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Archoe, you are greatly misunderstanding the term inability. Also your are greatly ignoring the common grace of God in how He instills government to KEEP man from being as evil as he could be, also his sovereignty, to keep us from being as evil as man could be.

Secondly, inability doesn't mean that unregenerate men can not obey laws given. It means spiritual inability due to their inclinations/affections/desires that are ALWAYS at ENMITY towards God - to COME to God.

Even in "good" acts or obeying the law as unregenerate, those actions are still sin. "For whatsoever does not proceed from faith is SIN"
 
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I see one of two things of why a man does not keep the commandments.

1. He is still bound by sin, and sin is his master.
2. If he is freed from sin, he refuses to obey them.

Concerning no. 1, I think it's pretty much self-explanatory.
Concerning no. 2, does the Bible say we CANNOT do ALL things through Christ? If you can't keep the commandments, then I can assure you, it's not because Jesus isn't there to help you. It's not the absence of ability which prevents one from obeying, it's unwillingness.

Which of the 10 commandments are you having problems with? If you do not keep them, how will you inherit eternal life if you don't do what they say?

Luke 10
25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

Again, I ask, which of the 10 commandments are you having problems with? Do you have murder brewing within you? Do you lust after your neighbor's wife? Are you wanting to steal something? Can you not love the Lord with all your heart? Can you not love your neighbor? Perhaps, you have problems with lying.

Humble yourself before the Lord, and He will give you grace to help with these things. Beseech the Lord to help you. Repent and seek the Lord. Don't excuse yourself and break these commandments. It has nothing to do with inability, but rather, it's unwillingness.

And yes, you can be perfect as Jesus told us. Read that verse in context, and not by itself. If you can't love your enemies, then no, you cannot be perfect.

Get off your monergism duff and show the Lord He is your Master. Show Him you love Him by keeping His commandments. Stop the excuses and obey. Why is this so hard for Christians? I don't want to hear your theological excuses. They won't help you in the day of judgement, for it is your works, not your beliefs, that will be judged.

Sorry if this seems a little rough, but sometimes it takes a knock in the head for us to see things, and get us going. It's not 'means', it is OBEDIENCE! If you are a servant of Christ, you have absolutely no say in obeying the Master; it is required of you. Do not rebel against the Master, or He will remedy the situation.

He has given you everything you need to obey Him (the Word, the Spirit, the ability); you have no excuse to not obey Him. The choice is freely up to you to obey Him, and that is the ONLY thing which prevents you from obeying His commandments.

In His love,

Even Paul, a Christian, in Romans 7:19-22 struggled with sin.
I John 1:10, if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is no in us.

As Christians we STILL do not keep the law perfectly, and any good we do, when judged, is only rewarded because of what Christ did on our behalf because...

We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. Heb. 13:10

If Christ is our altar AND our sacrifice works only serve as an indication whether a person has faith but never as a sacrifice for sins.


And we most certainly WILL be judged on
whether we believed on Christ or not-
John 3:18

In the same way that faith without works is dead, so works without faith are dead as well
hence the description "dead works".



 
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"Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect" ... first of all you don't understand the word in the Greek, secondly you misapply it.

Love the Lord wit ALL "100%" of your heart, soul, strength and mind....

Arcoe, you love the Lord every millisecond with ALL of your mind? ... in EVERY action you do, brushing your teeth, do you have in your MIND (you are actively thinking) that you are doing that for God's glory? .... yeah, right..... The mark of an elder in the faith is one that sees how much more and more one sins in his walk, not less and less... you obviously are either young age wise, or spiritually young; or if you have been a Christian for a long time, spiritually dwarfed.

The brighter the sun is, the darker the shadow it casts.... More deeper you go in the gospel, the more you see how much you sin. Of course sanctification happens and you get rid of sin, but the more you clean out the big dirty things in your house, the more dust you find... :)
 
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Even Paul, a Christian, in Romans 7:19-22 struggled with sin.
I John 1:10, if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is no in us.

As Christians we STILL do not keep the law perfectly, and any good we do, when judged, is only rewarded because of what Christ did on our behalf because...

We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. Heb. 13:10

If Christ is our altar AND our sacrifice works only serve as an indication whether a person has faith but never as a sacrifice for sins.


And we most certainly WILL be judged on
whether we believed on Christ or not-
John 3:18

In the same way that faith without works is dead, so works without faith are dead as well
hence the description "dead works".




