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Time for Islam to defend yourself?

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PaladinValer said:
Do you think he honestly would?

Of course not! He's not going to reveal his fatal flaw, though that in itself shows the caliber of his moral character; it's not very good at all.

I was only telling the muslims that said he DID say on live radio that he never read the Qur'an, read all of my post next time please.
 
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I listend to that already, and at no point in that debate did Craig state he didn't read the Qur'an, but just for you, I will listen to it a second time. If you are talking about the guy at the beging, that is NOT craig talking.
 
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Also, here is a e-mail from the guy that is debating Craig on that link giving above,

My name is Jalal...... I am a Muslim and have recently been given the address to your web-site on which you posted your book on Islam, The Prophet of Doom. You said this on the front page to your web-site, "So there is a basis for an intellectual discussion and fact based debate." (JA)Thus, I would like to offer you an opportunity to substantiate your claims against Islam in front of a live audience in a fair debate with me.Indeed, a live debate with a Muslim will help you accomplish the fete of exposing Islam even more efficiently by going on record producing your research and evidence.I know that you said that you receive far too many emails from Muslims, etc., but at some point you will have to render legitimacy to your claims about Islam by going against a Muslim in a debate and bringing forth your evidence and proof.Further, I wish that you will be different from many others who, like you, claim to have exposed Islam yet when challenged to a debate, they either ask for money(!), or offer other excuses. I hope to hear from you soon.i challenge you to prove what you say and claim about islam....thus, for you to offer this ridiculous answer is proof again that you have no case and wish to hide behind a book you wrote about a religion you seek to expose, yet shy away from debating one of its members...what are you afraid of?if you think you are correct, then why not accept my challenge and prove your case...in fact, i promise you not to read your book until the day of the debate so that you bring forth your utmost surprise...i keep getting the same answer from you people which indicates to me that you do not have the courage to be in front of a live audience for fear of being exposed...in fact, since you claim that we muslims do not read, it should be easy for you to dissipate me and islam because you read and appratently we do not read... the challenge is still on and i will alert news media to your ridiculous response to me...
peace be to those who follow the truth you are just another enraged fanatic who is full of ignorance and so much hatred against other human beings...you should not talk about sex at a time when catholic priests are being sued for sodomy -in the hundreds-, protestant priests keep admitting to have impregnated their wives before marriage and overall craze about sex, sex with animals, incest and a book you call the word of god where proohets had sex with their own daughters....still, disregarding your utterly ignorant remarks, i submit that you are ignorant in islam and my challenge still stands....but you proved to be just another coward, void of honor and full of hot air...i will read your book because it would suit me to laugh a little...if you think you are not a coward, then accept my challenge and refraini from abuse, which is the weapon of the weak....yet, knowing that you are not courageous enough to accept the challenge, i will let you enjoy looking at the pictures of your soldiers, especially the female harlot that has a naked muslim iraqi on a leach, for you to reflect on your society and the sin that christianity and judaism filled the earth with...muhammad was honorable, he married women, not like many of your priests who marry men!....it will not honor me to debate you but i will be happy to expose you for your ignorance....then again, you are just another coward...i challenge you to a bedate and you accuse me of being a coward! this is not logical, because you are the one who is afraid of debating me and proving your point....just put up or shut up easy, you think we muslims do not read, then debate me and defeat me, i dare you, i challenge you...you seem to become more enraged with every email...i wonder which religion taught you your manners, it must have been the religion of turn your other cheek; you are really rude and ignorant....if you want to debate me, send me an EMPTY email with this subject, "let's debate live", because i am not used to reading the kind of trash you write in your emails;shame on you...also, if you agree to debate me, you must stop insulting me and my religion while talking to me or emailing me (make it a civil discussion man and just behave yourself)...your lies are easy to defeat and your 5000 hadeeth reading will not help you prevail, because you read with the heart of satan and he speaks on your tongue, and stana never prevcails...so, again, put up or shut up man and stop insulting people, be ashamed from your lord if you are not ashamed of man...the only email i will read for you from now on is that which calls to a debate as described above...I said that i am willing to not read your book, and thus, give you the opportunity to explode me live with the loads of evidence you think you have collected and which you will surprise me with...i can read as i will in your book and quickly pick 11 places where you made errors...however, in this case, how can this translate into a debate in the future when it is void of live audience that will hear you and then hear the truth, especially if i successfully destroy your evidence,and by the will of allah i shall...then you might back away from a live debate because you only seek pathetic weak muslims who do not have a clue about islam and who do not read (i might be one of them, you know)..i also did describe a debate: i wanted your unconditional agreement to it, that it is civil, live and, i should add, fair..the details shall come if you but agree, in which case we choose a venue, time and date and a mutually agreed upon arbitrator to control the proceedings, and indeed, we need a simple written contract or agreement as to how the debate will proceed..we can both share the cost of renting a hall, of finding a free hall, let's say in orlando or chicago, and each one of us makes the proper announcement as he sees fit...no preconditions, no topics barred...but the details should come AFTER you agree and you do not seem to agree to a debate without preconditions, such as your insiting that i find erroros in your book thus exposing my ability or lack of it to you in advance...finally, i shied away from your other remarks and am trying to steer this conversation to being civil regardless of how you behave and what you say...i challenge you to a debate, just send me an email wherein you write in the cubject: let's debate live and stop this game of delays and preconditions...otherwsie, if you do not want a debate, i will read through your book and expose its errors on my own and in this case you will not have the opportunity to respond to me as you would in a live debate...suit yourself...i will give you until wednesday, may 26, 5 pm to respond positively and then, if you do not agree to a debate without conditions, i will relieve myself from the promise of not reading your book until a debate takes place between me and you...i knew you were a coward and still are...i still challenge you to a debate...you have until 5 pm this evening to accept, o scholar of nothingness...shut up and stop insulting my religion you filthy queer...the human waste that came out muhammad is cleaner than you and the earth fill of people like you... jalal
 
