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Yet Paul couldn't heal himself of his own infirmity.And this same Jesus said to his disciples:
John 14:12 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
I am still waiting for your rationalization for why Matthew 8:17 does not apply.and healing may be when we die and are with Christ. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Still waiting....Yet Paul couldn't heal himself of his own infirmity.
And that promise was to His disciples.
And this same Jesus said to his disciples:
John 14:12 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
Simple Jesus healing diseases confirmed He was the promised Messiah. Those miracles confirmed who He was as the Messiah. They were the outwards sign whereas sin was the inward sign to the people. He forgave those He healed of their sins. Go now and sin no more.I am still waiting for your rationalization for why Matthew 8:17 does not apply.
Still waiting....
and disease is a synonym for sinLet me help you, Matthew 8:17 says that healing is a fulfillment of Isaiah 53. Redemption from sin is another application. It is not abuse to accept the clear interpretation of the Word of the Lord. If no one in your group believes Matthew 8:17, it is time to join another group. Although I would say that snake handling is not scriptural.
Disease is related to sin because it began after the fall - but they are entirely two different things. Not all disease is caused by one's own sins - otherwise babys would never get sick.and disease is a synonym for sin
yet all ones sins are forgiven past present and future but why are believers sick with cancer, heart disease,blindness, leukemia etc..... yet never get physically healed ?Disease is related to sin because it began after the fall - but they are entirely two different things. Not all disease is caused by one's own sins - otherwise babys would never get sick.
It is obvious that Matthew 8:17 is talking about redemption from sickness.
We walk by faith for our healing, just as we walk by faith for our forgiveness. As you yourself asserted by quoting James 5:14 which includes a "will recover" portion - it may take a while.yet all ones sins are forgiven past present and future but why are believers sick with cancer, heart disease,blindness, leukemia etc..... yet never get physically healed ?
Are you claiming God heals everyone but its the believers fault why they are not healed form their sicknesses ?
so someone born blind lacks faith for healingWe walk by faith for our healing, just as we walk by faith for our forgiveness. As you yourself asserted by quoting James 5:14 which includes a "will recover" portion - it may take a while.
2 Corinthians 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
I am not getting you with the "so someone born blind lacks faith for healing".so someone born blind lacks faith for healing
It wasn't Gods will for them to be blind correct ?
Exodus 4:11I am not getting you with the "so someone born blind lacks faith for healing".
Concerned being born blind - I am sure you have read John 9. John 9 is one of many applications of Jesus destroying the works of the devil. The church is the body of Christ, so we should be in that business as well.
1 John 1:9 indicates that sin is a problem that believers need to address on an ongoing basis. If salvation included forgiveness of future sins, then why is 1 John 1:9 in the Bible? Why does Jesus in Revelations implore some local churches to return their first love? Check your theology.yet all ones sins are forgiven past present and future but why are believers sick with cancer, heart disease,blindness, leukemia etc..... yet never get physically healed ?
Are you claiming God heals everyone but its the believers fault why they are not healed form their sicknesses ?
Claiming that someone has been healed when they've actually died is one of the biggest frauds the church perpetrates on grieving family members.and healing may be when we die and are with Christ. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
and they get a new body in the Resurrection. to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.Claiming that someone has been healed when they've actually died is one of the biggest frauds the church perpetrates on grieving family members.
Obviously, it's a comfort to tell people their loved one is now with the Lord, but don't pretend it's an honest answer to prayers for healing of a sick or wounded body.
Alongside all setting people free spiritually, from demons etc. Jesus constantly demonstrated that he healed the physical body, and when healing is talked about in scripture, it means healing the physical body.
There are other scriptures about wounded spirits, but that's a different subject.
Ultimately, nowhere do we see scripture claiming that a person is healed when he's just died. That's just a practice of con merchant Christians
You can usually tell its a lie when the body starts to stink after a day or two.
Here goes that Apostle John sounding off like a prosperity preacher.Exodus 4:11
11 The Lord said to him, "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?
and they get a new body in the Resurrection. to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
the biggest lie is leading someone to believe God will heal them of their terminal illness.
We are dying from sin, sickness and disease from birth.
That is Bible 101.
by all means believe in the health and wealth, name it claim it prosperity false doctrines thats your choice.Here goes that Apostle John sounding off like a prosperity preacher:
3 John 2:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
Does that mean you have changed your mind and have decided to throw out James 5:14 that you recently quoted on here? You would not want to pray against God's Will.If I get sick its Gods will, simple as that.
That was a demonic attack, a messenger of Satan. Nowhere does it say Paul didn't get healed. It's a lesson in how that healing took place, through deliverance from demons.Yet Paul couldn't heal himself of his own infirmity.
I'm against faith healers, and the individual gift of healing not the elders praying over the sick. Does God still heal? yes.Does that mean you have changed your mind and have decided to throw out James 5:14 that you recently quoted on here? You would not want to pray against God's Will.
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