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Rhamiel

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you need to support your church with your time, money and gifts.
we tithe 10%
A few years ago (the 1970's?) there were a few priests who went from parish to parish telling people that they should tithe, the magisterium decided to discuss this matter and decided upon that 10% would be a very good amount for everyone to give but catholics were not under an obligation to give 10% but to support the church with your time money and gifts in whatever way you can. I like this approach because it is less legalistic
 
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you need to support your church with your time, money and gifts.
we tithe 10%
A few years ago (the 1970's?) there were a few priests who went from parish to parish telling people that they should tithe, the magisterium decided to discuss this matter and decided upon that 10% would be a very good amount for everyone to give but catholics were not under an obligation to give 10% but to support the church with your time money and gifts in whatever way you can. I like this approach because it is less legalistic
What's sad is that I heard stats that Mormons far outgive Christians -

If we don't support our local churches, then the community loses it's ability to seek God, physical/spiritual help and worship and many charities lose out becuz churches provide aid for their local communities and often sponsor missionaries they send out.

I'll never understand why people don't give more out of a willing heart. But then, God will tally all that up at judgment of works - people who gave well here will benefit greatly in eternity as I understand scripture.
 
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I also believe tithing doesn't necessarily needs to be "money"....you could tithe with your time :)
That's a popular view, but scripturally in both testaments I see the poor giving financially - I don't think it should take the place of finances, that could be used as a copout by some.

Jesus was pleased with the woman who gave her mite when she had nothing. He didn't run & tell her to keep it becuz she had so little. She was investing in God's kingdom.

I won't judge people over it, but God will becuz He knows our hearts and finances. People will have to do self examination to decide what their own motives are, if there's selfishness or greed actually involved.
I don't know.
 
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I believe very strongly in tithing. In the West, we are very blessed. If a Christian in the Third World will give you the shirt off his back, and that's likely the only shirt he has, then we ALL can give at least 10%. Furthermore, if we give the full tithe, that means our churches can do more for the community and thus we can have more loving actions to show for all our rhetoric.

I just get frustrated when people try to explain that the "tithe" rule is Old Testament only, and they hide behind it so they can buy more stuff. And when they call for more government programs to help the people who are down-and-out, when the Christian charities are so underfunded. Is the command obsolete due to the New Covenant? Maybe. Is it still a good rule of thumb for us? Definitely.
 
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I start too many threads, am sorry. Am sorry. But I really wanted to ask for your thoughts on tithing. I tithe "religiously" (forgive the terrible pun... couldn't think of an alternative, and now I have bad, burny shame feeling) and I suppose sometimes I feel a little resentful, almost, and that's the wrong attitude to have, and the wrong way to see it.

But so am wondering what your thoughts are? For example, would God prefer we not tithe than tithe with resentment? Or is tithing paramount?


Tithing is common sense. Nothing more than that.

Also, do you see tithing as an example of faith, almost? It's a way of saying to God, "Ok, am really finding it hard to give this money away right now, but I trust you to provide" maybe?

If it means losing your house to tithe, do not tithe. I'm sure God knows what's going in the life of the believer.

Also also, do you think it matters who we tithe with? Too many questions :blush: But I'd be really grateful for thoughts :hug: Fankoo!


You wouldn't tithe "with" an unbliever.

Remember, "tithing" in the Apostolic age is 100% of everything you have. Or, maybe it's just being honest about what you are doing with your money.

Soul searching subject this is.
 
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I believe very strongly in tithing. In the West, we are very blessed. If a Christian in the Third World will give you the shirt off his back, and that's likely the only shirt he has, then we ALL can give at least 10%. Furthermore, if we give the full tithe, that means our churches can do more for the community and thus we can have more loving actions to show for all our rhetoric.

I just get frustrated when people try to explain that the "tithe" rule is Old Testament only, and they hide behind it so they can buy more stuff. And when they call for more government programs to help the people who are down-and-out, when the Christian charities are so underfunded. Is the command obsolete due to the New Covenant? Maybe. Is it still a good rule of thumb for us? Definitely.
Yes.
As I remember a verse in the OT, the people couldn't even enter the temple without their best gift. God doesn't want our scraps, He demanded the best and FIRST.
Somehow we seem to think we can hand Him scraps & second hand junk we don't want anymore & He's supposed to be happy with that.