I would like to bring up possibilities.
Is it possible that Paul in Romans 7 took a moment to make a picture so to speak, of an unsaved man who finds the law and sees his sin? I read a homily by Saint John Chrysostom, and he makes this point. The part where Paul says, he is "sold under sin" would in my mind, say he is unredeemed. He later ends off with thanking Christ. Both Romans 6 and 8 seem to have the questions, "shall we sin that grace may abound?" To which Paul gives the answer, "no"
Both of those chapters make me consider that freedom from sin is possible and necessary. I would encourage you to try and see how a person outside your denomination may look at the passages. All I'm asking is, is it possible that you are incorrect about your interpretation? As far as I know, With the passage in Romans 7 being a sort of present historical tense narrative, it fits in right with chapters 6 and 8. I cant see chapter 7 making the point that "just because Paul struggled with sin means each and everyone of us must have our problems being in sin as well". To say Paul himself was "sold under sin" as he wrote those words, would make the point that he was a hypocrite, and unsaved, for Christ came to redeem us from sin. Even if romans 7 is about Paul being a sinner sold under sin, it does not set for us a de facto rule that all must be "sold under sin" as well.

Regarding 1 John 1, one verse is out to me by calvinists and others. That is verse 8, but not verse 10 since that speaks of having sinned (at least one time) in the past, which I don't believe any christian would deny. About verse 8, many interpret this to say, "if anyone says they stopped sinning completely, they're lying". I used to look at it that way, but the verse says, if we say we have no sin, we lie and the truth isn't in us. I would say, there is sort of a "step by step" process in the way John is writing. He mentions being in darkness, being in sin, and that is not following Christ. He mentions walking in the light, which I would say, not sinning.
If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. (I John 1:6-10 NKJV)
To say we have fellowship with him, while we are still committing sins, would mean we don't practice the truth either. Verse 7 seems to state the Blood cleanses us from all sin, I dont believe it simply means we are forgiven, yet we still go on sinning later, I believe it means we are cleansed of sin, by that ceasing sin is implied, and our acts are "cleaned up". Verse 8 is introduced saying, if you say you have no sin (at all), your deceiving yourself, and verse 9, but if you instead confess those sins, you can be made clean from them. Verse 8 in this case would imply the initial lack of admitting sin a person must admit, in order to recognize his errors so he may turn from the errors he would acknowledge.
We shouldn't look at one verse and try to dance around it. Let's go to the other chapters as well.
My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. (I John 2:1 NKJV)
I believe this verse to say, that we don't have to sin, and he's writing to us hoping we won't sin. If we do sin again, all hope is not lost, we still have Christ, but I would say, we cannot keep sinning, since that isn't repentance, nor is that the conduct of a son of God.

Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him. (I John 2:3-6, 29 NKJV)
I believe this would clearly mean the conduct of christians is keeping God's commandments, the ones we receive. If you say you are still possessing sin currently as a christian, not only in the past before repentance, how can you say, "I keep his commandments"?
Verse 29 says to me, Christians are righteous, and practice what they preach.

I'll use the ESV for this passage, but it was scary to read the KJV of it, back when I was a person in sin, not truly repentant.

Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. (1 John 3:4-10 ESV)

The gist I get from this is that, along with the other verses so far, is that we have sinned in the past, we must repent, as in cease our sins, and we must love God and love people, and those who disobey God, or have hate for fellow man are not of God, those who continue to sin, are of the devil. If you struggle with sin at some point and never come out of it, you'd not be of God. Christians if they sin, have an advocate, Jesus, and we must get out of sin or we "will likewise perish".

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world— our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him. We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. (1 John 5:2-5, 18-20 ESV)

These passages would indicate that we have overcome the world, but can we say that if we still sin and do not cease?
I believe we are not simply directly saved from hell. Rather we are saved from our sins, (matt1:21) and by that, he leads us out of sin, like a Shepard leading his sheep away from harm.
If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell. (Matthew 5:29, 30 ESV)
I believe the implication is that sin is a grave danger and it must stop.

"Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?" And then will I declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness." (Matthew 7:21-23 ESV)

Here I believe the meaning to be, even though they professed Jesus as Lord, and did good deeds, they didnt cease their sins, and that is why they were damned.

Im not a works salvationist, I'm a works damnationist.
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:22, 23 ESV)
We work our way to hell, but it is God who died for us, and it is he who offers his gift on his terms.

Anyways, if someone writes to us, so we dont sin. I dont think he'd have a problem with us saying, "thanks for the letters Apostle John, we aren't sinning anymore". I dont think he meant, "im writing to you so you sin a lot less than the other sinners" I think he wanted us to not sin at all.

