So your saying that God isn't speaking through a person, that person is saying whatever, whenever?Paul said in 1Cor14 that the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. He said this in the context of exercising the gifts of tongues and prophecy. The way I see this quote is that we have the choice of whether we speak in tongues or not. There is no 'force' that takes us over. If that was so, we would not be exercising a spiritual gift in faith. We choose to exercise faith, we are not 'taken over'.
Therefore we have absolute control over whether we choose to speak in English or tongues when we pray.
What we have no control over is the inspiration of the words that we speak. Therefore, we in faith open our mouths and speak a language that we have not learned, and the Holy Spirit inspires us with the appropriate words.
When a person speaks fluently in tongues, they are speaking too fast to be able to make the words up themselves. Therefore, if there is no time to think of the words and speak them, where are the words coming from that flow out of a tongues speaker's mouth? There is a good answer to that:
It is the Holy Spirit giving the words for the speaker to speak. Therefore the words are not coming FROM the mind, but THROUGH it. The origin of the words therefore is the Holy Spirit within our own spirit.
Therefore, when we exercise faith and stop praying in English and start praying in tongues, we are activating the flow of the Holy Spirit through us to God. The Scripture says that from out of our innermost being shall flow rivers of living water. The writer says that he was talking about the flow of the Spirit through us. You can look up your concordance for the reference for that.
I believe that if a person has a manifestation where they lose their own self control and direction, I feel the need to go and cast it out in the Name of Jesus, because it is not of the Holy Spirit. One of the fruit of the Holy Spirit is self control, and anything that 'takes us over' is demonic in origin and needs to be resisted in Jesus' name.
Satan is not going to give you something to gloryified God. this is your mind (Satan) telling you that your doing it all wrong. When in fact, Satan is mad at you. The more you get from God, the more Satan will come against you. But hold on to God's unchanging hand. God gave you this gift to edify yourself. He didn't give you this gift if he knew you wasn't going to use it. Remember God is not the auther of confusion. Satan is. You keep seeking the Lord and he will make your trials a blessing.I received the gift of praying in tongues in November of 2002,while pregnant with my daughter! I remember how wonderful it was;within my heart,I heard a Voice telling me to pray in the Language He has given me at least once every day!
Due to the fact that it sounded funny,(the tongues I spoke in),I do it on and off;sometimes it even seems like I start behaving angrily with my family and relatives after I have finished praying and therefore I begin to think it may not be the "right" tongues!
I have had social anxiety from I was a small child,could it possibly be that God wants me to pray in this Language so that I will be more faithful and courageous!
I need someone's advice as this has been on my mind for quite some time!
Thank you for your replies in advance!!! God bless CF!
So your saying that God isn't speaking through a person, that person is saying whatever, whenever?
Yes a person has the choice to speak in tongues, if they have this gift. If a person doesn't have the gift of tongues, they shouldn't even try to.
If a person has the gift of speaking in tongues, if the spirit of God isn't leading them to speak in tongues or pray in tongues, they shouldn't. Because they are doing this in self and God has no glory over anyone doing anything in self when God has no part in it.
Speaking in tongues is a gift from God, we agree.
But do you agree that a person can't take lessons on how to speak in tongues. It can't be taught by another person. Only the Holy Ghost is our teacher.
No, but there's nothing wrong with doing that.... some churches would call that "praying through", as in submitting your own personal will to follow the Spirit's leading and guidance.... even Paul spoke of speaking in tongues frequently (I Cor 14:18)Do you HAVE to speak in tounges every time you pray to please god or what?
I feel that the public tongues are a gift with a God-given prompt. In contrast, the personal tongues seem a personal expression of prayer in which we might team with the Holy Spirit to pray for things... sometimes with very little knowledge of the needs. That is not the complete definition, but I find it very much a matter of choice and yielding to participate.It is a gift but it does is not at your beckon call
Besides your suspicions, and what Rebecca said about evil resistance, there's another possibility. In post 18 Rebecca mentioned discernment.it even seems like I start behaving angrily with my family and relatives after I have finished praying and therefore I begin to think it may not be the "right" tongues!
