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[Subduction Zone]

Jesus is mentioned in every one of those religions. No one argues Jesus existed. However only one religion confesses Jesus as Christ.

No, not really. Where do Hinduism and Buddhism mention Jesus? Where does Judaism do so?

I am sure that other religions have just as silly of a phrase as you used to end your post.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I want it all, and i want it NOW!

I liked that song, did you?

Don't remember it, but it does sound like you.

 

[LostMarbels]

No, not really. Where do Hinduism and Buddhism mention Jesus? Where does Judaism do so?

I am sure that other religions have just as silly of a phrase as you used to end your post.

As an atheist, can you prove Jesus was not a historical figure that actualy lived?

 

[Rubricnigel]

That is what I said, that change came from within. That went against biblical teaching. I love the old "New Covenant" fall back.

And you must know that there are countless errors in the Bible. I thought that you studied the book.

You keep denying the bible.

And i keep saying WRONG!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your sin, is the problem. You are a human, you've let your sin define you. If you repented, asked for forgiveness and worked hard you would have the blessing of Jesus. And it the end you can walk in his light.

if you are saying you are Gay, there is time. Until the end, you can change. But we humans dont know when that time is.
Read the NT, pray, talk to a priest or someone who can help. Your immortal soul is at stake, ill pray for you, but you must take the first step.

Its never too late, till its too late!

Please, I could give you silly things to do to become a Muslim. That is not evidence for anything.

I am not gay, but if I was I would know that there was nothing to apologize for. People tend to be born gay. They don't choose it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As an atheist, can you prove Jesus was not a historical figure that actualy lived?

Why would I need to? Jesus probably was a historical figure. The burden of proof is upon you to prove not only that he existed, and the evidence for that is rather weak but it is there, but you would need to prove that he rose from the dead. And the evidence for that is practically nonexistent.

Mohammad was almost certainly a historical person. By your standards it appears that you should be a Muslim.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You keep denying the bible.

And i keep saying WRONG!

Nope, I don't "deny" the Bible. I only mention its obvious errors. For example it does not take much more than a middle school level of science literacy to know that there never was a worldwide flood.

 

[Rubricnigel]

Please, I could give you silly things to do to become a Muslim. That is not evidence for anything.

I am not gay, but if I was I would know that there was nothing to apologize for. People tend to be born gay. They don't choose it.

Gay is a life choice.

Phone dying, must recharge.
May God bless you and show you the true light of his grace.
I'll pray for you all, you do the same ok. Promise!

 

[Skreeper]

Your sin, is the problem. You are a human, you've let your sin define you. If you repented, asked for forgiveness and worked hard you would have the blessing of Jesus. And it the end you can walk in his light.

if you are saying you are Gay, there is time. Until the end, you can change. But we humans dont know when that time is.
Read the NT, pray, talk to a priest or someone who can help. Your immortal soul is at stake, ill pray for you, but you must take the first step.

Its never too late, till its too late!

I am not interested in buying your snake oil.

I don't believe there is a god, or a immortal soul or that my sexual orientation is immoral.

If you have an argument then make it secular if you want to make laws. Religious arguments only have a place in theocracies.

"Because God says its icky" isn't gonna convince me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Gay is a life choice.

Phone dying, must recharge.
May God bless you and show you the true light of his grace.
I'll pray for you all, you do the same ok. Promise!

Prove it. You will find that the experts in the filed disagree with you and can support their claims.

And please, don't use that "I will pray for you" line. it is insulting. It is one the same order as if I said "And I will think for you". They are both equal in the ways of personal attacks on the other person.

 

[Skreeper]

Gay is a life choice.

Gay people dont make a choice to become gay so stop making up falsehoods.

Sexual orientation is a mix between nature and nurture which you cannot control.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am not interested in buying your snake oil.

I don't believe there is a god, or a immortal soul or that my sexual orientation is immoral.

