Tips on blasphemous thoughts?

[shelovesChrist]

seajoy, i just read your posts , i didn't know you had posted . but i pray you come back and get well . we are all one in the body of the Lord and im grateful we have one another to encourage and uplift . praying for you .

 

[lcrich07]

Hello I wanted to write you and give you my testimony on my battle with blasphemous thoughts. I became a Christian five years ago when my wife eventually won me over to Jesus Christ. I was a former catholic so I had a hard time at first because I thought that once saved always saved was an excuse to sin. This is a common misconception from a sinner we feel that we have to work our way to God because it seems like the right thing to do. After I realized that GOD is LOVE I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior and things went well for the first couple of years. I loved Jesus and was reverent to God however I did not read the bible or try to grow. I was still addicted to lust and sin as are most new Christians and God was slowly purging out all of the bad habits. In my third year I fell into some pretty nasty sin and I gave myself over to it for a couple of months. After I got caught I stopped and about two months later was when the thoughts started coming. I have always had a problem with OCD, anxiety and trust issues, a prime candidate for satanic attack. I have had more anxiety attacks and OCD problems since I became a Christian because the enemy knows our weaknesses and has been attacking Christians for the past two thousand years. The thoughts started slowly then exploded into tormenting curses against God every few seconds I struggled with this on an off for a couple of months. Like everyone else I hated the thoughts and tried to stop them anyway possible this just made the problem worse. I used to be a catholic and was more prone on focusing on sin so this did not help the problem. The curse was against God only and went like this for a year and a half coming in waves then dying down to a couple a day in cycles every couple of months. I sought Christian counseling and learned my identity in Christ and I began reading the word daily. I would get frustrated when the thoughts would not stop and I eventually just accepted them and went about my life. After a year and a half of this the spirit came over me and told me this “The Father wants to get rid of the thoughts….You are seriously going to doubt your salvation”. I was like what the heck!!!! Two months later the curses transited from God to guess what!!!!!! The Holy Spirit. They were not as frequent however I fell off a cliff. I thought I was damned forever I thought God was mad at me and was trying to kick me out. I poured through the internet which is not what I would recommend to anyone who thought they blasphemed the Holy Spirit. I got different opinions some hopeful, some damming. I talked to numerous Christians and they all told me the same thing. I am saved and always will be and I cannot commit a sin that would separate me from Jesus. I just refused to believe this I really thought God allowed this to overtake me because he did not like me and wanted to get rid of me. I went on ups and downs for two months. This was the worst experience I have ever been through. My heart goes out to anyone who has the same struggle I have been through. I had to see God work in my life through this in order to pull out and he did big time. The thoughts eventually got more and more frequent and I really thought it was done. I thought God was throwing me into hell and I was lost forever without a way back to him. I was stewing about this thinking when has God done something miraculous for people with these thoughts and then the enemy would throw darts like you are the damned and he send those he does not want into this battle. The minute I thought this the spirit came over me again and said” GOD IS WITH YOU”. I was jumping up and down with joy this went for a day and then I fell again when I started battling with this even more. I held on by sheer grit and sought more aggressive counseling I poured into the word. Let me tell you this if you are struggling with this the only way to beat to help this is word, when I say help I mean mitigate this a lot. I don’t think this will leave completely. You have to understand who you are in Christ and believe it. This takes time and prayer. You have to understand this is an uncommon common temptation for believers. God is not a liar and he would not allow a temptation to overtake his believers and then damn them to hell for it. One argument I battled was well yeah he loves you but you really upset him when you took advantage of your salvation and sinned the way you did. I had to believe “While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Much more then having been justified from his blood, we shall be saved from God’s wrath through Him. Romans 5:8. This is comforting because when we were enemies to God and he loved us enough to die for us. Sure when we are reconciled we still sin however we “are dead to sin and alive to God” Romans 6:11. So why would God want to cast us out, because we fall into patterns of sin, take advantage of his son. No. Not ever. He loves us ever more because he sees his son in us and this is our salvation forever. He is not a liar and when he promised us eternal life if we believed in his son he meant it. His gifts and calls are irrevocable Rom11:29. So what is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. As best I can tell from doing a lot of research on this is it is a willing rejection of the Holy Spirit, as a final NO!!! I don’t believe, I don’t want it something to this effect. This sin is an unpardonable sin to the UNBELIEVER because it blinds that individual to Jesus Christ. Spoken curse or a thought against the HS is not a eternal sin if you are “In Christ In God”. This would be an impossible logic. How can we have eternal life in Christ is we can sin and lose it via a channel that we virtually have little escape from. I cannot run from the thoughts, I cannot flee, I cannot throw them away. The only way I could stop would be to render me retarded or dead and God would not allow this. I Corinthians 10:13 should be comforting to those in this endless war with little rest and a whole lot of unnecessary pain. Once you have the Holy Spirit you are sealed forever and now God’s child and he will not lose you ever. I will never leave or forsake you. He meant that too. Again I had to see God working in my life for me to believe that there is no unforgivable sin a born again believer can commit. I had a dream several weeks after this started to wind down:

