Today is a sad day

[Texas Lynn]

You need to understand that the belief that God has revealed his holy will to us in the Scriptures is not one exclusively held by the fundamentalists.

In general this is true. What is not true, however, is that applying various little "do's and don'ts" from "scripture" for the purpose of harming others that one does not like is anything other than a particularly fundamentalist procedure.

If a "Christian" does not even believe the Bible is the Word of God, how can they very well know just who God is and what some "christ" has to do with anything.

I assume the absence of a question mark indicates this is a rhetorical question.

"The Word of God" =/= "literally true".

You can't cherry pick with the Bible..well, you can, but you'll find yourself in sinking sand..

That is exactly what fundamentalists do when they repeatedly and nastily cite the clobber passages to justify harming LGBTs. Thank you. And the result is certainly as you say.

 

[Crazy Liz]

I see. So the viewpoints of the small minority, in this case regarding homosexuality, should be forced on the majority of people who disapprove of homosexuality? I don't think so.

Forcing their viewpoint on you? How so?

Is anyone being forced to marry someone of the same gender?

Is anyone being refused civil recognition of their heterosexual marriage?

 

[Ohioprof]

As one gay advocate said, gay monogamy is homophobic because gays must repress their sexual desires by limiting themselves to one partner. This is emotionally unhealthy, where gays conform to the "straight rules" so they can look straight, sound straight, and feel straight to obey their own homophobic repression.

Whoever this "gay advocate" is, their opinion is not one I share, certainly.

 

[Archivist]

FYI, I am a she.

Sorry about that...

 

[Archivist]

Sorry about that...

To clarify; I'm not sorry that you are a she (that's a good thing), but I am sorry that I identified you as being a he. My bad...

 

[Ohioprof]

To clarify; I'm not sorry that you are a she (that's a good thing), but I am sorry that I identified you as being a he. My bad...

I'm not offended, just pointing it out.

 

[MercyBurst]

Whoever this "gay advocate" is, their opinion is not one I share, certainly.

Well I thought it was a good point about gay monogamy sounding homophobic. Often we hear gays comparing their relationships to straights, saying theirs is as good as this and that. It sounds like they really want to be straight instead of gay. It sounds like they are trying to conform to straight behavior.

 

[Ohioprof]

Well I thought it was a good point about gay monogamy sounding homophobic. Often we hear gays comparing their relationships to straights, saying theirs is as good as this and that. It sounds like they really want to be straight instead of gay. It sounds like they are trying to conform to straight behavior.

This makes no sense to me. There is no such thing as "straight behavior" or "gay behavior." Different people behave differently, regardless of their sexual orientation. Some heterosexuals are monogamous, and some are not. Some gay people are monogamous, and some are not. Many heterosexuals forms families with children, and some do not. Many gay people form families with children, and some do not.

I am a mother. I think the most significant reason for legalizing same-sex civil marriage is for the protection of our children. Marriage laws, obligations, and benefits provide protections for children and spouses. It's not perfect protection, but it is important protection. We gay folks who have children want our children to have the same benefits and protections that children of heterosexual parents get through civil marriage.

 

[tulc]

Well I thought it was a good point about gay monogamy sounding homophobic. Often we hear gays comparing their relationships to straights, saying theirs is as good as this and that. It sounds like they really want to be straight instead of gay. It sounds like they are trying to conform to straight behavior.

Got to remember no one person speaks for everyone.
tulc(who only speaks for himself)

 

[tulc]

This makes no sense to me. There is no such thing as "straight behavior" or "gay behavior." Different people behave differently, regardless of their sexual orientation. Some heterosexuals are monogamous, and some are not. Some gay people are monogamous, and some are not. Many heterosexuals forms families with children, and some do not. Many gay people form families with children, and some do not.

I am a mother. I think the most significant reason for legalizing same-sex civil marriage is for the protection of our children. Marriage laws, obligations, and benefits provide protections for children and spouses. It's not perfect protection, but it is important protection. We gay folks who have children want our children to have the same benefits and protections that children of heterosexual parents get through civil marriage.

QFT
tulc(has missed you sis!)

 

[Texas Lynn]

Got to remember no one person speaks for everyone.
tulc(who only speaks for himself)

There really are some str8 men out there who like the opera and some str8 women who like doing tuneups on their riceburners.

 

[MercyBurst]

Got to remember no one person speaks for everyone.
tulc(who only speaks for himself)

Well let's see here, people that expect gays to refrain from gay sex are being homophobic. Hence, a gay that refrains from gay sex through monogamy is being homophobic too. Makes perfectly good sense to me. (just a thought)

 

[tulc]

There really are some str8 men out there who like the opera and some str8 women who like doing tuneups on their riceburners.

