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Should one expect to be be filled with Light even though there eye is not single on the Light that they are.

The new testament is every bit the bondage that the old testament was to Israel.

We have turned our beloved into a beast who we wander after even though he has come into his garden.
 
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to hold on - let go
to know - don't know

be free for God. be a virgin. let God be your teacher. seek not to know but to be humble before God who shall exalt you far above what you could understand and will. to be utterly with God is what salvation and life is really about and if only people knew and are close to God... all evils and suffering and hardships would vanish from this world.

it is only bondage because we are bondage... that is why we stumble over the things of God

Ps 57:1-7 (YLT)
To the Overseer. --`Destroy not.' --A secret treasure of David, in his fleeing from the face of Saul into a cave. Favour me, O God, favour me, For in Thee is my soul trusting, And in the shadow of Thy wings I trust, Until the calamities pass over. I call to God Most High, To God who is perfecting for me. He sendeth from the heaven, and saveth me, He reproached--who is panting after me. Selah. God sendeth forth His kindness and His truth. My soul is in the midst of lions, I lie down among flames--sons of men, Their teeth are a spear and arrows, And their tongue a sharp sword. Be Thou exalted above the heavens, O God, Above all the earth Thine honour. A net they have prepared for my steps, Bowed down hath my soul, They have digged before me a pit, They have fallen into its midst. Selah. Prepared is my heart, O God, Prepared is my heart, I sing and praise.


every thought that trys to distract us from God digs its own pit. every thought that trys to lead us away from our emptying of our own will so that Gods will may be done turns into an act of worship when we let it go. no matter if our enemies are on every side, the Lord is with us and on our side. in our reaching to God in all that we are.... by pouring ourselves out to God we have our understanding and ect. poured out to God and God shows us things that no eye has seen except he who gives to us understanding. if we do not know, we know that God knows. we want our conversation to be in heaven and even above heaven, in God. and so we deny ourselves that we may be with God who is always with us. we are truly only ourselves and spiritually sane when we are with God. rather than falling into the pit that our enemies have dug for us we find in our persecution a chance to love God. discipline is nothing other than loving God and seeking after him with all that we are. freedom and grace work together in love and God desires our seeking him. this is why he gave us freedom... that we may freely be with him just as he is freely with us.

countless songs God has given to me forever. all we must do is abide in him and with him and we find the true reality- the kingdom of heaven. you can see everyone working together only in heaven. you find yourself with people and you find people with you and you know that there is only one family in eternity and it is everlasting joy. saints dead according to the physical reality and alive both dwell with us in spirit and everything is an endless joy and rejoicing with God and his children. OR you can live in hell and you will notice just how much of a hell it is the more you experience the kingdom of heaven and then see only the darkness of this insane reality. choose which ever you want though we should all know that God desires all of us to abide with him and that we stop torturing ourselves and others and himself.

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here are some quotes from a 7th century saint named saint Issac:

As a man whose head is under water cannot inhale pure air, so a man whose thoughts are plunged into the cares of this world cannot absorb the sensations of that new world.

To bear a grudge and pray, means to sow seed on the sea and expect a harvest.

A small but persistent discipline is a great force; for a soft drop tailing persistently, hollows out hard rock.

The key to Divine gifts is given to the heart by love of neighbor, and, in proportion to the heart's freedom from the bonds of the flesh, the door of knowledge begins to open before it.

God is not One who requites evil, but who sets evil right.

Paradise is the love of God, wherein is the enjoyment of all blessedness.

The person who lives in love reaps the fruit of life from God, and while yet in this world, even now breathes the air of the resurrection.

In love did God bring the world into existence; in love is God going to bring it to that wondrous transformed state, and in love will the world be swallowed up in the great mystery of the One who has performed all these things; in love will the whole course of the governance of creation be finally comprised.

If zeal had been appropriate for putting humanity right, why did God the Word clothe himself in the body, using gentleness and humility in order to bring the world back to his Father?