Aside from that, as I view NT Grace with the OT, I truly believe Jesus upped the anty on law, not tore it down.
In the case of adultery, people thought it consisted of just sex with another person they weren't married to. Jesus clarifies that it's MORE than just sex, even lust of another other than our spouse is adultery in the heart.

So I think that the same goes for tithing - we may not be forced to give that tithe, but it doesn't remove the principle set in the OT of giving. I think the NT calls for willful sacrificial offerings.

I think it's mostly our heart - are we rebellious & angry when we hear about giving a tithe? If so, why is that? Some introspection should be done to get to that source. It could stem from sources of how we view God (our relationship -lack thereof- w/ Him) our view on how important God's kingdom is or if we're more involved with life down here, or greed (materialism issues) or fear (possibly affecting our financial security)...
There's probly more I haven't thought of.

Personally, I wish we could give alot more than our tithe, but we just can't afford it right now.
 
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We tithe faithfully because we want to give back to God what He so generously and graciously gave us. Fortunately, I've never seen it as a burden, although we do find it funny that as one of the bigger offering givers in the church we're basically paying part of hubby's salary!!

Also wanted to add that we have several little old ladies in our congregation who can't always afford to tithe, but they give back to the church in different ways, like with their talents and time.
 
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That's a popular view, but scripturally in both testaments I see the poor giving financially - I don't think it should take the place of finances, that could be used as a copout by some.

Jesus was pleased with the woman who gave her mite when she had nothing. He didn't run & tell her to keep it becuz she had so little. She was investing in God's kingdom.

I won't judge people over it, but God will becuz He knows our hearts and finances. People will have to do self examination to decide what their own motives are, if there's selfishness or greed actually involved.
I don't know.




Of course Malachi tells us to tithe, and we of course tithe our money. But do you "tithe" your time? being in the house of worship on Sunday is not enough. We should "tithe" our time to others as well. He gives time to us, in the care of us, why can't you give some time to the Lord for others? Take some time to set aside for Jesus.On your lunch break instead of having a back biting tongue for your boss or another co-worker, talk to Jesus soon as you wake , give praise to God by a simple "thank you" for waking you , while your in the shower , let God know how thankful you are to either have been baptized or just to have been made clean by the Blood of the lamb, on line at the store ,give him praise for being able to have finances to buy food. Take some time for the Lord in speaking life to someone's situations .Take some time to minister to someone's heart in getting them closer to Jesus. Sometimes we may not have any money due to all different types of circumstances and you may feel like your not living in the will of God if you don't have money to give, give your 10% of your time to others instead. God WILL supply you with your hearts desires if your genuine and not just looking for him to do something for you . Spread God's love to others. I used to feel at one time , that "how can I be living in God's will if I'm not a tither, because I don't have any money?" Little did I know that if I just stayed faithful in the Lord and tithed my time to him , while I was waiting for our finances to be blessed, I would've been fine at that time. Instead I became worried, bitter, and discouraged etc. None were a spirit of God and I couldn't understand it at all because I was the type before I was saved, that I felt like "I'm paying God" to take care of me, boy was I ignorant. God didn't need my money , he needed ME . He needed me to be the woman of God he called me to be. I'm so glad that we have a God of second chances,3rd,4th and 5th chances. After all " what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul."
God wants you to give him quality time with him and of course with others. Notice when you ask a child if they have any fond memories of when they were growing up , they say things like " I remember when Grandma used to take us for ice cream every Thursday and play with us outside" it's usually not "I remember when Grandma would buy us an expensive pair of sneakers." It's the time that is always needed because we run out of it so fast and of course what do you do with that time definitely counts.
Again , tithe your time to the will of God . The kingdom of God does benefit what you've done because when the praises go up the blessings come down , as the song goes. Make some part of your day building the kingdom of God by "tithing" your time today !!! When I say you can tithe your time as well, this is what I mean...I don't believe it's a copout... and if you read #18 you will see where I stand, when it comes to tithing. God Bless you :)
 
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