I would like to end off saying, I was once somewhat of a calvinist, but I challanges my calvinism, prayed to God to give me wisdom, and I was delivered out of sin. All I'm asking is, is it possible that the interpretation I have out forth is the correct one?
Is it even logically coherent at best? Or am I "twisting scripture" to fit some demonic plot?

Thanks for slowly reading through what I wrote.
 
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BetaChristian,

What is the verbal force of the word "sin" that John uses when it says "not to sin"
Also you said that the fruit, LEADS to sanctification and doesn't say sanctified. Therefore the language suggests that sin still abides in all until we are completely sanctified we with Him in glory.

I also see that you used first John. Does our acts produce our being born of God? Or is it the other way around, that it is God's regeneration that produces the visible fruits in our lives that are the result and therefore giving us confidence of His work in our life? What about 1 John 5:1 is not Faith the RESULT of God's regeneration considering it is the same exact language to go along with the others in the list of the results of those who are "born of God"?
 
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BetaChristian,

What is the verbal force of the word "sin" that John uses when it says "not to sin"
Also you said that the fruit, LEADS to sanctification and doesn't say sanctified. Therefore the language suggests that sin still abides in all until we are completely sanctified we with Him in glory.

I also see that you used first John. Does our acts produce our being born of God? Or is it the other way around, that it is God's regeneration that produces the visible fruits in our lives that are the result and therefore giving us confidence of His work in our life? What about 1 John 5:1 is not Faith the RESULT of God's regeneration considering it is the same exact language to go along with the others in the list of the results of those who are "born of God"?

Why cant I view the fruit leading to sanctification as works on Earth that lead to us being called holy people while on Earth. The langauge doesnt say sin still abides in us. The verse said "But now being made free from sin" implies, being made free from sin, meaning sin is not abiding in us. That's simpy how I interpret it, you may interpret it another but I don't believe it was the intention of the apostles to convey that we will have sin within us til death. Infact, i believe their intention was the admonish, and help to bring people to holiness.
To simply form a notion such as sin still abiding in is from Romans 6:22 is out of this world according to my fallible mind. To say our fruit leads to holiness, Paul never specifies that we cannot be holy in this life, he simply says the fruit leads to holiness, which I understand as, in this current life. You produce your fruits here, and then God looks at you, repented of sins, free already, and he sees your works, and says, "behold my servant, isnt he holy".
Jesus himself said "be ye holy" I don't think sin indwelling in christians is the plan.

If you want to talk about monergism vs synergism, thats fine. If you believe you are monergisticly made to stop sinning, so be it, that would be great. Im not entirely sure as to what you mean by "born of God". I dont believe we are literally born of God, as if God takes us up, and makes us born of a virgin. In the same way "sons of Satan" are not literal sons of the devil born of a demon. Rather it would be a title, for people who abide in Christ following him, and not sinning. We are all created by God, but its more like spiritual adoption, when we leave the worldliness, and accept The Lord as the one we serve.

Regarding 1 John 3 4-9 and keeping in mind your "sin indwelling" notion. How do you reconcile the two. If sons of God, dont keep on sinning, since they stop. Whereas sons of the devil, continue to sin, possibly daily, in thought word and deed. In my view it is irreconcilable.
 
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"But now being made free from sin" implies, being made free from sin, meaning sin is not abiding in us.

Could being made free mean "not enslaved to follow after sinful desires"? Therefore a sinful nature still abides in us, but now having the Spirit, our hearts are inclined to God. Our inability to sin will not be given till we receive our new bodies. We still have the ability to sin that lies within us. Since you are in Romans 6, what about the same argument later on in chapter 7? What is Paul's argument concerning the law and sin? Does he say he no longer sins?
 
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Beta Christian, do you know Greek? It seems like you might be missing the verbal force of the present active participle meaning and what it implies. It is referring to the "ACTING" (continual) unrestrained habitual sin with no regard. It doesn't mean we will not sin, but it IS a warning that if we are not fighting sin, conquering habitual sin, that we might not actually be born of God. If we are not aware of our sin, and have not "changed" in our recognition and mortification of sin, but CONTINUE to sin as (supposedly) BEFORE one made a profession, then the person most likely made a false profession and is not TRULY born again. The stress isn't whether or not we sin, but our continual, habitual sinning without fighting it. The whole point of 1 John is that it is a "check list" to see if you have been "regenerated" (Born of God). Those who have been regenerated CHANGE! The act of regeneration produces "belief, love for the brotheren, love for the father, hatred of the world and sin.
 
