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ILook at Warren's plan...she intends to stop "detention of immigrants who pose no risk to national security". That's almost 100% of illegal immigrants. It's not as if we have access to their criminal records where they're from. She's proposing legal pathways to citizenship for basically anyone who gets in....and if we aren't detaining anyone, that's everyone.
She supports open borders.
That's detention of people who are in the country. That was the policy under Obama, who had far from open borders, and fairly high rates of deportation. We should be looking at what the most useful actions would be, not trying to come up with ways of making candidates seem more extreme than they are.I'm not sure if you understand what the EU is...
But more importantly, I just pulled a common definition of open borders....and both Warren and Sanders fit that definition.
Look at Warren's plan...she intends to stop "detention of immigrants who pose no risk to national security". That's almost 100% of illegal immigrants. It's not as if we have access to their criminal records where they're from. She's proposing legal pathways to citizenship for basically anyone who gets in....and if we aren't detaining anyone, that's everyone.
She supports open borders.
So you try to spin it.....
She didn't say all students, and it was in the context of a question about DACA, which is about people who have been here for years. I wish she had been clearer, but she had recently posted a detailed plan. It doesn't suggest that we allow all students to stay forever. I think your understanding is unjustified.
That's detention of people who are in the country.
Are you referring to this? Or if not, provide a citation.
Decriminalize migration and refocus enforcement on serious criminal activity.
They haven't shown much ability so far. It wouldn't take much to end it.She effectively intends to end the ability of ICE to round up illegals and deport them.
They haven't shown much ability so far. It wouldn't take much to end it.
It's not exactly hard to decipher this....she doesn't want to prosecute illegals. She also wants to make schools, courts, and hospitals safe havens for illegals. That means even those convicted of crimes cannot be apprehended by immigration in court.
She effectively intends to end the ability of ICE to round up illegals and deport them.
From Warren's immigration plan...that you linked....
As president, I will immediately issue guidance to end criminal prosecutions for simple administrative immigration violations; end Operation Streamline, which subjects migrants to mass prosecutions; and refocus our limited resources on actual criminals and real threats to the United States. I will also issue prosecutorial guidance to prioritize immigration cases with security concerns, and make sure government attorneys are properly exercising their discretion for individuals who pose no public safety risk.
It's not exactly hard to decipher this....she doesn't want to prosecute illegals. She also wants to make schools, courts, and hospitals safe havens for illegals. That means even those convicted of crimes cannot be apprehended by immigration in court.
She effectively intends to end the ability of ICE to round up illegals and deport them.
In other words, Warren would reinstate the policies in place under President Obama.....
From what I can tell, Obama had two separate things going on: a deportation program focused on criminals, and Operation Streamline. I believe Operation Streamline was supposed to be focused on border crossing, while the priority on criminals was focused on people who had been in the country for a while. This separation was not complete, of course. Streamline was started under Bush but greatly expanded under Obama.
Well, please show the numbers and not just your opinion.
Nice try @KCfromNC but you got another epic fail with that post.....
That article is misleading in several ways:
* None of the candidates proposes open borders.
* The opening quote is from Warren. She has the most radical of the proposals, but it still isn't open borders.
What Warren said is this: "We need to expand legal immigration. We need to create a path for citizenship, not just for Dreamers but for grandmas and for people who have been working here in the farms and for students who have overstayed their visas..."
As was noted: so you try to spin it.....No, I try to explain our objection. It is readily apparent you do not seem to understand it for some reason.
As was noted: so you try to spin it.....
Please feel free to point out anything you disagree with but provide your citation to support your position. That is not an unreasonable expectation.I did mention several mistaken numbers in your source. For some reason, instead of explaining how those numbers are correct, you want to redirect the discussion to being about me. Or Clinton. Or seemingly anything other than what I posted.
Didn't call anyone any names and you know that so don't go down that path.....Now, do you have citations to support your claims or not? If not just say it is your opinion and let's move on....This would be a lot more convincing if you'd address the content of my reply rather than just name-calling.
see #118....As I corrected you, no I am not trying to spin anything. I'm trying to explain our different point of view. Are you willing to concede that we are disagreeing from a place of good faith? If not there is no point continuing the discussion.
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