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[BeckyJ]

I have yet to meet the person who has shown me as to where "my philosopher's balm" is definitively wrong.

Until then, I'm going to recommend we look for the humanity in everyone first before we look at and respond one way or another to their possible sins and/or to their psychological and behavioral challenges.

"I have yet to meet the person who has shown me as to where "my philosopher's balm" is definitively wrong."
Ok (wink)

All people already have humanity since they are human.
As long as someone isn't judging hypocritically there is no problem with looking at and responding to their sins that they choose to show to the world.
LibsofTikTok is a good one for you to check out. They simply share what these people put out.
Even Gays Against Groomers shows the sins these people put out.
Numbers warns "..be sure that your sin will find you out."

 

[2PhiloVoid]

"I have yet to meet the person who has shown me as to where "my philosopher's balm" is definitively wrong."
Ok (wink)

All people already have humanity since they are human.
As long as someone isn't judging hypocritically there is no problem with looking at and responding to their sins that they choose to show to the world.
LibsofTikTok is a good one for you to check out. They simply share what these people put out.
Even Gays Against Groomers shows the sins these people put out.
Numbers warns "..be sure that your sin will find you out."

What is your definition of "hypocritical," particularly from a Christian angle? Do you have any biblical verses to refer to other than those found in the first several chapters of Matthew?

 

[PloverWing]

LibsofTikTok is a good one for you to check out. They simply share what these people put out.
Even Gays Against Groomers shows the sins these people put out.

I'd also recommend talking to some actual trans and non-binary people, to get some first-hand information in addition to what you'll find on TikTok and other social media. You can certainly disagree, at the end of your conversations, with the gender-nonconforming people you talk to, but this way you'll be informed by some real people's life experiences.

 

[BeckyJ]

I'd also recommend talking to some actual trans and non-binary people, to get some first-hand information in addition to what you'll find on TikTok and other social media. You can certainly disagree, at the end of your conversations, with the gender-nonconforming people you talk to, but this way you'll be informed by some real people's life experiences.

I know some, so I have and do. So I have first hand info and am well informed about their lives.
Why would you presume that someone hasn't interacted with them just because they disagree with them and agree with God?

 

[PloverWing]

I know some, so I have and do. So I have first hand info and am well informed about their lives.

Good, I'm glad.

Why would you presume that someone hasn't interacted with them just because they disagree with them and agree with God?

Since you recommended the social media groups LibsofTikTok and Gays Against Groomers, I assumed you were getting your information from them. I apologize.

 

[BeckyJ]

What is your definition of "hypocritical," particularly from a Christian angle? Do you have any biblical verses to refer to other than those found in the first several chapters of Matthew?

The Bible teaches hypocrisy a sin.
There are two forms hypocrisy can take:
- that of professing belief in something and then acting in a manner contrary to that belief
- that of looking down on others about a sin when we ourselves are flawed with the same sin.

Nothing wrong with the verses I shared, but I'll share 3, you can look up the rest:
Daniel 11: 34 Now when they fall they will be granted a little help, and many will join with them in hypocrisy.
Romans 12:9 Love must be free of hypocrisy. Detest what is evil; cling to what is good.
1 Peter 2:1 Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander

 

[BeckyJ]

Good, I'm glad.



Since you recommended the social media groups LibsofTikTok and Gays Against Groomers, I assumed you were getting your information from them. I apologize.

Since you made "recommendations", I make one for you...don't assume
Thank you for your apology!

 

[RileyG]

I asked this in another Christian forum and was surprised by some of the answers.

If anything, our society will truly see if so called “gender affirming care” is truly helpful in the years to come. Especially since it’s still rather trendy now.

I don’t believe it’s possible to change one’s gender, but I respect people’s right to live as they choose.

 

[RileyG]

Fantasy. Gender is fixed, even for someone like the late Count Casimir Pulaski. Despite surgery, there's no real way to change gender yet. One day it may be possible to tinker with chromosomes and then it would be possible to change gender.

Lili Elbe was a man who had multiple surgeries to “become a woman.” He actually had a uterus implant and he died because his body rejected it.

Lili Elbe - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Hans Blaster]

Rats! I thought this thread was about trains. Instead it is about DMUs -- passenger cars that identify as locomotives.

 

[AV1611VET]

The truth of the Gospel is very clear. Genesis 2:23–24 shows God's perfect plan for marriage, which was affirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19, highlighting God's view on marriage between a man and a woman.

Yes, indeed!

And note the order:

First God gave Adam a job, then a wife, then children.

In that order.

 

[timf]

An interesting article on the subject

Transgender Tragedy

There have been periods of history where people have had the opportunity to indulge various delusions. These were mostly limited to kings, emperors, and aristocracy. The present age is perhaps the first time that there has been such a widespread opportunity for many to so indulge themselves.

There was a newspaper photograph of a man who had his head completely tattooed with red and green patches and had his ears and nose surgically removed so he could support his delusion that he was a dragon. Today many children (for whom such fantasy and delusional thinking is more common) are being encouraged to damage themselves physically and irrevocably so that they can obtain a little more pleasure from artificially supporting their delusions.

One might think that the fact that half of the people encouraged down this road will attempt suicide would cause alarm. One might think it would be considered at least as dangerous as smoking. Sadly, most so-called social influencers seem to urge others down this road as if they would also cry out to a distressed soul standing at the edge of a roof to jump.

What usually brings an end to fantasy and delusions is reality. For the transgender, the intrusion of reality can be abrupt and filled with monumental regret. Parents who encourage children down this road may face the same lifelong haunting that parents who incited their sons to go off in a pointless war feel when their son comes back home crippled.

There are people like Mark Zuckerberg who are working to create technology like a virtual reality where one can indulge whatever one can imagine. Good parenting includes teaching children how to deal with reality, not how to flee from it. Some parents cloaked in self-righteousness declare that they are defending their children from those who would cause harm, blind to the fact that they are the ones who are causing harm.

Consider what the bible says;

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. - Luke 17:2

Our society took two hammer blows in the 20th century. The first was the theory of evolution cloaked as “science” which undercut the faith of many. The second was moral relativism which declared that there was no right or wrong. As a result, generations were born with no foundation in the knowledge of their creator and no idea that some of their ideas might be wrong and even harmful.

Forty years ago abortion was celebrated. Twenty years ago homosexuality was celebrated. Now transgenderism is being celebrated. The future does not look bright. The fifty year old woman with secret tears and sorrow for the child she lost, the aging homosexual suffering from disease and the ravages of drug and alcohol use, and now the aging youth beginning to recognize the effect of self-mutilation and considering suicide may all find redemption in the blood of Christ.

There is one who is the father of lies that sets the course of this world. Those vulnerable to his deceptions can pay a very high price. While not often can someone vulnerable be dissuaded from following the lies, those who can have gone down these roads and discovered the consequences of fleeing reality who may be more open to words of truth and love.

For their own good, children need to be skilled at dealing with reality. Hiding in an imaginary playland will only bring tears and sorrow for a neglected and misused life.

 

[Niels]

In my opinion it's none of my business. I'm not the fashion police.

How would I want to be treated if I was trans? With common courtesy.

 

[DamianWarS]

I asked this in another Christian forum and was surprised by some of the answers.

can you define gender