I need someone's advice as this has been on my mind for quite some time!
I agree with this statement and with it I'll add that the bible says that God has given each of us a gift or gifts, and he told Paul to stir up the gift inside. I have the gift of discernment and at times it is a blessing, but other times, not so much a blessing. Because God reveals things to me that I really didn't want to know about others.
I'm so confused...A person whom has the gift of tongues can't speak in tongues whenever they chose. It is God speaking through them. They do not have control over what they speak. For it is the Holy Ghost that has the power.
Lol, this is such aI recently got the gift of speaking in tongues, I can choose to speak in tongues and when not to speak in tongues. Is it still God speaking through me, I don't understand...
Many fellowships ignore this one, or resist people saying they have it. Not a lot is mentioned on it, and there are abuses with any named gift.If you are talking manifestations of the Holy Spirit, then there is a gift of discerning of spirits. Not the same thing at all
So your saying that God isn't speaking through a person, that person is saying whatever, whenever?
Yes a person has the choice to speak in tongues, if they have this gift. If a person doesn't have the gift of tongues, they shouldn't even try to.
If a person has the gift of speaking in tongues, if the spirit of God isn't leading them to speak in tongues or pray in tongues, they shouldn't. Because they are doing this in self and God has no glory over anyone doing anything in self when God has no part in it.
Speaking in tongues is a gift from God, we agree.
But do you agree that a person can't take lessons on how to speak in tongues. It can't be taught by another person. Only the Holy Ghost is our teacher.
I'm so confused...
I recently got the gift of speaking in tongues, I can choose to speak in tongues and when not to speak in tongues. Is it still God speaking through me, I don't understand...
I'm so confused...
I recently got the gift of speaking in tongues, I can choose to speak in tongues and when not to speak in tongues. Is it still God speaking through me, I don't understand...
14 (ASV) For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
You don't have to be confused. You have the power to speak in tongues whenever you want. The miracle of tongues consists in the words that come out of your mouth. Every time you use your faith, believing that the language you are speaking is to God and He understands it, the Holy Spirit is flowing through you in tongues.
Here is a misunderstanding - that the Holy Spirit somehow takes over and out it pours without you having any control over it. That is not faith. And the Scripture says that without faith it is impossible to please God. Faith is a deliberate act which you do. Faith is under your control. Every time you choose to speak in tongues you are using your faith. It is your faith, then that opens the gate and allows the Holy Spirit to flow through you to the Lord.
You can start and stop at any time because it is your faith that controls it. You may not have absolute control over the words you are saying because they are inspired by the Holy Spirit, but you can control when and where you speak them.
So don't be confused, just continue using your faith and speak in tongues to the Lord whenever you wish, and the Lord will always honour your faith; because when you use your faith, it pleases Him.
You don't have to be confused. You have the power to speak in tongues whenever you want. The miracle of tongues consists in the words that come out of your mouth. Every time you use your faith, believing that the language you are speaking is to God and He understands it, the Holy Spirit is flowing through you in tongues.
Here is a misunderstanding - that the Holy Spirit somehow takes over and out it pours without you having any control over it. That is not faith. And the Scripture says that without faith it is impossible to please God. Faith is a deliberate act which you do. Faith is under your control. Every time you choose to speak in tongues you are using your faith. It is your faith, then that opens the gate and allows the Holy Spirit to flow through you to the Lord.
You can start and stop at any time because it is your faith that controls it. You may not have absolute control over the words you are saying because they are inspired by the Holy Spirit, but you can control when and where you speak them.
So don't be confused, just continue using your faith and speak in tongues to the Lord whenever you wish, and the Lord will always honour your faith; because when you use your faith, it pleases Him.
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