Hey! I love Opera and I'm straight!
tulc(hoping to go this year!)

 

[tulc]

Well let's see here, people that expect gays to refrain from gay sex are being homophobic. Hence, a gay that refrains from gay sex through monogamy is being homophobic too. Makes perfectly good sense to me. (just a thought)

Hmmmm kind of like a married man who doesn't have sex with other women is not being a heterosexual because he only has sex with one woman?
tulc(no...sorry, I'm not seeing it)

 

[Texas Lynn]

Well let's see here, people that expect gays to refrain from gay sex are being homophobic. Hence, a gay that refrains from gay sex through monogamy is being homophobic too. Makes perfectly good sense to me. (just a thought)

Around 1900 African-Americans were often lampooned for fighting one another with straight razors because in the Jim Crow South they were forbidden to own guns or serious fighting knives. So, by Mercyburst's measure, white racist who clucked "Ain't it awful?" about that were merely being patronizing rather than racist. And certainly the impulse he describes would have resulted in African-Americans as they advanced in status to tenaciously hold onto razor fighting as a valued cultural addition.

Everywhere one goes one meets differences of opinion. The somewhat libertarian African-American writer Robert H. DeCoy was quite critical of the Civil Rights establishment when he wrote in the 1960s. I had a book by a gay male advocate of promiscuity as an ideology but can't find it and can't remember the title or his name. Some say Kathy Acker is like that but her milleau was fiction (of the unreadable sort) so it's unclear.

Mercyburst's argument some want to be promiscuous is equivalent to slur in the civil rights era that Blacks just want to rape white women.

As usual, he makes an overgeneralization and expects the gullible to fall for it.

IMO for most LGBTs over 25 life is pretty much as bland as for most hets over 25.

In attempting to stereotype and slur Mercyburst commits harm to an oppressed group of people and should therefore be ashamed of his reprehensible actions in this regard.

 

[Ohioprof]

Well let's see here, people that expect gays to refrain from gay sex are being homophobic. Hence, a gay that refrains from gay sex through monogamy is being homophobic too. Makes perfectly good sense to me. (just a thought)

So you are assuming that monogamy means refraining from sex?

 

[MercyBurst]

So you are assuming that monogamy means refraining from sex?

Monogamy means refraining from sex outside of the "pair bond"


monogamy

1. A form of sexual bonding involving a permanent pair bond between two beings.

 

[MercyBurst]

Hmmmm kind of like a married man who doesn't have sex with other women is not being a heterosexual because he only has sex with one woman?
tulc(no...sorry, I'm not seeing it)

That's right, I'm heterophobic because I refrain from sex outside of my marriage. (just a thought)

 

[MercyBurst]

Around 1900 African-Americans were often lampooned for fighting one another with straight razors because in the Jim Crow South they were forbidden to own guns or serious fighting knives. So, by Mercyburst's measure, white racist who clucked "Ain't it awful?" about that were merely being patronizing rather than racist. And certainly the impulse he describes would have resulted in African-Americans as they advanced in status to tenaciously hold onto razor fighting as a valued cultural addition.

Everywhere one goes one meets differences of opinion. The somewhat libertarian African-American writer Robert H. DeCoy was quite critical of the Civil Rights establishment when he wrote in the 1960s. I had a book by a gay male advocate of promiscuity as an ideology but can't find it and can't remember the title or his name. Some say Kathy Acker is like that but her milleau was fiction (of the unreadable sort) so it's unclear.

Mercyburst's argument some want to be promiscuous is equivalent to slur in the civil rights era that Blacks just want to rape white women.

As usual, he makes an overgeneralization and expects the gullible to fall for it.

IMO for most LGBTs over 25 life is pretty much as bland as for most hets over 25.

In attempting to stereotype and slur Mercyburst commits harm to an oppressed group of people and should therefore be ashamed of his reprehensible actions in this regard.

I said promiscuous gays aren't homophobic but monagamous ones are. You don't like being labeled "homophobic" after labeling other people the same way. Maybe you should stop labeling people.

By the way I'm not a heterosexual. Neither am I gay or bi. So don't label me that way. Thank you.

 

[Texas Lynn]

I said promiscuous gays aren't homophobic but monagamous ones are.

According to your interpretation of gay culture based on one guy's essay.

You don't like being labeled "homophobic" after labeling other people the same way. Maybe you should stop labeling people.

Everybody has internalized homophobia including all LGBTs. I don't mind it as a label when it's accurate.

By the way I'm not a heterosexual. Neither am I gay or bi. So don't label me that way. Thank you.

I think somewhere I read there are 27 sexual orientations. I know you're not a lesbian so you must be one of the 23 other ones. I figured something was up with that guitar-strumming Matt Frewer looking character.