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They should have an independant group do the investigations, not the House Ethics committee- the same they have done for past majority leaders that have been under fire for ethics violtions. In a deadlock- nothing is done. That isn't really accomplishing the point of an Ethics Committee now is it?

And this thread is not about what Clinton or Kennedy or Berger or Pelosi or anyone else has done. It is about the actions of Tom DeLay and the investigations he is under. And obviously something illegal and/or unethical has taken place if those working with him have been charged with money laundering and illegal acceptance of contribution.

And it isn't an issue of him messing up once and people getting all huffy about it. It is that he has been investigated for unethical actions more than 3 times and he doesn't decide to alter his behavior. He needs to be held accountable to his actions and learn from his mistakes- if they are in fact mistakes and he wasn't aware he was breaking House Rules. The things he has done range far and wide and not all of the deal with money paid for trips. In fact, those seem to be the least of the allegations.

I personaly think that abusing your office to have federal agencies do things to help your politics when you don't like what is going on is an abuse of power. And it is unethical. I personally think that offering favors for votes in the way in which he as done is unethical. And it seems the government does as well, otherwise he wouldn't be under investigation. If people were simply slinging mud to make him look bad- he wouldn't be under investigation- UNLESS it was in fact something unethical.

And no one is trying to discredit any positive things he has done. That's great. Good people do bad things and bad people do good things. That isn't a new concept. And it doesn't mean we do not support the good that DeLay does. What it DOES mean is that we want him held accountable and to act in an ethical manner or face the consequences of his actions as any responsible human being should do.
 
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tollytee said:
Is the lesson you learned from Clinton (both), Schumer, Pelosi, Kennedy, Frank (remember his little trysts in the Congressional locker room?), ad infinitum?

Neither party holds the monopoly on ethics, folks? Can we agree on that?

Only one party claims to....
 
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Oonna said:
I have to agree with you...he does represent EXACTLY what the Christian right is. :thumbsup:

He is sort of a useful idiot. A constant reminder to the moderates that THIS is your future if you keep voting for these people.
 
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Oonna said:
I have to agree with you...he does represent EXACTLY what the Christian right is. :thumbsup:

I will agree too. As long as he's around, we have a chance at getting the pendulum to swing the other way - starting with 2006!
 
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chalice_thunder said:
You have GOT to be kidding!

Sadly, no... there seems to be a memory gap about the political party which catered (some would say pandered) to the Christian Right with its ceaseless talk of "Family Values..."

Apparantly it's easy to forget this bit of contemporary political history, since all it was was talk.
 
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Nathan Poe said:
Sadly, no... there seems to be a memory gap about the political party which catered (some would say pandered) to the Christian Right with its ceaseless talk of "Family Values..."

Apparantly it's easy to forget this bit of contemporary political history, since all it was was talk.

How right you are!

Each word should be made incarnate by an equal action...alas, we don't see this very often!
 
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