I give praise to your holy Nature, Lord, for you have made my nature a sanctuary for your hiddenness and a tabernacle for your holy mysteries, a place where you can dwell, and a holy temple for your Divinity.
 
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Words fail to define where he has lead me, which is compounded daily by this same manner of the overflowing it is to my soul. And for you, dearest to God's heart?

Having a rough time, to tell the truth. I'm thinking that holing up in a cave in Latvia sounds appealing...
 
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Having a rough time, to tell the truth. I'm thinking that holing up in a cave in Latvia sounds appealing...

mmm ... being broken or being crushed is never fun when it is happening, but it's not supposed to be ... I have decided that I will only drink of the river that flows from within me. There is no other path that leads to life, and another I can not follow (it is a question another would ask, What is your beloved anymore than any other beloved, but can never be answered by words but only through the experience of the one whose beloved it is).

Every wandering begins with a thought that was a seed from without the garden of our mind. Don't eat, and the process ends, and this becomes, before it ever began. It is a truth that applied to Jesus as much as it applied to God, therefore through association, as much as it applies to us.

But know you know all these things ... every word God gives us drives us to the wilderness with the intent that we would learn what obedience means concerning thought; we do not eat to be, and we do not eat to prove that we are.

The truth of self is ever present as an inheritance that has always been ours, it is the kingdom appointed as the good pleasure of our father, which is only brought under subjection when we eat of our own reasoning.

I think of the eyes that see often ... : )
 
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mmm ... being broken or being crushed is never fun when it is happening, but it's not supposed to be ...

Yes, I have learned this over and over. Finally I learned to be kind to those who are being crushed...an amazingly difficult lesson for me!


I feel distracted by so many things, inside and out. There is nothing left that can shake my faith in our Father (I've been shaken enough!), but there is plenty that shakes my patience for man (though I suspect the two are deeply related). How wonderful it would be if everyone could just love each other. Why must we be so stingy? What is there to gain? Would it kill us to just stop killing each other? Yet we face death all day long.

On the other hand, I know too well that only death teaches that lesson. I wouldn't wish the schooling I've gotten on my worst enemy! Yet we all face the Teacher in the end.


Your kindness means so much to me, brother. I'm glad the Lord crossed our paths.
 
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Your kindness means so much to me, brother. I'm glad the Lord crossed our paths.

Angels are everywhere ... (but not according to the perception that we have formed of them based on images given to us by our five senses/husbands).

When mankind stops speaking words of warfare all warfare will end, and this is boundless in it's truth as who we all are as the offspring's of God.


The struggle with the thought of not staying is the only struggle I have left, but it is no longer sin to me, as all things, it is an inheritance given.
 
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That is a tough one. Much easier to come to grips with in theory than in practice (and who can have any practice?)
 
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Excellence of knowledge flows like a stream from within each of us unhindered by the soul that searches to obtain it.
 
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Jesus prayed to his Father that he not take us out of the world and so I guess this is our life we must live for God in this place. I guess God has many plans for us in this world and thought it good for us to remain here. even if we are prefect as Jesus... God still saw reason to dwell with humanity as a human. it hurts being to some degree absent from God for a little while but think of all the people who suffer this same thing in a greater degree than we do. how evil it would be to flee away from the very ones God came to save. when you become a christian there is not supposed to be only safety and peace but there also comes a great struggle and burden that will always overwhelm us if we find ourselves straying away from our eternal life and yet if we can bare our darkness with God in faith, hope, and love then our pain will not be what it would be. but we are blinded from the goodness of God because God deserves a chance to be trusted of our own in our greatest darkness. God deserves our love whether we see Gods love or not but the torment it brings to us is something that I don't think anyone can truly bare. that is why our answer to God is death and a cross and we know that Gods answer to us is the resurrection.

everyone bares the entire world inside of themselves but there is one in us greater than the world.

