniences where 99% will recover!

This new messaging encourages Americans to return to their normal lives as if nothing had happened while accepting COVID-19 as just another fact of life - because as the new, revised version of reality would now have us believe, there was nothing that the President and his Administration could have done to prevent it!

 

[FenderTL5]

Perhaps the Trump campaign is anticipating that his portion of the electorate doesn't know the difference.

 

[The Barbarian]

You seem to be under the impression that it is harder to protect a statue from a mob than to protect 300 million people from a very contagious disease.

I'm under the impression that it was Trump's duty to protect Americans from the pandemic, but that it is not his duty to protect Brazilian statues.

And it was surely hard; leaders of other nations worked very hard at it, but they did succeed. Trump pretended it was "controlled" and would just "go away", and he failed horribly. Thirty-six thousand Americans are dead because he failed to take the pandemic seriously.

And yes, his bizarre behavior and strange statements suggest that he lacked the cognitive ability to comprehend the pandemic, and act effectively against it.

Notice that Biden, back in March, already had it figured out and laid out a plan to deal with it. And the same plan, implemented in other nations, succeeded. And Trump failed disastrously.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I'm under the impression that it was Trump's duty to protect Americans from the pandemic, but not his duty to protect Brazilian statues.

And it was surely hard; leaders of other nations worked very hard at it, and they succeeded. Trump pretended it was "controlled" and would just "go away", and he failed horribly. Thirty-six thousand Americans are dead because he failed to take the pandemic seriously.

Do you really think it is the President's Constitutional responsibility to protect Americans from diseases? How about dental decay or stubbed toes? If a president is capable of protecting us from Covid those should be a cinch.

 

[tulc]

Do you really think it is the President's Constitutional responsibility to protect Americans from diseases? How about dental decay or stubbed toes? If a president is capable of protecting us from Covid those should be a cinch.

You may be right, if there's any lessons to be learned about this President in the last couple of weeks it's that he's pretty much useless when it comes to...well almost anything except sucking up to dictators and inspecting bunkers and fretting about statues. Oh! And he really can't be topped when it comes to generating "11 year old mean girl nicknames!" for people.
tulc(is just sayn')

 

[The Barbarian]

Do you really think it is the President's Constitutional responsibility to protect Americans from diseases?

Yes.

Regulations and Laws That May Apply During a Pandemic

During a pandemic, certain legal authoritiesExternal, policies and regulations may apply and serve as the foundation for the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to respond.

Public Health Service Act

The Public Health Service (PHS) Act forms the foundation of the HHS’ legal authority for responding to public emergencies by authorizing the HHS Secretary to take key actions, such as lead all federal public health and medical response, declare a public health emergency, assist states in meeting health emergencies, maintain the Strategic National Stockpile, and control communicable diseases. The PHS Act was amended by the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act (PAHPA) of 2006External and the Pandemic and All-Hazards Reauthorization Act (PAHPRA) of 2013External.

Issuing Declarations

Under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance ActExternal, the President may declare an emergency at the request of the Governor of an affected State, or a Chief Executive of an affected Indian Tribe. The president can also declare an emergency without a Gubernatorial request if the primary responsibility for response rests with the Federal Government in order to provide expedited Federal assistance and support necessary.

The HHS Secretary may, under section 319 of the PHS ActExternal determine that a disease or disorder presents a public health emergency; or that a public health emergency, including significant outbreaks of infectious disease or bioterrorist attacks, otherwise exists. Following a section 319 declaration, the Secretary can take many actions during an influenza pandemic, including making grants; entering into contracts; and conducting and supporting investigations into the cause, treatment, or prevention of the disease or disorder, and waiving or modifying certain Medicare, Medicaid, Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act (HIPAA) requirements. These waivers or modifications are permitted under Section 1135 of the Social Security ActExternal to ensure sufficient health care items and services are available during a public health emergency.

Under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act)External of the PHS Act, the HHS Secretary is also authorized to issue a PREP Act declaration that provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims of loss caused, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from administration or use of countermeasures to diseases, threats and conditions determined by the Secretary to constitute a present, or credible risk of a future public health emergency to entities and individuals involved in the development, manufacture, testing, distribution, administration, and use of such countermeasures. A PREP Act declaration is different from and not dependent on other emergency declarations.
Regulations and Laws That May Apply During a Pandemic | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

How about dental decay or stubbed toes?

See above. How do you figure those would be a pandemic?

 

[jgarden]

Do you really think it is the President's Constitutional responsibility to protect Americans from diseases? How about dental decay or stubbed toes? If a president is capable of protecting us from Covid those should be a cinch.

Obviously this President thought it was part of his job description at one time - how else would you explain Trump's misguided decision to act as the Masters of Ceremony for the daily White House briefings by the Coronavirus Taskforce that were being televised nationally during prime time for weeks?

 

[grasping the after wind]

Yes.

Regulations and Laws That May Apply During a Pandemic

During a pandemic, certain legal authoritiesExternal, policies and regulations may apply and serve as the foundation for the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to respond.

Public Health Service Act

The Public Health Service (PHS) Act forms the foundation of the HHS’ legal authority for responding to public emergencies by authorizing the HHS Secretary to take key actions, such as lead all federal public health and medical response, declare a public health emergency, assist states in meeting health emergencies, maintain the Strategic National Stockpile, and control communicable diseases. The PHS Act was amended by the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act (PAHPA) of 2006External and the Pandemic and All-Hazards Reauthorization Act (PAHPRA) of 2013External.

Issuing Declarations

Under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance ActExternal, the President may declare an emergency at the request of the Governor of an affected State, or a Chief Executive of an affected Indian Tribe. The president can also declare an emergency without a Gubernatorial request if the primary responsibility for response rests with the Federal Government in order to provide expedited Federal assistance and support necessary.

