Trinitarianism: What Non-Trinitarians Believe

[Gibs]

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Jesus is God come as a Man.

Jesus’ Spirit IS the Holy Spirit, which is God.
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[FONT=&quot]Jesus existed before coming to earth. God created Himself a body, the glorified body of Jesus Christ. Jesus gave up his body and came to earth in the flesh. When Jesus ascended into heaven, he received his glorified body back, after being made like his brothers, after being made perfect through what he suffered.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Jesus is the head over every power and authority.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The Father loves the Son and has placed EVERYTHING in his hands see John 3:35.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Colossians 2:10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Jesus will reign over the house of Jacob forever. See Luke 1:33, and Revelation 11:15.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Now, read 1 Corinthians 15:25.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]In 1 Corinthians 15:25, it says Jesus must REIGN UNTIL HE has put all his enemies under his feet.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]In 1 Corinthians 15:24, it says Jesus will hand the kingdom to God the Father, after he [Jesus] has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Since the scriptures also say JESUS' KINGDOM WILL HAVE NO END, and the scripture also says Jesus will reign UNTIL...that shows us Jesus was God before coming to earth, he was God ALWAYS while on earth, and he is God in heaven now.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Luke 1:33 and he will reign over Jacob's descendants forever; his kingdom will never end."[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Jesus is, and was always God, God with a body, a body before coming to earth, a human body while on earth, and back to his Spiritual body after ascending to heaven.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]We will be as Jesus is in his Spiritual resurrected body. There will be no[/FONT]
need for any Man to be over us in that time...for we will be as Jesus is.

You made that up; show which scripture says that.

Dear This, I posted it above and highlighted it, but here it is again,

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[THIS]

Gibs has had the truth explained to him patiently and gently for quite some time now.

He shows that he does not even take the time to pray and study harder what it is that is said to him.

He needs to humble himself. He needs to pray more, and study harder.

With the measure he uses it will be measured to him and more.

 

[THIS]

Dear This, I posted it above and highlighted it, but here it is again,

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

That scripture does not say what you claim it does.

Stop misleading the readers.

 

[Gibs]

Dear Sister This,

You or no one can have Jesus Christ born of Mary until at least the conception.

Re 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

 

[THIS]

Dear Sister This,

You or no one can have Jesus Christ born of Mary until at least the conception.

Re 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Tell me, how does Jesus' spirit, the man spirit, which you claim Jesus has---how does that spirit live inside ALL who believe in him?

What kind of spirit of a man is that? None, no spirit of a man can do that. However, the Spirit of God can do that. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Jesus' Spirit is that Spirit.

 

[Gibs]

That scripture does not say what you claim it does.

Stop misleading the readers.

Oh, yes it sure does, and now will give you the several verses and please don't be obstinate and you will see it.

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Yes as God don't need of Himself a redeemer no more! Then the utter end of sin and rebellion will be no more!

Na 1:9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.

 

[THIS]

Dear This, I posted it above and highlighted it, but here it is again,

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

You prove you that you make up things about God's Word that is not true.

You said 1 Corinthians 15:28 says, "God the Father then will no longer be extended in Jesus!"

Repent for speaking untruths.

 

[Gibs]

Tell me, how does Jesus' spirit, the man spirit, which you claim Jesus has---how does that spirit live inside ALL who believe in him?

What kind of spirit of a man is that? None, no spirit of a man can do that. However, the Spirit of God can do that. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Jesus' Spirit is that Spirit.

Mercy sakes, I have told you and told you, it is the Spirit of the Father that dwells in Him, Christ in you is the Father in you as at the incarnation they are as one.

 

[THIS]

Mercy sakes, I have told you and told you, it is the Spirit of the Father that dwells in Him, Christ in you is the Father in you as at the incarnation they are as one.

Jesus SAYS that he HIMSELF will dwell in those saved!

Tell me, how does Jesus HIMSELF dwell in those saved if his spirit is the spirit of a man.

 

[Gibs]

You prove you that you make up things about God's Word that is not true.

You said 1 Corinthians 15:28 says, "God the Father then will no longer be extended in Jesus!"

Repent for speaking untruths.

Are you being dense to me on purpose? The words used were not them exact ones but surely they tell you the same!

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[THIS]

Mercy sakes, I have told you and told you, it is the Spirit of the Father that dwells in Him, Christ in you is the Father in you as at the incarnation they are as one.

God the Father and Jesus are NOT AS one---they are One!

 

[2ducklow]

incarnation is not in the bible.

 

[THIS]

Are you being dense to me on purpose?

You are the dense one.

You say Jesus pretends to be in us himself by claiming to believe as the Father believes.

You deny the truth.

Tell me, how does the spirit of a man live in so many?

I am waiting for you to explain that.

 

[THIS]

Gib wants us to believe that Jesus is not God, and that Jesus lives inside us because God lived in Jesus.

That would mean all who are saved live in Gib.

No Gib, you are wrong. If you have God living inside you, and since I have God living inside me---that does not mean we are living inside each other.

 

[Gibs]

incarnation is not in the bible.

Yes it is a word used of men to express the union made of LORD of Hosts and Jesus Christ. I had assumed all are familiar with the word and meaning.

 

[Gibs]

Gib wants us to believe that Jesus is not God, and that Jesus lives inside us because God lived in Jesus.

That would mean all who are saved live in Gib.

No Gib, you are wrong. If you have God living inside you, and since I have God living inside me---that does not mean we are living inside each other.

No it does not! There is no way that can be but of Christ made one with the Father it is, note this verse,

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Christ comes in you by the fathers Spirit and not of the spirit of a man.

Remember, there is one Spirit etc.

 

[THIS]

No it does not! There is no way that can be but of Christ made one with the Father it is, note this verse,

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Christ comes in you by the fathers Spirit and not of the spirit of a man.

Remember, there is one Spirit etc.

There is ONE SPIRIT! That is HOW WE KNOW JESUS IS GOD!

Because Jesus HIMSELF will live in us!

John 17:26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them."

 

[Gibs]

There is ONE SPIRIT! That is HOW WE KNOW JESUS IS GOD!

Because Jesus HIMSELF will live in us!

John 17:26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them."

Jesus has a man spirit and also since the union of Yahweh of Hosts there dwells in Him in ALL the fullness the Spirit of God.

God is His Father and His God because He is the man child born of Mary!

Jesus has clearly and plainly told you God is His Father and his God so it has to be that it is the Father that dwells in Him!

Please reason these things out.

I'm spending too much time fussing with you as we are getting nowhere.

I can see you are determined as so am I so it may as well be dropped, this thread has become a troll and you I think can see that~

 

[2ducklow]

The indisputable facts are these. Christians know God and Jesus through having the Holy spirit, God and Jesus know us through the Holy Spirit. I think most everyone can agree on that.

 

[2ducklow]

Yes it is a word used of men to express the union made of LORD of Hosts and Jesus Christ. I had assumed all are familiar with the word and meaning.

. My understanding is that the incarnation refers to the word becoming flesh. I guess my point was that people throw the word incarnation around as if it were a biblical fact. It isn't, it is an interpretation of john 1.14, wherein it says "the word became flesh".