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PaladinValer said:
Whoopie doo...I've seen Christians respond worse towards Muslims.

Get off the high horse.
Then how can they call themselves Christ-ians And how can those muslims that say these things call themselves true Muslims/Islam?
Though Jesus did call specific people "names" in the NT.

Matt 23: 15 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. 32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' [guilt.] 33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
 
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PaladinValer said:
Whoopie doo...I've seen Christians respond worse towards Muslims.

Get off the high horse.

Craig is not a christian, and just because someone calls themselves a christian doesn't mean they are one, who's side are you on anyway?
 
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BigChrisfilm said:
Crraig NEVER admitted on live radio that he hasn't read the Qur'an.
Right you claim criag did not admit to not reading the, however my Mate Jalal mentioned it many times on the show and if it was not true Crig would have refuted it.Just like if some one claimed i have never read the bible after they read my book I would deny their claim.Anyway jala is amate of mine and through an Email i can be sure from his encounter with Craig whether he read the Quran and also Jalal wrote a book called "prophet of mercy" to counter Craig's book, now I am sure that inorder to counter someone's book one must have read the book and you can tell when you read it whether he has read the Quran or he does not know what he is talking about.All he could have done was take a few verses vomitted by Orientalists about Islam and not even check, the authenticty if these claims and added them in his book.Had he read the whole Quran and then worked on his book hee would have a different approach.
When Jalal asked him Just one verse to quote or give reference etc he was unable to do so.Now come on.I have written loads of Article and a book.i have referrence, I have references from Intereviews, dates, etc,I have verses, commentaries from Christian scholars and biblical scholars of these verses etc.If I was to debate someone I am sure I would have been armed to the teeth with all my references.Craig had Zilch,Zero.Just a big lying mouth and Arrogance.
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Aka james the Just
 
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Craig is not a christian, and just because someone calls themselves a christian doesn't mean they are one, who's side are you on anyway?
Whoopie doo...I've seen Christians respond worse towards Muslims.
Get off the high horse.
S Walch said:
He's on the Anglican side.
 
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yaqovzadeek said:
and also Jalal wrote a book called "prophet of mercy" to counter Craig's book

How many lies were within it?

From beginning to end?

Pretty much like the Freke and Gandy book: The Christ Myths.

A bunch of...(A word I wont repeat) from beginning to end.
 
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S Walch said:
Anglican would the group that formed due to Henry VIII of England.

Historically wrong. Henry VIII didn't initiate the church; he simply declared the pope to be no longer Anglicans' first-among-equals.

A denom I used to be a member of.

Then might I ask why you made such a gross error?
 
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PaladinValer said:
Historically wrong. Henry VIII didn't initiate the church; he simply declared the pope to be no longer Anglicans' first-among-equals.



Then might I ask why you made such a gross error?
Do anglicans really have "gay" Priests?
 
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Do anglicans really have "gay" Priests?
S Walch said:
Lamb, just google Gene Robinson.
Hmmm. I don't even know how to comment on that.

(Young) Romans 1:27 and in like manner also the males having left the natural use of the female, did burn in their longing toward one another; males with males working shame, and the recompense of their error that was fit, in themselves receiving.

Matt 23:15 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees [anglicans?], hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
 
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Wow. You left LLofJ speechless!?
 
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