Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathroom

[A_Thinker]

City Park bathrooms are not really always safe.
M-Bob

I agree ... but not, particularly, because of transgenders ...

 

[JoeP222w]

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[chilehed]

Statistically, a public restroom is likely much safer than one's
own home though.

Why do you think that?.

 

[A_Thinker]

It was just a matter of time.

And this person is a male not a female, no matter how much he mutilates his sexual organs.

The title is misleading ... this crime was not committed in a PUBLIC bathroom (i.e. the ones we're all concerned about), but rather by a family friend in the girl's own home ....

 

[A_Thinker]

SkyWriting said: Statistically, a public restroom is likely much safer than one's
own home though.

chilehed said: Why do you think that?.

93% of child molestations are committed by persons known to the child (i.e. not strangers in public bathrooms) ....

 

[Zoii]

I am glad he "she" was caught and Im glad he is going to gaol for a long long time
I should point out that its not hard to google boys confronted by men in the male toilets. The issue is really allowing children unsupervised in public toilets unfortunately

My heart aches for the poor girl

 

[Zoii]

93% of child molestations are committed by persons known to the child (i.e. not strangers in public bathrooms) ....

yea thats true and usually by a person the child trusts

 

[fide]

If a law needs to be passed over this, then the culture is already beyond what any law can fix. We're talking about something which, when Western societies were healthy, was simply not done. If a man did get into the habit of going into women's restrooms, it was dealt with outside the law.

This is why I don't fault Trump for not weighing in on the matter. I think it was wiser not to.

Laws don't "fix" anything. Criminals break laws - that's why they're called "criminals." Laws can lessen then number of crimes, by punishments and by societal rejection. Legalizing what should be criminal, however, is insane.

 

[Zoii]

It was just a matter of time.

And this person is a male not a female, no matter how much he mutilates his sexual organs.

So as much as everyone puts their head in the sand on this issue, gender is not so clear cut. Whether you accept it or not genders include all kinds of variations eg XXY - so...where do you want them to urinate. And once you (or better still the law) decides where that should be - accept it n then just punish people who break laws. That includes Manly men hiding out in toilets assaulting boys who come into toilets as well....which btw is the 95% not the 0.1 percent we are focusing on here
The good thing is that this troglodite was caught n severely punished. Id rather not waste oxygen thinking about him/"her" and instead focus on the poor victim who will suffer from it into her future.

 

[Hank77]

Snopes already has a webpage up on this.

FACT CHECK: Was a Transgender Woman Convicted for Raping a Young Girl in a Bathroom?

As was already mentioned, the crime occurred in a private bathroom in the girl's home, and was perpetrated by a family friend.

Snopes also cites the following ...

"The sad fact is children are far more likely to be abused or raped by someone than they know than by a stranger. The Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network estimates that in 93 percent of sexual abuse cases reported to law enforcement, the victim knows their abuser."

If you really want to put a dent in the incidence of child molestation, ... bathroom laws are barking up the wrong tree ...

I don't want to see laws that make it easier for strangers to abuse children. Right now that isn't as easy for a stranger to do as someone familiar to them. Why give the stranger a greater opportunity than they have now?

 

[Hank77]

The title is misleading ... this crime was not committed in a PUBLIC bathroom (i.e. the ones we're all concerned about), but rather by a family friend in the girl's own home ....

It does not say in the girl's own home, it could have been in the guy's home or even another friend's home.

 

[A_Thinker]

Laws don't "fix" anything. Criminals break laws - that's why they're called "criminals." Laws can lessen then number of crimes, by punishments and by societal rejection. Legalizing what should be criminal, however, is insane.

I think that both sides should have left this alone ...

 

[A_Thinker]

It does not say in the girl's own home, it could have been in the guy's home or even another friend's home.

Snopes says that it was in the girl's home ...

"The person found guilty of this crime, Michelle (referred to as “Miguel” in local news reports) Martinez, was not a stranger in a public restroom, but rather a family friend who allegedly raped the 10-year-old victim in a bathroom in the victim’s home."

 

[2Timothy2:15]

The Left got this bathroom thing started.

Their goal is for anyone to use whatever bathroom they believe to be right for them. Problem is, many of them don't know right from wrong.

My wife is a teacher in California and hopes that she reaches retirement ago before this bathroom issue comes to her school -- already talk.

M-Bob

Is your wife standing up against it at her school?

 

[chilehed]

93% of child molestations are committed by persons known to the child (i.e. not strangers in public bathrooms) ....

I see - you intended your comment to be confined to a very small subset of all assaults that take place in bathrooms. That wan't obvious to me.

 

[ConvictionofGod]

70 years isn't enough. Isn't this EXACTLY what they told us not to be worried about happening? These people are still guys, with guy hormones, still attracted to girls and now others want the right to use women's bathrooms? lol

Its your chromosomes that decide your gender, and God made chromosomes, so therefore God chosen your gender--- you can do whatever screwed up crap you want to do to your body, but your gender was God given at birth, trying to change it is very wrong

 

[elliott95]

All the bathrooms in my house are for whatever sex happens to be visiting. I've never seen young boys without a parent in public restrooms.

Presumably your private bathrooms are not for everybody walking past your house on the street though, are they?

 

[disciple1]

A transgender Wyoming woman was convicted Wednesday of sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl inside a bathroom.

Michelle Martinez, who was known as Miguel Martinez before identifying as female, was found guilty of first-degree and second-degree sexual abuse of a minor and could face up to 70 years in prison.

Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathroom

I'm fine if a man wants to dress like a women, but I think they should use the men's room, what's next men dressed as women using the women's shower room.

 

[elliott95]

I'm fine if a man wants to dress like a women, but I think they should use the men's room, what's next men dressed as women using the women's shower room.

No, what is next is men dressed as men using the women's shower. The law as it stands in Canada is that if anyone feels like they are a woman on any given day, then it is hate speech to insist that they are not, regardless of how they are dressed, or regardless of the appearance of their secondary sex characteristics.

The laws on separate bathrooms were put in place to protect the modesty of women, and understood well enough the role that testosterone plays in making one sex generally more aggressive than the other. Now the laws serves to a different post-modernist purposes that don't really have to make sense. Sense and logic to post-modernists are just the ways that the patriarchy impose their power on us, according to the new post-modern order that where no bathroom is too small to become a scene of political battle.

 

[tansy]

All the bathrooms in my house are for whatever sex happens to be visiting. I've never seen young boys without a parent in public restrooms.

Depends how old the child is...when my children were young I would take them in the womens' toilets with me, but by the time they were probably 8 or 9 they would go in the appropriate wcs by themselves.
I wonder if one solution to this might be to have separate facilities for men and women, with perhaps unisex ones for whoever else....but maybe that could cause problems in itself.