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If we were humanist else restricted to human logic, you'd be absolutely right.Wouldn't it be more accurate to say instead: People are usually born recognizably as either Male or Female, but a few people have exceptional cases that are recocognizably difficult to discern?
Why can't we just say this rather than over-extending labels and multiplying unnatural concepts regarding one's biological sex? Why can't we all just have compassion for folks who are having difficulties and disorders with sexual identity?
If we were humanist else restricted to human logic, you'd be absolutely right.
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If we believe in the God of the bible, we primarily accept He knows better and His word makes it clear what is natural and unnatural and what is sinful and what is not. This is not our judgement but His.
And you know this because...? I don't think I've ever interacted with you before this thread, so I have a hard time accepting your categorization of what I would think.No, I’m saying that human rights trump religious determinations of rights. A statement you’d agree with very much if you lived somewhere that it wasn’t your religion determining the rights.
Plenty of idiots already think like this without Dianic Paganism or whatever 'taking over' anything, so what're you gonna do? It's nothing to get upset about. I pity people who think like this.You’d be far less amenable to faith superseding basic human rights if the offshoot of Traditional Dianic Paganism took over and said “you’re a man therefore you are less important to society to women and your rights will reflect that.”
Oof...you got me...I care so much about bank holidays being determined by a calendar I don't even follow (the Coptic Orthodox Church uses the Egyptian calendar, not the Western one, so dates very rarely line up). This is what would definitely set me off.Or if the Atheists took power and said bank and federal holidays will no longer be determined by the Christian worship calendar.
Yeah, the Coptic Orthodox Church sure knows nothing about living under Islam...Or if those who follow traditional Islam said that we’re going to structure grocery stores like they do in the east, where non-religiously appropriate food is not carried or stuffed in a sequestered part of the store and if you buy those products, you must use a different cashier and exit a different door in the back.
And you know this because...? I don't think I've ever interacted with you before this thread, so I have a hard time accepting your categorization of what I would think.
Besides, what you describe is exactly how my Church already lives (not me personally, since I'm not in Egypt, Syria, etc.), and it hasn't made us any less committed to traditional Christian anthropology (not secular human rights campaigns), while still claiming human rights from a Christian perspective -- i.e., rights rooted in God, not in the changing ideological fashions of any given society.
Plenty of idiots already think like this without Dianic Paganism or whatever 'taking over' anything, so what're you gonna do? It's nothing to get upset about. I pity people who think like this.
Oof...you got me...I care so much about bank holidays being determined by a calendar I don't even follow (the Coptic Orthodox Church uses the Egyptian calendar, not the Western one, so dates very rarely line up). This is what would definitely set me off.
Yeah, the Coptic Orthodox Church sure knows nothing about living under Islam...Please, tell me more what that would be like! I don't have anyone else who can tell me! You're my source of 'insider knowledge', O Tropical Wilds! How can I shop at a Middle Eastern grocery store?!
I'd write to whatever authority granted you your degree in mind reading and ask for my $2.99 back, if I were you. You're clearly quite bad at it.
If by 'got through to' you mean 'got laughed at and dismissed', then yes. Yes it did.Well, I appear to have struck quite the nerve, LoL. Seems as if my point got through to the intended audience.
If by 'got through to' you mean 'got laughed at and dismissed', then yes. Yes it did.
I'm with you on the outrage farming, imo modern journos have done more damage to their own credibility than any outside force through their usage of tweets as sources in order to write an article. However, you're fundamentally missing the point with this quote above. The issue is not that people will marry their pets or cars, it's that the justification used for homosexuality also allowed for this behaviour. If I was to suggest to you instead of these spurious examples something like polygamy, how would argue against it if I was to use the same justification for homosexual marriage? Namely that 'love is love' or 'a preference for sodomy is genetic like heterosexual intercourse and therefore homosexuals are the same as heterosexuals'. The entire foundation for justifying moral sexual behaviour is demolished and your calling it 'pearl-clutching' instead of seeing the issue at hand that this 'pearl-clutching' represents does nothing but exacerbate the intensity of the discourse by dismissing points of view instead of saying why they're wrong.
Society is being programmed to accept the whole trans ball of wax. So if a 50 year old man decides he's a 10 year old girl, he'll probably be able to join the Girl Scouts or a Girl's junior swim team.
Also the whole idea of blurring or eliminating the social constructs regarding age, is a pedophile's dream come true.
It always starts out as a tiny percent it'll never happen, and then it's everywhere.Society isn't being programmed. It isn't a machine.
You are talking about a tiny minority of the population that would have such extreme views, less than 5 percent.
People are being manipulated here, and it's not a "trans agenda" doing it. It's powerful interests that are interested in seeing Americans at war with each other.
It always starts out as a tiny percent it'll never happen, and then it's everywhere.
When it comes to the convoluted and expanding trans issue, the slippery slope hasn't been a fallacy. The goal of LGBTQQIP2SAA+ is the inclusion of anything and everything, a total free-for-all.Thats' a slippery slope argument.
Intellectual fads come and go. With the rise of metamodernism, I doubt very much people are going to accept the notion that things like age and gender are purely arbitrary. "Socially constructed" doesn't mean arbitrary, and I think influencers both the Left and Right are throwing around terms they don't really understand, to advance an agenda that most people would otherwise never agree to, unless somehow they weren't confused or scared into doing so.
Intractable controversy about a supposed clash of "values" makes them money and is a distraction. Trans people are nothing new, they've been around for decades, until basically the news decided that covering the aftermath of the Great Recession was too boring and not worth the bother. That's why so many wealthy oligarchs are backing news outlets that cover this particular "culture war". As Lyndon Johnson pointed out decades ago, if you can convince the masses that a minority is a threat, it's easier to pick their pocket.
Ignoring that age and the benefits associated with it is, in fact, a social construct and two articles from questionable sources does not a trend make… So people say they feel an age different than their chronological age. Who cares? Laws are written to chronological age from birth, not perceptive age from beliefs, mindsets, or other constructs. The age a person feels literally has no impact on anybody but said person.
What are you talking about? Gender is already being eliminated at birth. And it's being accepted that men can become pregnant and give birth. Inmates in women only prisons are impregnating other inmates, something that used to be impossible. Next to come is that like gender, age can't be defined and a person is whatever they identify as being.Ignoring that age and the benefits associated with it is, in fact, a social construct and two articles from questionable sources does not a trend make… So people say they feel an age different than their chronological age. Who cares? Laws are written to chronological age from birth, not perceptive age from beliefs, mindsets, or other constructs. The age a person feels literally has no impact on anybody but said person.
It's already happening: The mechanic who transitioned to a 6-year-old girl | MercatorNetWhat are you talking about? Gender is already being eliminated at birth. And it's being accepted that men can become pregnant and give birth. Inmates in women only prisons are impregnating other inmates, something that used to be impossible. Next to come is that like gender, age can't be defined and a person is whatever they identify as being.
"Stefonknee (pronounced Stephanie) doesn’t look like a six-year-old girl, even in the frilly dress. She is heavy-set, about six-feet tall and has a deep voice. But likes colouring in and playing with dolls with other children."It's already happening: The mechanic who transitioned to a 6-year-old girl | MercatorNet
There seems to be no limit to the absurdity people can see as reality, and will still label those of us who are sane as being the insane.
Another instance of a guy who needs serious mental treatment, but instead ends up around young children."Stefonknee (pronounced Stephanie) doesn’t look like a six-year-old girl, even in the frilly dress. She is heavy-set, about six-feet tall and has a deep voice. But likes colouring in and playing with dolls with other children."
That explains it.
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