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Could being made free mean "not enslaved to follow after sinful desires"? Therefore a sinful nature still abides in us, but now having the Spirit, our hearts are inclined to God. Our inability to sin will not be given till we receive our new bodies. We still have the ability to sin that lies within us. Since you are in Romans 6, what about the same argument later on in chapter 7? What is Paul's argument concerning the law and sin? Does he say he no longer sins?

By not enslaved to follow sinful desires, that would mean you can choose not to sin, correct?

Choosing to sin is serving the carnal mind, which is enmity with God. You must stop sinning, and follow Jesus.
We have the abilty to sin, I didnt claim otherwise. I believe we have the ability to choose to not sin as well. I choose not to sin. Regarding Romans 7, please read my earlier posts here, and even if Paul was in a sinful condition, he said he was "sold under sin" meaning he was unredeemed, and not saved. Sin is a danger.

I am arguing for the ability to choose not to sin. If you hate sin, stop sinning.
If you are sinning, why are you sinning? It is becuase you choose to, not becuase of some "sin nature". Sin nature is a doctrine of demons, it is a placebo that makes a person believe sin is his natural being.
Repent of your sins.
 
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Beta Christian, do you know Greek? It seems like you might be missing the verbal force of the present active participle meaning and what it implies. It is referring to the "ACTING" (continual) unrestrained habitual sin with no regard. It doesn't mean we will not sin, but it IS a warning that if we are not fighting sin, conquering habitual sin, that we might not actually be born of God. If we are not aware of our sin, and have not "changed" in our recognition and mortification of sin, but CONTINUE to sin as (supposedly) BEFORE one made a profession, then the person most likely made a false profession and is not TRULY born again. The stress isn't whether or not we sin, but our continual, habitual sinning without fighting it. The whole point of 1 John is that it is a "check list" to see if you have been "regenerated" (Born of God). Those who have been regenerated CHANGE! The act of regeneration produces "belief, love for the brotheren, love for the father, hatred of the world and sin.

It is best not the use the wrong words.
I do not know greek, but I have used bible.cc to look things up.
If a person is fighting sin, what does this look like?
1. A man who is having a conflict in his conscience, and gives effort to not sin, but does sin, and feels bad afterwards each time he sins, which is on a regular basis
Or
2. A man who fights temptation, and says no to sin, and does not sin
#2 would seem to be the right way to go about it

I know of people who say they struggle with sin, meaning they want to stop, as they say, but there comes temptation, when they are all alone at home, and they feel that there is no danger in sinning, so they trick themselves and sin again. Then they feel bad, and come back and confess, I sinned again, oh Im just a sinner, wicked and vile, saved by grace.

Such a person will not be saved if he doesn't cease his inequity.

Yes, it is possible for a christian to sin, but if he does, he must cease, and return to a lifestyle of obedience to God. Sinning should not be expected to happen, this is a denial of the power God has given us.

What is the difference between continual sin, vs the calvinists' sins that occur daily in thought word and deed? What difference does it make, if someone sins less often on a basis, or sins more often, in terms of where he will end up, hell, if he doesn't repent?

What are your thoughts on Matt 5:29-30?
 
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THanks for your input.

Do you love the Lord with ALL your heart, soul, mind and strength every nanosecond of your life? Every thought, action you have continually has 100% of the glory of God at the center of it?

That is a tall order that I find hard to believe that you accomplish.
 
