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Originally posted by Pete Harcoff
I don't think age is a factor. I've seen people of all ages recycle the same oft-refuted arguments again and again. I think it's more an issue of education and experience.
That's why my advice for anyone wanting to jump in on a creation/evolution debate is to familiarize yourself with the arguments on all sides of the debate (and there are plenty of web sites for that). And try lurking on creation/evolution forums before jumping in.
Originally posted by tacoman528
To Chuck Darwin,
I don't really know exactly how old the universe is, but we can make a rough estimate of about 6000 years old. Why, because we know (according to Caeser Augustus's census) that Jesus lived about 2000 years ago. Using that information and the information provided by the greatest history book in the world, the bible, we can use the recorded age and recoreded deaths of Jesus's ancestors to add up the years from Jesus all the way to Adam. From there to the creation was only six days. If your confused I will give this example:
Adam was 130 yrs old when he begat Seth
Seth was 105 yrs old when he begat Enosh
Enosh was 90 yrs old when he begat Kenan
and so on and so forth...
all the way to Jesus!
so all we have to do is add up all those years plus the 2000 years since Jesus lived and voila!!! The age of the earth.
I hope that answered your question, and I'd be happy to have more.
Originally posted by David Gould
By the way, are Christians who believe that evolution and the big bang are likely explanations for present observable facts allowed to post in this thread also? They are evidence that the Bible does not contradict science, but I don't think they are quite what you had in mind ....
Originally posted by tacoman528
Reply to this message if anyone thinks there is evidence for The Big Bang, evolution, or anything else that is anti-bible and anti-science and I will personally make sure that you never use that against a new christian who doesn't absolutely know every little trick that you use on the likes of them.
Originally posted by Willowolf
Hey Peter Harcoff! There was a Global flood about 4,000 years ago. There are many proofs. I'll try to do it as simply as I can.
1) The water came from a canopy that covered the earth, creating a Greenhouse type effect. God caused this canopy to fall like rain. Millions of Gallons.
Evolution is not anti-Bible.Originally posted by tacoman528
To any athiests or agnostics,
I challenge anyone who thinks that science disproves the bible. Because it doesn't, and I'm willing to back up that statement. Reply to this message if anyone thinks there is evidence for The Big Bang, evolution, or anything else that is anti-bible and anti-science and I will personally make sure that you never use that against a new christian who doesn't absolutely know every little trick that you use on the likes of them. And to any christian that has a question about bible-science, feel free to ask me. I'll do my best to answer your question. And (to you athiests again) don't waste my time with rediculous questions like: what if nothing exists, what if this life is all one big dream and other things. I hope that I can clear up any misunderstandings about how science and the bible conradict each other. Later
That sounds vaguely threatening.I will personally make sure that you never use that against a new christian who doesn't absolutely know every little trick that you use on the likes of them.
Originally posted by daughter of the king
how did the people get that age??? we God created the world he did not create in new he created it fully mature, adam was a man not a baby.
the trees were mature and laiden with fruit
the animals were of an age able to bear children
so who is to say God didn't create the world thousands of years old??!!
Originally posted by Annabel Lee
Evolution is not anti-Bible.
You seem so angry for someone so young.
That sounds vaguely threatening.
Do you need a hug?
Originally posted by Smilin
Let's start with this statement.
IMPOSSIBLE!
why?
Your Biblical interpretation says this flood covered all the earths mountains, which by necessity would also have to include the nearly six-mile elevation of Mt. Everest. Using simple math: If the 6 miles of water had come from the sky (atmosphere), then before the 40 days of rain started, the weight of this water would have crushed anything living on the earth's surface. (One cubic foot of water = ~62.4 pounds. Thus 29,000 feet of it would have pressed down with 62.4 x 29,000 = ~1,809,600 pounds of force per square foot for every square foot of the earth's surface.)
The earth would have been destroyed before a global flood had all the water came from a global 'canopy'....
try again....
Originally posted by Willowolf
2) The tectonic activity was great, enough to form great mountains and volcanos and undergraound earthquakes. And it did pretty much throw the ecosystem out of whack, that is one reason why man does not live as long as they used to before the flood (Adam 900+ years).
Originally posted by JesusServant
Not that I agree with his theory, but once again you're using science to explain God's actions, that's just absurd. To a Christian God can defy the laws of physics.
Originally posted by Smilin
Why would our Christian God fool us with his actions?
Originally posted by Smilin
Let's start with this statement.
IMPOSSIBLE!
why?
Your Biblical interpretation says this flood covered all the earths mountains, which by necessity would also have to include the nearly six-mile elevation of Mt. Everest. Using simple math: If the 6 miles of water had come from the sky (atmosphere), then before the 40 days of rain started, the weight of this water would have crushed anything living on the earth's surface. (One cubic foot of water = ~62.4 pounds. Thus 29,000 feet of it would have pressed down with 62.4 x 29,000 = ~1,809,600 pounds of force per square foot for every square foot of the earth's surface.)
The earth would have been destroyed before a global flood had all the water came from a global 'canopy'....
try again....
With God, all things are possible (Mat 19:26)
Originally posted by JesusServant
Why would Him not leaving evidence of every action he performed dampen your faith?
Originally posted by repentandbelieve
With God, all things are possible (Mat 19:26)
Originally posted by tacoman528
To Chuck Darwin,
I don't really know exactly how old the universe is, but we can make a rough estimate of about 6000 years old. Why, because we know (according to Caeser Augustus's census) that Jesus lived about 2000 years ago. Using that information and the information provided by the greatest history book in the world, the bible, we can use the recorded age and recoreded deaths of Jesus's ancestors to add up the years from Jesus all the way to Adam. From there to the creation was only six days. If your confused I will give this example:
Adam was 130 yrs old when he begat Seth
Seth was 105 yrs old when he begat Enosh
Enosh was 90 yrs old when he begat Kenan
and so on and so forth...
all the way to Jesus!
so all we have to do is add up all those years plus the 2000 years since Jesus lived and voila!!! The age of the earth.
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