I was a little boy standing outside a room. The room was warm and a man sat working behind a desk. I was nervous then I worked up the courage and ran into the room and fell to my knees. The guy got up and asked “why should I let you in here” I immediately said “because the remission of the world’s sins”. He laughed and said I have not heard that one used before I like it. He picked me up and told me that he remembered when he decided to have mercy on me as a sinner. He told me exactly what I was doing when he decided to call me to Christ. HE SAW THROUGH ME AND KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT ME AND THIS WAS THE MOST REAL DREAM I HAVE EVER HAD. I could sense his love and power and. I knew he was God. I asked him a few personal questions and then he put me down and picked up a little girl. I could sense I was dear to his heart. This was the end of the dream. I knew this was from God to comfort me because of the problems I was facing.

The bottom line this sickness is either a thorn in the flesh, our Christian growth struggle with sin and walking in the flesh, or punishment for past sin. This has actually brought alot of Good and I can see God’s purging process through this. It is definitely one thing for sure:

IT IS 100% FORGIVABLE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.

I was praying for an answer for how to remove these thoughts and I kept coming across this verse in the bible:
Matthew 15:18-20. This says from the heart come evil thoughts, blasphemies, murders, adulteries, fornications. I was confused I thought these thoughts were injected from the enemy. That’s how they began and I would give God anything in the world to get rid of them. Or maybe I don’t trust God and there is something more to it. All I know is all of men’s hearts are wicked and the only cure for this is God’s word. We need to get to know God and the more we know him the more the truth will set us free. I believe God is leading me to this verse to help me. I am getting to know him more through his word and I am seeing a slow improvement.


I am working through this the best that I can. I am going to get medication for OCD and keep moving forward. I know the only to really please God is having Faith and I have been focusing on faith more than ever. I would recommend the Bondage Breaker by Neil Anderson. This book is good on getting a believer to recognize their identity in Jesus Christ and helps with breaking bondage to sin. I am not sure if these thoughts will ever go away however I know I am eternally secure through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.

 

[127.0.0.1]

I need some tips on what to do with my life right now. I have these blasphemous OCD thoughts about God and Jesus that have sent me into panic attacks and nervous breakdowns.

I have them too. In fact, I'd venture to guess a lot of people have them.

Sooner or later, you're just going to have to realize that it's nothing more than your OCD. That's it.

And the best way to deal with those thoughts, is to ignore them. The whole reason why them come into your head in the first place is precisely because you aren't supposed to think them. That's why you think about them, because they distress you. When you decide that you aren't going to let those thoughts distress you, they'll stop coming.

I'm speaking from experience here. I get that stuff all the time. But I just tell myself, that it's my OCD, God loves me anyway, and I'm not going to let it bother me.