I now see a bit clearer than yesterday that I need to fully embrace the cross that God may more fully embrace me. this darkness that I bare is for my good and not for my evil. I walk around blind and weak, not knowing what to do so very often but if everyone is this way then I can at least know we all share the same burden of this world that Jesus loved and suffered for. in experiencing this world and partaking of being a slave I learn to accuse less and I hunger for mercy more than I used to. I feel that I am nothing more than a fallen angel who is the very one that hurt people in the first place. my answer would be to destroy myself for what I have done to everyone but it seems that God loves more than my own condemnation can and seeing this love I know that I can embrace the true destruction of myself rather than the false destruction of myself. I hope I will stop being so foolish... this folly that turns away from the one I should never forget.
 
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That is a tough one. Much easier to come to grips with in theory than in practice (and who can have any practice?)

One whose soul is his servant is one whose soul has no opinion of itself.

It is the thought that is less than one that we are carried away by.

What makes the time to come come, is the truth that is found as being present in the moment.


We are our brothers keeper when we tend and keep our own garden, which equates to the objective of the chosen fast.
 
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This was my reply to an email that I received (at bottom) yesterday from a friend in Europe (thought I'd show how the dialogue surrounding us is all leading to the same truth of why we are in flesh, and the obedience we are to learn by being in it).

Google post today ...

Excellence of knowledge flows like a stream from within each of us unhindered by the soul that searches to obtain it.

CF reply/post today ...

One whose soul is his servant is one whose soul has no opinion of itself.

It is the thought that is less than one that we are carried away by.

What makes the time to come come, is the truth that is found as being present in the moment.

We are our brother's keeper when we tend and keep our own garden, which equates to the objective of the chosen fast.

All these statements are the same statement from different vantage points (the same truth Tolle is speaking of, or Einstein when he said that "the intellect has little to do on the road to discovery. There comes a leap in consciencous, call it inturion, or what you will, the solution comes to you and you don't know how or why."), it is where the language of God (and the son/God we are) to us (or to our soul) begins. This is why ones beloved who is more than any other's beloved can only be understood by the one whose beloved it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dean [mailto:uk]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:07 AM
To: in1x141@gmail.com
Subject: thoughts?

Eckhart Tolle How To Stop Thinking And Negative Thinking ...



► 11:10► 11:10


Eckhart Tolle How To Stop Thinking And Negative Thinking YouTube - YouTube
 
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when you love a person you find them in yourself. ah the layers of even this human mind and its recorded information that it experienced in this world... how beautiful each little thing that constructs your beloved bride, it is all for you who are beloved to all of us, God. I loved those that love him and I find them with him and I myself with him. what do you want me to be God? my relationship with God must be perfect, must be real. I will be your city and I will be myself for you. what is it that you desire God? are we not all much more than a universe with you? what shall I do with this human body you gave me in this temporary world we experience together? what new things can we bring about, what manners of loving all and one another can we do in this world? i want to become whatever you want me to become. this freedom that you have given me is all for you. my soul... I do not want it if you will not be with me. to fully give myself to you forever and to be with you always is my desire. I make room for my beloved and his children for what is life in this world that is myself without you and your kingdom? now if only it may be completed on the outside, if only everyone could experience your love... we can all stop acting like strangers in this reality.

you want to know what i bring to this world? I will bring spiritual insanity, for nothing should prevent me from loving God. everything must be sacrificed. let us be together for I do not wish to wait til tomorrow to be with my beloved. I will realize myself but only if it is with you, my Lord and far more than my Lord. I know who I am, I am everyone and I am the proof that everyone loves you.
 
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This is my confidence, that all will know him, from the least to the greatest. That God will finish what he started.

I will live it within until it becomes this without.
 
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A reply to a friend over the question of What is the wilderness I am coming out of ....

