To Spank or Not to Spank?

[Caissie]

What do you think about these 3 verses? Good advice, bad advice, whatever, tell me.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
(Whole Chapter: Proverbs 22 In context: Proverbs 22:14-16)


Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
(Whole Chapter: Proverbs 23 In context: Proverbs 23:12-14)


Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

 

[sweetlambofgod]

I am studying children in school and I have learned many things that can happen if you spank children so I will not spank them.

 

[Christy4Christ]

Well guess what, I have learned how many things can happen if you DON'T spank them because I have been studying children for 17 years (my own) and I didn't spank them. Luckily God came through and straightened them out for me...

 

[†Neil†]

i was never spanked and i turned out fine. friends i know who were spanked do drugs, alcohol or they smoke, have sex stuff of the world. i dont believe spanking makes your child any better or worse so there is no point in doing it.

 

[Dad Ernie]

There is actually much written in the Bible about "discipline". It can be relatively easy, or it can be quite severe. Any punishment (or discipline) "must meet the crime". Proverbs has many good references to the use of the "rod". Parents who do not use it "when appropriate" HATE their children, according to the Wise Preacher.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

 

[†Neil†]

i didn't call anyne an idiot i called the guy that wrote the bible an idiot because of the below statement

my parents love me very very much and they never spanked me to discipline me. they grounded me or told me i couldnt have something for a period of time but never resorted to spanking.

 

[Caissie]

 

[Biarien]

Psalms uses the image of the "rod" to symbolize God's leadership and sheparding.

I don't know if the meaning is intended to be a symbol for correction through parental leadership, or if it's twofold (meaning you should lead yet also punish), or if it simply means to physically punish.

I lean towards the twofold meaning, if not because of the wording, simply because of my personal beliefs. Parents that think you cannot raise a disciplined child without physical punishment obviously just don't know how to. I was raised without physical punishment, and I almost never have any problems with my family. Physical punishment is not a necessity; it's an option. Punishment in general, in my opinion, is of course necessary, but there's a large difference between punishing your child physically or otherwise.

I agree that parents need to correct their children, sometimes through punishment, but I disagree that physical punishment is necessary or a good solution. It's a solution, but when it becomes the only solution, you've lost your ability to parent, in my opinion.

 

[Biarien]

 

[Caissie]

Breanainn,

Very well put, You are the first one to actually comment on the verses mentioned. Thanks.

Caissie

 

[Caissie]

You're making a huge generalization. Every person, regardless of how they were disciplined, can still call someone an idiot.

You’re right; it was more of a joke than a scientific analysis.

 

[Biarien]

Breanainn,

Very well put, You are the first one to actually comment on the verses mentioned. Thanks.

Caissie

Of course. I think it's important to consider the Bible's position, especially as a whole and in the context, two things that are often overlooked.

And um, flesh, I hope you know I wasn't flaming anyone.

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

Breanainn: I know you weren't just removing all references to the post that did. WIthout it the responces made no sense at all.

 

[missy9676]

 

[jessangle]

I think spanking works! But it has to be done out of love. When I got spanked I knew it wasn't just because I deserved it, but because my parents loved me.

This is how spankings where handled at my house.

If I disobeyed or was defiant mom (mom usually did all the spanking) would tell me to wait in my room. It gave her some time to cool off and it gave me time to think about what I did. After a few minutes she would come in with the paddle. She would sit with me and we would talk about what I did wrong. She made sure I knew why I was going to be spanked. She would also tell me that she needed to spank me because proverbs 23:13-14 says "Do not withhold discipline from a child; If you punish him with the rod he will not die. Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death. Then she would lean me over her lap and give me my spanks, She went by age, when I was eight I got eight spanks. How hard depended on the offence. Then she would tell she loved me and she forgived me then we would hug and move on.

I think thats how spankings should be administerd. It worked for me and my sisters. When I have kids I will discipline them the same way.

 

[Caissie]

Sounds like you have very good and wise parents.

 

[Jesus My Wisdom]

What do you think about these 3 verses? Good advice, bad advice, whatever, tell me.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
(Whole Chapter: Proverbs 22 In context: Proverbs 22:14-16)


Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
(Whole Chapter: Proverbs 23 In context: Proverbs 23:12-14)


Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Spanking is only for very young children who cannot appreciate other consequences. These verses are not a license to go around whacking children.

Jesus My Wisdom

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

Spanking is only for very young children who cannot appreciate other consequences. These verses are not a license to go around whacking children.

Jesus My Wisdom

There is no Biblical evidence to show for your point, in fact we can see from the Old Testament that there is no other punishment mentioned until the time a rebellious child that will not repent is stoned. Praise God we are not under the law. But spanking is the best form of punishment and gives the best results when done properly. I am raising four children and we used to use spanking rather sparingly and had horribly disrespectful children. We sat down and came up with a plan and changed all punshiments to some form of spanking. We now get compliments on how well behaved our children are. We do it in close to the same manner as jessangel described. It works wonders. I was spanked and it worked for my parents, and it worked for their parents, and for theirs. Backing off on spanking goes right along with the rest of the departure from the teachings of the Bible that we have in society and the creeping relativisim that permeats even the church today.

 

[jessangle]

Hanging up in my kitchen there is a paddle. On it there is a little poem

In our house you sometimes see
A child across a parent's knee.
A paddle that's raised in the air
Lands on a bottom, clothed or bare.

The spanking hurts, its easy to tell
For after each spank, there is a yell!
But a spanking teaches right from wrong,
And helps a child to grow up strong.

When I was younger I thought it was stupid, but now that im older I think its kind of cute.

Well I just thought I would share that.

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

I am so going to post that somewhere in my house!