If you have an argument then make it secular if you want to make laws. Religious arguments only have a place in theocracies.

"Because God says its icky" isn't gonna convince me.

I wonder if they will ever realize that these parts of the forums help some Christians to support their claims without using their Bible. By relying only on the Bible the all but force themselves to lose the debate.

If their beliefs are true they should be able to support them without the Bible. That they can't seem to be able to does not bode well for them.

 

[LostMarbels]

Mohammad was almost certainly a historical person. By your standards it appears that you should be a Muslim.

Muslims reject the idea that Jesus was God and consider the belief blasphemous(Sura 5:75). Islam says that Jesus was an apostle of Allah just like all the other apostles of Allah (Sura 5:78). The Qur'an says that anyone who believes Jesus is "the Son of God" is imitating "what the unbelievers of old used to say. The Son of Mary of returns to defeat their 'Antichrist'.

I read the Qur'an. I looked into it. Whats next?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Muslims reject the idea that Jesus was God and consider the belief blasphemous(Sura 5:75). Islam says that Jesus was an apostle of Allah just like all the other apostles of Allah (Sura 5:78). The Qur'an says that anyone who believes Jesus is "the Son of God" is imitating "what the unbelievers of old used to say. The Son of Mary of returns to defeat their 'Antichrist'.

I read the Qur'an. I looked into it. Whats next?

A dodge and a duck. You did not understand your error at best.

I don't believe the Quran either. That was not the point. You mentioned Jesus as being a historical figure, obviously it does not matter since Mohammad was a historical figure too.

 

[LostMarbels]

Gay people dont make a choice to become gay so stop making up falsehoods.

Not so sure of that. Im married, have 2 beautiful girls, and have been in a very loving heterosexual relationship for over 20 years.

Sexual orientation is a mix between nature and nurture which you cannot control.

Pavlov, I like him. So are you saying homosexuality is patronized learned behavioral traits adopted from social stimuli?

 

[LostMarbels]

A dodge and a duck. You did not understand your error at best.

I don't believe the Quran either. That was not the point. You mentioned Jesus as being a historical figure, obviously it does not matter since Mohammad was a historical figure too.

Mohammad is not represented in Christianity.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Mohammad is not represented in Christianity.

So what?

Jesus is not represented in Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, Norse Gods, etc. and so on.

 

[Skreeper]

Not so sure of that. Im married, have 2 beautiful girls, and have been in a very loving heterosexual relationship for over 20 years.

Are you saying you were gay once and now you aren't?

There is a term for that, bisexual.

Pavlov, I like him. So are you saying homosexuality is patronized learned behavioral traits adopted from social stimuli?

What I am saying is that there certainly is a part of upbringing that can influence it but also a natural component.

If it was purely a learned behavior all homosexuals would need to share a very similar upbringing which isn't the case.

 

[LostMarbels]

So what?

Jesus is not represented in Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, Norse Gods, etc. and so on.

Im not going thru every example you present because that is not what this thread is about.

Some high level Buddhists have drawn analogies between Jesus and Buddhism, e.g. in 2001 the Dalai Lama stated that "Jesus Christ also lived previous lives", and added that "So, you see, he reached a high state, either as a Bodhisattva, or an enlightened person, through Buddhist practice or something like that.". Wikipedia.

 

[LostMarbels]

Are you saying you were gay once and now you aren't?

Yup.

There is a term for that, bisexual.

There is another term, a predisposition. Or an inclination. Just because you have a predisposition, or a want, doesn't mean you have to.

What I am saying is that there certainly is a part of upbringing that can influence it but also a natural component.

If it was purely a learned behavior all homosexuals would need to share a very similar upbringing which isn't the case.

I agree, however even in the terms of an evolutionary process two of the same sex cannot reproduce. No offspring, no continuance of the species. You must have the fertilization of an egg. We can get into speciation, genetic drift and the like on a differnt thread. Even in hermaphroditic reproduction you must have both male and female represented.