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Why isn't there an icon we can select of someone throwing up?
 
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It's not just crisis, it's apostasy.
 
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Whether true or not, he’s a real piece of work.
 
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It's not just crisis, it's apostasy.
Nah, just a lot of ill-informed Christians. I'm an apostate and I know the writing of Matthew. (Still haven't read the whole NT though.)
 
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Do Presbyterian believe that we are sinful and need to ask God forgiveness?
 
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To each his own but I would be so embarrassed to vote for this guy. I'd feel so dirty responding to this message by giving him money. This is disgusting emotional manipulaton and I feel sorry for folks who fall for it.

Him Or his underlings who try to profit off this
 
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That one was my signature for a while.
 
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Do Presbyterian believe that we are sinful and need to ask God forgiveness?
Presbyterians believe that when a person first places their faith in Jesus, they are completely and permanently forgiven for all their sins—past, present, and future.
 
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Presbyterians believe that when a person first places their faith in Jesus, they are completely and permanently forgiven for all their sins—past, present, and future.
You got a source for that cause that doesn't seem correct.

Cause it doesnt make sense to me if they continue to confess their sins if their sins were already forgiven.
 
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You got a source for that cause that doesn't seem correct.

Cause it doesnt make sense to me if they continue to confess their sins if their sins were already forgiven.
The justification of a sinner is an all-comprehending act of God.
All the sins of a believer, past, present, and future, are pardoned when he is justified.


 
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Thank you foe that. I appreciate that.

The minister does say...
Why, then, do I still ask for forgiveness. Answer: because I continue to sin!
And from the westminster confession...


So not rnecessarily cut and dried
 
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Thank you foe that. I appreciate that.

The minister does say...

And from the westminster confession...

So not rnecessarily cut and dried
If you ask some OSAS Christians that question they might tell you no, based on their belief / undestranding of that doctrine. And some will say asking for forgiveness after you've been forgiven is showing a lack of faith and even an insult to God. (Disclaimer: That's not my point of view and I'm not advocating it).
 
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Yes, they're called biblically illiterate Christians.

"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. But if we confess our sins, then He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." - 1 John 1:8-9

-CryptoLutheran
 
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They'll say that's about the first time you ask for forgiveness.
 
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And the 12 string on the "it really makes me wonder" section!
Oh, I've got that down ok. Changed the strings on my 12 last week. Took about an hour .Then the rest of the afternoon tuning it!

Apologies to all for the musical diversion...
 
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