What I am about to write (you won’t hear in a church, or get in a seminary, or attain to at a university;, only the spirit in you reveals the truth both in and to you, and this in one form relates to the truth that the city’s (heavenly Jerusalem) light is, in respect to the river that flows out of this throne, where the light of this city is that there is no temple, or something that separates us from the love of the truth) and relates to all of us as the Adam at the beginning of the Bible, where God starts out with one (that became two) and then narrows it back down to one again (or where two become one again) which speaks to the process happening in us, and the way, truth and life that Jesus is to us who fulfilled the pattern without eating of his own reasoning, represented in him by the words that he heard (this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased) that drove him to the wilderness for the temptation to eat of his own reasoning, just as it had happened to Adam (Adam being in picture the image of God and the woman his soul and the wilderness he entered that his soul gave him as a perception he lived in, which relates to God’s three questions, Where art thou, Who told you, and Have you eaten.)

In scripture (though this is found in the whole of creation as well) things equate to truths that deal with the kingdom of God, which is just another way of saying God’s perception of the truth of h).self and is the very same kingdom God appointed to us out of his good pleasure to the end that he would fill all things with himself, which you see in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream where a stone becomes a mountain and fills the whole earth (even though this glory has always filled the earth as it has filled this temple that we are in whom we live and move and have our being, wherein the treasure has been hidden (a mystery) from the beginning and inclusive of all).

Nebuchadnezzar made an image out of the dream God gave him which brought him to the end of himself found in the seven years where he became no different than a beast of the field, though his wisdom in the end was much like Solomon’s, or the prodigal son (when he came to himself).

God called Jesus out of Egypt (as he calls every son (no gender not an issue) who was the truth of what Israel was a picture of. The same truth of the woman that comes out of a man is the same truth of Israel coming out of Egypt, which reveals the feminine or the soul in relationship to knowledge where through disobedience in thought sets the foundation of the world as both good and evil (which is the death of innocence, or in picture the lamb that was slain). In this is the picture of the two sons which is manifested as two mountains in the wilderness (which equates to the feast of Pentecost but in relationship to our reasoning and not that of God’s who sees light and darkness as the same), where Israel wanders around for forty years between these two fruits of a tree until all the men/thoughts of warfare die out.

Passover equates to Egypt as the wilderness equates to Pentecost and the land to Tabernacles (and to name a few) you find this same picture in Abraham’s three men, or Saul, David, and Solomon, or the outer court, holy place, most holy place (of Moses’ tabernacle, or Solomon’s temple, which equate to wisdom, knowledge, and understanding, or spirit, soul and body (which the first representation of the order of this was an Ishmael (or body/saul first), but these all depict the process of the truth being revealed in us of the son that we are). Jesus kept the feasts (which like the creative days (seven) there are seven feasts (rest of a son) within nine months (a birthing of a son and the rest of God, or where God rests) but the year he kept them in was a year defined as acceptable (or this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased).

Let me set this out, that God’s rest is us as he is ours, where we walk as one or where he walks in us, where our thoughts are his thoughts and not a voice that is separate from us as it was to Adam when he ate of his own reasoning and became afraid (which can be seen at the mountain in the wilderness which was supposed to be the mountain of blessing that Paul likened to Hagar and her son, which is just another way of saying our perception of the son that we are), even though he heard the voice of the Lord walking in the cool/spirit, of the Day (the garden representing his/our soul). We must understand that the good as well as the evil both lead to death of self in the day (or in the light) that we eat of it, which is to say a light of our own making which gain deals with our own reasoning based on something outside if us.

There are many views of the feast of Pentecost, which the first picture of this is found in the words, Let there be light, where a duality is manifested, where darkness becomes evil by default when God calls the light good. The first Pentecost like the first son is an Ishmael, or Esau, or Adam, Cain, Saul, etc. (rejected, and whose son is not accepted (which comes in the feminine and relates to our soul as the masculine relates to the image/seed our soul is impregnated by.

