Thoughts ...

FanthatSpark · Jun 12, 2015

Post#878 , 8 being perfection + 1 and 7 being perfection the placement of that profoundness is awesome . Loaded it is with deep reasoning and or process.
Unique in perception in truth for those that functioned in default setting (Like me), not unique in the language of truth combined to before mentioned placement . The woman perceived as imagination that which was given, this one hears truth to apply to self. As one writes this another powerful statement ..."This is good", where God traversed the time line in an instant
where this creation/us will see Spirit through default setting experienced (major concentration there, in darkness to see the light) to seek love, give love, think in love (imagination included ) and love as being will manifest out of us in purity of intent to each other like God is to us = Grace... .

x141 · Jun 13, 2015

Perception is everything.

Thought is an interesting thing, by thought kingdoms are built, and by thought kingdoms are torn down.

It is a truth applicable to all, bar none.

To say I have no sin (I see), is the same as to prove that you are, it is an eating to become (those who say I will not drink have drank already, which concerns the process of thought in us (there is an image outside of us (as well as an image inside of us) that becomes the seed), it is a form of robbing God, or who you are (by taking thought), it in type is as the death of innocence, it is the lie that is outside of the city (which is a truth of tabernacles (as opposed to Pentecost which equates to the wilderness, or what was in Noah's ark (as the bread of two days), having found as a feasting on this reality as a truth that has always been.

The Bible in one view is the journey about one's change of mind as to who God is, which is a coming out of the fear (an eating of a tree) that began the journey.

Mankind must collectively learn to rule over their own soul, by entering into her as the one who came down and out prepared as a bride adorned for her husband (in one form, the rest for the soul Jesus spoke of).

The soul (woman at the well) comes to an admitting that she has no husband (who has had five husbands), it is another form of the cross, or the feast of Passover, a truth of consciousness where an end becomes a beginning, that always is (was the desired end concerning the purpose that God purposed in himself, in whom we live and have our being (whether we are yet (will be) conscious of it or not.

It is irony that Peter began to measure the outpouring of the spirit on the very day he was seemingly (journey) poured out.

If he did not go, he would not come ...

x141 · Jun 13, 2015

Knowledge does not save one, but salvation is not separate from knowledge.

x141 · Jun 13, 2015

The seed the son of man sows is God, and salvation a word like unto it; it is an attempt to define what cannot be in relationship to self.

Noxot · Jun 13, 2015

but this dialogue is eternal and infinite, forever has the Trinity been enraptured with self. being overcome with love is the reason God sits on a thone. humans fall to the ground dead, not having time to find a seat.

FanthatSpark · Jun 13, 2015

mayhap misconstruing ,

I know the language is in concentrated measure referring to post 882. If one must take a thought let it be in love ?

Noxot · Jun 13, 2015

hopefully I can read everyones posts. I have been too lazy to keep up with this thread to the fullness of it :S

here is something I typed to a few atheist of differing personalities and then decided not to post, because there is no point. I don't know if it is possible to convince someone fully if there is a God or not:

...I think one of the greatest mysteries is why some humans don't believe that there is a God. what I see all around me at its core is some kind of intelligence. the power of minds in general could turn this entire universe into something so different than we now know it to be today. mind + goodness is the most powerful thing in all of reality that I know of, it's just that humans don't have enough intelligence to yet show this proof.

you both should at least be able to say something like it is plausible that a vastly intelligent being would be capable of generating new universes that could form complex life forms such as humans.

at the very least you should say that it is possible to create life in other worlds with good enough technology. or that unicorns can exist in 100 years or less, hell they could probably create them today.

so mental capacity and imagination are a kind of cap for what you think is possible and what you think is impossible. you literally limited yourself to the possibilities of this universe when all you go by are the laws of this universe. the human mind is something beyond anything else in this universe. on what level can anything be compared to that of a human mind?

so you want to know God according to rules you created and based upon certain rules in this universe. then find him in those things. otherwise stop saying you can't see him. the most amazing thing of all is either that God can blind himself from himself or that God could even create things that appear to be other than himself

x141 · Jun 14, 2015

FanthatSpark said:
mayhap misconstruing ,

I know the language is in concentrated measure referring to post 882. If one must take a thought let it be in love ?

Therefore the father loveth me, because I lay down my life that I might pick it up again ...

FanthatSpark said:
mayhap misconstruing ,

I know the language is in concentrated measure referring to post 882. If one must take a thought let it be in love ?

How many different ways can a truth be approached (in words) that is found in the moment …

To take thought is exemplified in the those who heard Jesus speak (And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?), whose response was the same as Jesus’ response would have been (when he was tempted in the wilderness), had he eaten, it is a gaining of the soul which is the loss of it (If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth) a truth relational to soul, which is the kingdom of God Jesus preached.

Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life/soul, that I might take it again (there is a laying down of the soul as there is a picking back up of it again) which becomes the well watered garden, or This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden (Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert/ Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert/ He that findeth his life/soul shall lose it: and he that loseth his life/soul for my sake shall find it.), which is a similar statement as, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

The motive of love is itself; a purpose purposed in its/himself; and as he is (I am) so are we.

x141 · Jun 14, 2015

To the clean all things are clean is beyond process (good and evil), something without thought you are. This is to see as he sees, or to be raised up to live in his sight (a would you be made whole, said in reference to two sons).

Noxot · Jun 15, 2015

humans who run away from their own freedom become slaves to their own freedom.

x141 · Jun 15, 2015

Noxot said:
humans who run away from their own freedom become slaves to their own freedom.

As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.

Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

x141 · Jun 16, 2015

I wanted to say this as a question ...

Why was a lamb, a shepherd, and to eat with a Hebrew an abomination to an Egyptian? And what does this say as being a part of the law that teaches us about the process that is happening in us?

x141 · Jun 16, 2015

duplicate ... pun intended.

2KnowHim · Jun 16, 2015

x141 said:
One the most powerful statements in scripture is they have become as one of us, which is both good and evil, that one through consciousness must enter into the consensus of. God began with one and narrowed it back down to one (which can be seen in things such as Abraham’s reasoning with God over two cites.

God looked out and found nothing outside of himself; all in a moment of the consciousness/spirit that he is loosed in the statement I am. In truth, by the same means we are brought into captivity we are loosed from captivity again.

They would have had no sin if he had not said (which can be seen in what Paul’s words over five became; which is the same truth that words “let there be light becomes,” a truth separate from self, or a word that departed the mouth. Without a Judas/serpent/Dan/Cain/Esau nothing happens, it is the multiplication of children.

We are being brought into the same consensus that God came to the moment it began.

You are what you are called out of as much as you are what call’s you out.

Truth is beyond good and evil, one must come out of the field to come home.

Concerning consciousness, a word that departs the mouth becomes a serpent.

Imagination is the most powerful thing on the planet ...

The woman thou gavest me ...

WOW!! This is Amazing!!! I and Jugg both, this morning finially come to see what you see, (as He sees.)
How long have you known this????

We have both read this and liked the sound but did not completely see, UNTIL NOW!!! And it was so neat the way He brought us to it. We were talking about Judas and the sop and relating it to things we are coming to see with the soul/woman/life......and it hit us like lightening at the same time.....this was something He had to do in Himself before it ever began, before ......and then I remembered what you said about our words that depart the mouth become a serpent/ and Jugg said when He breathed into Adam it was a picture of the sop------What you need to do, do quickly.....WOW!!

jugghead · Jun 16, 2015

x141 said:
I wanted to say this as a question ...

Why was a lamb, a shepherd, and to eat with a Hebrew an abomination to an Egyptian? And what does this say as being a part of the law that teaches us about the process that is happening in us?

A lamb is a picture of a follower to that which wants to rule over another
The shephard is a picture of that which takes care and watches over another rather than that which rules over another
The Hebrew is a picture of being a people of God rather than one who rules over a people

That which holds another captive cannot be one with the captive, to eat with what you hold captive is to raise the captive to the same level as he who holds the captive ..... which cannot happen in the mindset of "ruling over" rather than "ruling with"

Until the two peoples (Hebrew/Egyptian) become one in Him they cannot work together as One Son in Him

I may still miss the big picture you see (but may not) but this is what I see in this moment

FredVB · Jun 16, 2015

x141 said:
I wanted to say this as a question ... Why was a lamb, a shepherd, and to eat with a Hebrew an abomination to an Egyptian? And what does this say as being a part of the law that teaches us about the process that is happening in us?

The Egyptians at the time were with their culture that held some things to be abominable thoroughly full with idolatry, and antithetical to the perfection with simplicity in living that was meant for all of us from Yahweh God. This way is generally a lost truth. And the law though being something to work at was simpler without any sort of idolatry.

x141 · Jun 16, 2015

Possessing the mind of Christ is a continual opening.

x141 · Jun 16, 2015

FredVB said:
And the law though being something to work at was simpler without any sort of idolatry.

To Jesus even the Psalms were law ...

jugghead · Jun 16, 2015

x141 said:
Possessing the mind of Christ is a continual opening.

"All things" become light, there is no more darkness

And I will requote 2knowhim ....... when He becomes your all .... all displays Him

jugghead · Jun 16, 2015

to put to death that which was in us from the beginning is to know Him before the world was

seeing the process being fulfilled in us is to see what is finished in Him

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