The HHS Secretary may, under section 319 of the PHS ActExternal determine that a disease or disorder presents a public health emergency; or that a public health emergency, including significant outbreaks of infectious disease or bioterrorist attacks, otherwise exists. Following a section 319 declaration, the Secretary can take many actions during an influenza pandemic, including making grants; entering into contracts; and conducting and supporting investigations into the cause, treatment, or prevention of the disease or disorder, and waiving or modifying certain Medicare, Medicaid, Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act (HIPAA) requirements. These waivers or modifications are permitted under Section 1135 of the Social Security ActExternal to ensure sufficient health care items and services are available during a public health emergency.

Under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP Act)External of the PHS Act, the HHS Secretary is also authorized to issue a PREP Act declaration that provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims of loss caused, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from administration or use of countermeasures to diseases, threats and conditions determined by the Secretary to constitute a present, or credible risk of a future public health emergency to entities and individuals involved in the development, manufacture, testing, distribution, administration, and use of such countermeasures. A PREP Act declaration is different from and not dependent on other emergency declarations.
Regulations and Laws That May Apply During a Pandemic | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC



See above. How do you figure those would be a pandemic?

You seem to have mistaken a some idiotic statute written by a bunch of hubris intoxicated fools for the Constitution.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Obviously this President thought it was part of his job description at onetime - how else would you explain Trump's misguided decision to act as the Masters of Ceremony for the daily White House briefings by the Coronavirus Taskforce that were being televised nationally during prime time for weeks?

Trump always thinks he is more important than he actually is. So do all the other politicians and bureaucrats that suck up all the air and money in Washington. An unearned sense of self importance does not give one magic superpowers to protect people from diseases.

 

[jgarden]

Do you really think it is the President's Constitutional responsibility to protect Americans from diseases? How about dental decay or stubbed toes? If a president is capable of protecting us from Covid those should be a cinch.

There's nothing in the Constitutions that requires the President to concern himself with Confederate flags and statues - foreign or domestic!

As for "dental decay or stubbed toes," when the death rate of these 2 "dreaded afflictions" equals or surpasses 130,000 in just a matter of a few months, then your analogy will be taken seriously!

 

[grasping the after wind]

There/s nothing in the Constitutions that requires the President to concern himself with Confederate flags and statues - foreign or domestic!

As for "dental decay or stubbed toes," when the death rate of these 2 "dreaded afflictions" equals or surpasses 130,000 in just a matter of a few months, then your analogy will be taken seriously!

Jesus , as far as I know, was not a Confederate.

 

[jgarden]

Trump always thinks he is more important than he actually is. So do all the other politicians and bureaucrats that suck up all the air and money in Washington. An unearned sense of self importance does not give one magic superpowers to protect people from diseases.

Its the President, not the Governors, that received daily briefings from America's intelligence agencies for months and chose to ignore as the danger that COVID-19 posed to the nation!

The Trump Administration is responsible for a whole host of medical and healthcare agencies whose mandate is to protect the health and welfare of the American people!

It was the DHS that was responsible for providing the nation with a COVID-19 test and provided the Governors with specific guidelines for reopening their economies - guidelines that this President has chosen to ignore and the White House withheld and modified before they were released!

 

[zippy2006]

I'm under the impression that it was Trump's duty to protect Americans from the pandemic, but that it is not his duty to protect Brazilian statues.

And it was surely hard; leaders of other nations worked very hard at it, but they did succeed. Trump pretended it was "controlled" and would just "go away", and he failed horribly. Thirty-six thousand Americans are dead because he failed to take the pandemic seriously.

And yes, his bizarre behavior and strange statements suggest that he lacked the cognitive ability to comprehend the pandemic, and act effectively against it.

Notice that Biden, back in March, already had it figured out and laid out a plan to deal with it. And the same plan, implemented in other nations, succeeded. And Trump failed disastrously.

But nothing you say here intersects with my point, does it? It's curious that no one will bat an eye when Trump is criticized with completely invalid arguments. He is certainly a special guy.

(Even apart from the logical error of your first post, it is psychologically obvious why folks seek success in smaller projects when they have failed in larger ones.)

 

[The Barbarian]

But nothing you say here intersects with my point, does it?

Like being more concerned about a Brazilian statue than the health of Americans?

It's curious that no one will bat an eye when Trump is criticized with completely invalid arguments.

A lot of people get pretty upset when he's criticized with completely valid arguments.

He is certainly a special guy.

So was his pal Jeffrey Epstein. For some of the same reasons.

Even apart from the logical error of your first post, it is psychologically obvious why some people are excusing Trump for bungling the pandemic which caused over 36,000 deaths.

 

[The Barbarian]

Its the President, not the Governors, that received daily briefings from America's intelligence agencies for months and chose to ignore as the danger that COVID-19 posed to the nation!

The Trump Administration is responsible for a whole host of medical and healthcare agencies whose mandate is to protect the health and welfare of the American people!

It was the DHS that was responsible for providing the nation with a COVID-19 test and provided the Governors with specific guidelines for reopening their economies - guidelines that this President has chosen to ignore and the White House withheld and modified before they were released!

Yes, some states were lucky enough to have competent governors who pick up for Trump when he bungled the response to COVID-19. Not all of them, though.

 

[jgarden]

But nothing you say here intersects with my point, does it? It's curious that no one will bat an eye when Trump is criticized with completely invalid arguments. He is certainly a special guy.

(Even apart from the logical error of your first post, it is psychologically obvious why folks seek success in smaller projects when they have failed in larger ones.)

Given that the United States Department of Health and Human Services has 79,540 employees (2015) and an annual budget of $1.286 trillion (2020), what do you assume they are doing with all that manpower and money if as part of the Trump Administration they have no role in protecting the health of Americans?