Tornados and Storms

[DaisyDay]

Winter is off season for them as the conditions that spawn them are typically absent but they are not unheard of.

This winter has had a lot of freak storms. Seems like a lot of tornadoes have swept across the south and in one season it seems as though California's drought has been ended.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The odds of that are INCOMPARABLY higher than dying from a COVID vaccination and yet folks absolutely went insane when suggesting the vaccination was safe.

There concept of "probability of fatality" became inherently meaningless to people at some point.

People, in general, seem to have irrational/inconsistent perceptions of various risks when compared to how they assess other risks. Sometimes they're politically/ideologically motivated (like the example you mentioned, or people who have fears about the risks of certain people using certain bathrooms)

Other times, it's just a random phenomenon of the human psyche or a manifestation of some deep-seated fears they may have.

For most people (myself included), I'm sure we can all think of risks associated with a particular activity that we're disproportionately concerned about (and that we take more seriously) than the risks of something that we do regularly that are far more likely, but that we do without even giving it a 2nd thought.

For instance, 12,000 people die every year from falling down stairs, only 3,000 people a year die from food related illnesses... yet, personally speaking, I tend to be more concerned about the latter than the former in how I conduct my risk assessments.

Operating a motor vehicle comes with a higher risk probability than a lot of things we do in our daily life, yet, I would imagine there are a lot of people who happily drive a car without thinking twice about it, but are more concerned about the risks of things that are far less likely to injure or kill them.

Another obvious one, being people who are really concerned about the prospect of flying. (odds of dying in a plane crash are 1 in 11 million), but the weekly drive to the grocery store or walking down the sidewalk next to a busy street doesn't phase them at all even though those have much higher probability...and it's doubtful that them being made aware of those stats would change their perception.

 

[Pommer]

This winter has had a lot of freak storms. Seems like a lot of tornadoes have swept across the south and in one season it seems as though California's drought has been ended.

I heard that it was going to be a strong “La ninã” winter.

 

[Tuur]

Isn't this the wrong time of year for tornadoes? My grandmother, who lived in the Texas panhandle, told me that she disliked the spring season because of the tornadoes.

Not really. They're more common in the spring, but they can happen any time. I remember a storm, possibly straight-line winds, that hit one Christmas day. Another, when we were starting Vacation Bible School, did significant damage.

 

[Tuur]

Now thats scary. I'm rather afraid of the thunderstorms in the high mountains around here (like everything from tree line up to 14,000 ft). Once we were hiking and had just gotten off the ridges when the storms hit. Lighting killed a guy a few miles away from us. We heard that strike.

I wrote "top of the field" when I meant "top of the hill." Well, there was a field there, and a road ran through the middle, but there was another, at a lower elevation, that skirted the field. We were laying by corn - the final plowing and application of fertilizer before it tasseled- when a thunderstorm caught us. I had the fertilizer wagon, and followed my father in. I thought sure he'd take the lower road. Nope. He headed straight across the top of that hill, and I followed. All the time I thought "We're the highest thing around." Later, my father said his reasoning was we could cross the field quicker that way than the other route.

 

[grasping the after wind]

while i generally agree with the rest of your post, this vaccines has been given 12.7 BILLION times.
It is not early.

It is irrational to think a vaccine can kill you multiple months/years down the road

It is irrational to assume that a vaccine with a mere two-year history will never have side effects that might not show until multiple years have passed.

 

[rambot]

It is irrational to assume that a vaccine with a mere two-year history will never have side effects that might not show until multiple years have passed.

Out of curiousity, what is the LONGEST side effect shown for which vaccine? And I mean, a side effect that does not show up AT ALL, until later?

Just so I have an idea of what to compare it to.....

 

[loveofourlord]

People, in general, seem to have irrational/inconsistent perceptions of various risks when compared to how they assess other risks. Sometimes they're politically/ideologically motivated (like the example you mentioned, or people who have fears about the risks of certain people using certain bathrooms)

Other times, it's just a random phenomenon of the human psyche or a manifestation of some deep-seated fears they may have.

For most people (myself included), I'm sure we can all think of risks associated with a particular activity that we're disproportionately concerned about (and that we take more seriously) than the risks of something that we do regularly that are far more likely, but that we do without even giving it a 2nd thought.

For instance, 12,000 people die every year from falling down stairs, only 3,000 people a year die from food related illnesses... yet, personally speaking, I tend to be more concerned about the latter than the former in how I conduct my risk assessments.

Operating a motor vehicle comes with a higher risk probability than a lot of things we do in our daily life, yet, I would imagine there are a lot of people who happily drive a car without thinking twice about it, but are more concerned about the risks of things that are far less likely to injure or kill them.

Another obvious one, being people who are really concerned about the prospect of flying. (odds of dying in a plane crash are 1 in 11 million), but the weekly drive to the grocery store or walking down the sidewalk next to a busy street doesn't phase them at all even though those have much higher probability...and it's doubtful that them being made aware of those stats would change their perception.

I've seen fear of dying from vaccine vs dying from covid has a lot to do with the nature of the deaths. If you die from a vaccine you activly did that to yourself, where as covid, it was random and probably could have happened anyway. Even though vaccine is so much lower, the fact ou did it to yourself makes it scarier. Iv'e seen that with other types of potential deaths and fears from somethng you do vs something that just happens.

 

[rambot]

I've seen fear of dying from vaccine vs dying from covid has a lot to do with the nature of the deaths. If you die from a vaccine you activly did that to yourself, where as covid, it was random and probably could have happened anyway. Even though vaccine is so much lower, the fact ou did it to yourself makes it scarier. Iv'e seen that with other types of potential deaths and fears from somethng you do vs something that just happens.

I disagree. Someone gives you the shot but you allow it into your body.

Go into a crowded area, go into a place with insufficient filtration; unwashed hands, coughing, hangout with sick people; sing in an enclosed space, share food drink, close conversation, embraces. If you participate in these actions you may as well be allowing the illness to enter your body. Worse yet: an uncontrolled version.

 

[loveofourlord]

I disagree. Someone gives you the shot but you allow it into your body.

Go into a crowded area, go into a place with insufficient filtration; unwashed hands, coughing, hangout with sick people; sing in an enclosed space, share food drink, close conversation, embraces. If you participate in these actions you may as well be allowing the illness to enter your body. Worse yet: an uncontrolled version.

I'm not taalking reality I'm talking perception. One it just happens, other you did it to yourself, easy to see how you can see it that way.

 

[DaisyDay]

I've seen fear of dying from vaccine vs dying from covid has a lot to do with the nature of the deaths. If you die from a vaccine you activly did that to yourself, where as covid, it was random and probably could have happened anyway. Even though vaccine is so much lower, the fact ou did it to yourself makes it scarier. Iv'e seen that with other types of potential deaths and fears from somethng you do vs something that just happens.

It's a feeling of having control - it seems to be a double-edged sword in that some people are taking control by getting vaccinated and boosted and following health protocols (masks, distancing, handwashing) while other people take control by refusing government protocols and mandates.

 

[MehGuy]

Don't worry, the tornado is more afraid of you then you are afraid of it.