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However, there are reasons to argue that there was no Christianity before the time of Constantine.
Tell me who was in the possession of the alleged letter of Pliny the Younger, hmm??
A monastery?
Excuse me, but what makes it a conspiracy theory to point oyo that only the Church possessed the documents that are used to suggest the older dating of Christianity?? It's a fact. It's also a fact that forgeries were made, such as the Pseudo-Isidoran Decritals.
What you forget is that dating scraps has problems. First, it isn't claimed that the fragment is from thr first century for certain. Second, it's necessary to test the parchment because in ancient times they reused parchment. Third, because the ink itself needs testing. Therefore, making absolute claims about such tiny fragments is practically useless.
There is no mystery that tiny scraps can't be examined properly. The scholars know this. They just accept unprovable speculation as the "gospel truth."
This has also been a source of controversy about fragments found in Yemen claimed to be the earliest copies of the Quran.
You are really generalizing and ignoringmy point. It's not my fault if the unnamed experts make assumptions based on insufficient data according to church dogma.
I find it interesting that Protestants never understood that the concept of the Trinity as a doctrine had no basis in the New Testament at all and did not reject it. Even Catholicism admit it isn't sourced in the NT. Maybe on this point the Oneness groups and Jehovah's Witnesses have a point.
This would also make sense if the whole religion only emerged under the new Constantinian regime of the 4th century, and therefore Christians used it if Christianity did not exist before then.
"The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - The New Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. XIV, p. 299, (1967)
Can't speak for the ignorance of mankind but YHWH clearly knew the Trinity before the foundations of the earth.I find it interesting that Protestants never understood that the concept of the Trinity as a doctrine had no basis in the New Testament at all and did not reject it. Even Catholicism admit it isn't sourced in the NT. Maybe on this point the Oneness groups and Jehovah's Witnesses have a point.
This would also make sense if the whole religion only emerged under the new Constantinian regime of the 4th century, and therefore Christians used it if Christianity did not exist before then.
"The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - The New Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. XIV, p. 299, (1967)
Any discussion or debate on the Trinity starts and ends with first the Deity of Jesus Christ.The word itself is unbiblical, but one can draw inferences from certain passages in the Epistles and Gospel of John to argue for it.
Because not only is the Trinity creedal but also Biblical.The question remains why none of the Protestant scholars ever questioned it.
No actually it was in 33 AD in an upper room during Pentecost.Of course, if Christianity emerged only in the 4th century
Which Protestant churches deny the Trinity?Different Protestants view the Trinity differently. Which one of us are you referring to?
I think you will find the answer here: Nontrinitarianism - WikipediaWhich Protestant churches deny the Trinity?
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