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Every nano-second of my life? No, I haven't loved God with every nano-second of my life, but I have been disciplined in not going after the lusts of the flesh.
I know that if I sin, I will be in danger of hell.
I do not assume I will be forgiven.
Jesus said to cut off the hand, or pluck out the eye that causes us to sin, otherwise we would end up in hell.
He said that to the believers.
To love God is to keep his commandments, in that sense, yes, I do love God with all my heart, soul, and might, and mind since I dont break his commandments anymore, since I repented of my evil ways.
If thinking about food for a second is a sin, why didnt Jesus say such a thing.
The assertion is, are you thinking about God every nanosecond, to which I would say no, but he is on my mind frequently.
The sin would supposedly be, thinking of anything besides God's greatness. If that was so, why is that not made more clear? Instead we are told:
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 1John 5:3
And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. 2John 1:6
To say that thinking of women to lust is just as much of a sin as "not thinking about God" by thinking about how much a recent injury feels is not evident in scripture. I suppose the mind of Christ, was not only pure and holy only, but also multi-attention capable. As a human being my mind only allows me to focus on pretty much one thing at a time. Even now as I am writing this letter, thinking of what to say, I'm not exactly focusing on the greatness and power of God at the moment, but that doesnt mean I stopped loving God. If it was a sin to not be focused on those specific thoughts only about God, I would ask how Jesus himself was able to speak to people, without stopping to speak about what God's kingdom is like, or when he was in pain did he ever for a nanosecond stop and focus on how bad crucifixion hurts, or when he was talking about the bread and wine being his body and blood, surely he had to shift his attention for a while.
I dont believe its a sin to "not think of the Glory of God" with every nanosecond of my christian life. It is a sin to covet, lie, steal, commit adultery/fornication, blaspheme, hate people, commit idolatry, lusts for various things of the world, and etc.
Why did the saints not mention "not focusing attention on God with you thought life every second" as a sin? I believe becuase its not a sin.
All sin can be avoided, its a choice to lust, to steal, to not forgive, etc.
Lets say you stop and see a homeless and you have pity on him, you think, "oh a homeless man" and you give him money, and a gospel tract. You did a good thing, no sin was commited in doing so.
I will say though, when I first left calvinism, I still had problems with sin, so many worldly distractions in life, and old memories, and temptations arising, I did sin, but that time, it was different. I did not feel safe in sin at all, and I feared God, and realized if I kept going back to sin again, my repentance was not real, it would only be a for show confession. I had to really fight, and break the addictions I had, and that's why I can say I don't sin anymore.

If you want to ask me if I keep all 613 mitzvahs, in short, no.
I dont wear Tzitzits, nor have I been circumsised. If that's a sin, well, im pretty sure God's not judging us by those old laws. He wrote the laws on our hearts, to love God, and love our neighboor, and he speaks to us, and our conscience. He teaches us, and leads us out of evil.
May the power of God be upon you, and may mountains rise and be cast into the sea.
Anything, especially stopping sin is possible, if you have faith in Jesus.
 
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Why did the saints not mention "not focusing attention on God with you thought life every second" as a sin? I believe becuase its not a sin

Yet it says to love Him with ALL you heart (speaking of desires) soul and STRENGTH (zeal) and MIND. Not some of your mind, ALL of it. Everything comes from God, everything should be constantly related to Him in all our desires, actions and thoughts. Do you tell someone your are going to do something in the future? Did you say "Lord Willing"?

"So whether you eat or drink, or WHATEVER YOU DO, do ALL for the glory of God" that is an IMPERATIVE.

Matthew 5, Jesus is using hyperbole to stress the inability to fulfill the law. He was not being literal. If that was literal, why did Paul (who considered himself chief of all sinners) not cut off his limbs?
 
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Dec 7, 2012
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I have not loved God with all of my life, as in I used to sin daily like the calvinists, because I was a sinner, and then I was calvinist sinner, lacking faith in God to guide me and I believed lies. Thank God He has given me the truth.


Now, In the same way we love God, keeping his commandents. We love him with every second with our mind, if we do not sin in our mind. For to love God, is to keep his commandments. Also, if it is true that Jesus focused on the person of God only each second, thinking, "God is holy" perpetually, he must have been something else.
I think its quite mistaken, to say that loving God with all ones mind means only to think of the person of God each second perpetually.
For if Jesus did not do so, thinking only of God perpetually and not thinking of, even anything else, he would have, according to this notion, sinned.
Therefore I can say, with the interpretation I have provided, things make much more sense.
Who in the world thinks loving God with all your mind only translates to perpetually thinking "God".
Again, to live him, is to keep his commandments, so do not covet, do not lust, etc, which are in the mind.

Also, is it a sin not to say Lord Willing, after each thing?
No one told me that.
I wonder, was that verse, doing ALL for the glory of God meant to be taken, with a literal all?
How did Jesus fart, as a man, for the glory of God? I do imagine he farted.

So in Matt 5 he's using hyperbole, oh I see, now you can say its an expression, but you want to say no to my interpretation of what it means to love God with your mind.
Why cant Jesus be seriously asking us to cut off our hands, or become eunuchs, as some do for God?

I love God with all my mind, and by that I mean, I praise him, and pray to him, and dont commit sins in the mind, lusts, greed, covetedness, etc. for to love God, as I have repeated, is to keep his commandments.

If ever I do stumble, although, I dont have to, nor do I expect to, I will ask forgiveness.

The question now is, can everyone here, rather, whoever is here, who has an addiction to drugs or alchohol, or if anyone here is coveting, or lusting after someone outside of their marriage, or lying, or stealing, GO AND SIN NO MORE.
 
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