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Pointing at fixed body parts and shouting "TRANSITIONAL" doesn't make it so.

What is it transitioning from? What is it transitioning to? How do you even know it is transitioning? By pointing at fixed body parts?

How naive do you think we are?

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To have a theory, one must have evidence and data.
Again and it seems like I have said this 100 times now. Creationism has ALL THE SAME evidence that Evolution has. Creationism just better explains the evidence. The evidence just does not support evolutionists claims.
 
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The evidence better supports Creationism. But you can not teach Creationism in the public school system. So that leaves us with Evolution as the best theory available to teach the material to the students.

Spreading lies is not a Christian principle last time I check. If you want to say that the Bible or your faith support creationism I am 100% ok with that, but physical evidence certainly does not do so.
 
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Again and it seems like I have said this 100 times now. Creationism has ALL THE SAME evidence that Evolution has. Creationism just better explains the evidence. The evidence just does not support evolutionists claims.

Again it seems like I have said this 100 times now. There is ZERO EVIDENCE for creationism.
 
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physical evidence certainly does not do so.
Show me anything, anywhere that the physical evidence does NOT support the Bible. It is time for you to put up some evidence to back up your claims. There is nothing, absolutely NOTHING in all of science that does NOT support the Bible.
 
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Show me anything, anywhere that the physical evidence does NOT support the Bible. It is time for you to put up some evidence to back up your claims. There is nothing, absolutely NOTHING in all of science that does NOT support the Bible.

Hmmm, let me think, 7 days creation, 6,000 years old earth, global flood, opening of the Red Sea, Jonah in the stomach of a whale, a talking snake, a talking donkey, resurrecting the dead, any of the miracles of Jesus, should I keep going? It is time for you to put up some evidence to back up your claims. Care to provide physical evidence for any of these?
 
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Again and it seems like I have said this 100 times now. Creationism has ALL THE SAME evidence that Evolution has. Creationism just better explains the evidence. The evidence just does not support evolutionists claims.
For example? What evidence suggests that evolution is false and creationism is right?

Show me anything, anywhere that the physical evidence does NOT support the Bible. It is time for you to put up some evidence to back up your claims. There is nothing, absolutely NOTHING in all of science that does NOT support the Bible.
According to the bible, The universe is ten thousand years old, at best.

Tree rings show it is 11000 years old, if you compare dead and living trees.
Radiocarbodating dates back several million years.
DNA decay dates back around several hundred thousand to a million years.
The fact that we can see cosmic structures that are several billion light years away shows that the universe is several billion years old, as the light speed is constant.

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Corrected some numbers.
 
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Exactly, it has never been observed. Look at fruit flies because they have very short generations. You start out with a fruit fly, you end up with a fruit fly.
This is factually incorrect.
What is factually incorrect? Has someone made fruit flies evolve into non-fruit-flies? Curious minds want to know.
 
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Oh, so is that who he is? Why do they do that? And here I am replying to the same questions thinking it is a different person...

The style is the same, and "R U" is a dead giveaway.
 
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Oh, so is that who he is? Why do they do that? And here I am replying to the same questions thinking it is a different person...
Because that way they get to ask the same silly PRATTs, only they get to act as if they're somehow deep and insightful all over again. Because you look a bit silly the 40th time you ask "if humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys", but if you change your name, you get to ignore the explaination all over again!
 
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Pointing at fixed body parts and shouting "TRANSITIONAL" doesn't make it so.

Demonstrating that a species has a mixture of characteristics from two divergent taxa does make it so. That is what a transitional is.

What is it transitioning from? What is it transitioning to? How do you even know it is transitioning? By pointing at fixed body parts?

Transitionals are determined independently of any evolutionary assumptions. You use the features in that species to determine if it is transitional, and which taxa it is transitional between.

The theory of evolution predicts the transitionals you should see and which you should not see. It is entirely possible for a transitional to DISPROVE evolution. If we found a mammal-bird transitional this would falsify evolution. The reason that evolution is so widely accepted amongst biologists is that the theory of evolution was able to accurately predict which transitionals we would find when we started digging into the fossil record.

Creationism, on the other hand, makes absolutely no predictions as to the mixture of characteristics we should find in species. None whatsoever. It is useless for describing the distribution of characteristics amongst species. There is no mixture of characteristics that could potentially falsify creationism.

How naive do you think we are?

Given the fact that you accept a bronze age creation myth as literal truth even though all of the evidence contradicts it, I would say that you are quite naive.
 
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How naive do you think we are?

Naive enough to think that a creation myth written by Bronze-Iron Age men who knew nothing about where man or the earth came from is an historical account direct from an omnipotent god. :wave:
 
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Again and it seems like I have said this 100 times now.
And I get rather tired of reading the same ridiculous claims repeated over and over here.


Creationism has ALL THE SAME evidence that Evolution has. Creationism just better explains the evidence.
Creationism doesn't have any evidence. Just your interpretation of scripture. The fact we are here isn't evidence for creationism, nor is everything evidence for creationism, no matter what it is. Tell me what evidence could potentially not support creationism?



The evidence just does not support evolutionists claims.
This is a blatant falsehood. All the physical evidence infers common descent. Embryology, biochemistry, genetics, anatomy, the fossil record, all support common ancestry.
 
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