The land that one lives as a stranger in is their own soul, where there is no rest, but a wandering around between two fruits of a tree, or two mountains, two sons, which is the picture of an inheritance divided, due to our perception that we are not one with our Father and that all that our Father has, has always been ours. It is a perception seeded by an image without us and speaks to the garden as both God’s and ours, the difference being that God’s garden is a garden enclosed, it is not seeded from without, God finding no truth outside of himself, and his children being no less so, which truth Jesus came to declare and when he left the declaration of where this Christ/son/kingdom would be.

Adam became lost in his own reasoning (as we do) because he did not pick up his cross which is the only way to find the knowledge that leads to understanding of the truth of self, whom only the one we came out of can define.

In all this I have barely begun to scratch the surface of how to enter into the most holy place of your being and remain though it is found in the first commandment as it was in Jesus' word of Take no thought, or pick up your cross.
 
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A reply to a question of whether I believe Mary was a virgin ...

I don't hold any view of it ... to me it's not about whether she was or was not, it is about what she is in picture in relationship to this son in me (the son that I am), as the woman/soul that births the truth.

Jesus said if I do not go he will not come ... which is much the same as when he told Mary (whom seven devils were cast out of) not to touch me, the garden scenario was playing itself out again for a woman and a tree. If she had touched him this image would have ever been locked in her mind as something she could never attain to, it would have been the way of a young man with a maid, or a serpent on a rock.

We have to forsake the physical Christ (Bible/book of life/word/scroll) to embrace the Christ in us as us, like a woman/soul desolate that has more children than the one that has a husband ...
 
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I do agree with you and since I said this I can say that...

we never forsake Jesus Christ because Jesus and Christ can not be separated. duality is a description of the Son of God and it makes sense because he is the second person of the Trinity. in this true duality there is perfect unity of God and man. he did not ever say "forsake me" but rather he said "take the log out of your eye and follow me" which is kind of funny seeing how the cross is wood and thus we understand that the religion he set up in this world was going to become a log in the eyes of many just as he himself is a stumbling block to the disobedient.

God demands there be a difference between men and himself and this is why we are told by the past mystics and saints that we have a different nature than Gods nature. this knowledge of itself became a stumbling block just like everything else does because of the fallen logic, foolish souls, and non-active spiritual life we tend to have.

we do not forsake Jesus Christ rather we more fully embrace as we go deeper into the truth as we follow him... seeing as he told us that he will prepare a place for us and that there are many things he wanted to tell us but we could not at that time grasp. God has to adapt his religion to the multitude of people and so the truth by the nature of the multiplicity of where people are at means that the truth must descend to the pits of humanity. this does not mean he desires that we abide in the pit for very long because we are shown that Jesus Christ went to sheol and many people were resurrected with him.

what will happen in Christianity is that the deeper depths of the Spirit are going to surmount everything that the flesh has put into bondage because the flesh can decay but Spirit is eternal. we shall learn how to truly worship God in spirit and in truth if we are willing but so many of us bare a huge burden. it is impossible without God even though God requires something out of us humans.

there are many truly spiritual teachers in the last 2000ish years of Christianity and they taught truly but they often had to adapt their teachings to their surroundings and adapt according to the types of souls they were addressing and they had to becomes certain kinds of meals for many. this was the will of God for them. but very often they saw and knew that God alone is the one who does the chief work as the Teacher and they also perceived quite clearly that God can easily make them to understand the saints words better then they themselves could ever make someone understand. God requires of us that we keep our freedom and so he uses the saints who are willing to attempt to reach those who for some reason or another are not able to fly very high and so Jesus Christ becomes to us angels descending and ascending, going where he may reach us and heal us and assist us in flying higher and making us fully mature in the spirit... of which I am not and though a baby inherits all things I still have to grow. it is not as if there is a difference ( concerning how much God loves a person and even concerning a type of merit on a certain level ) between the mature and the baby. they are the same person, they are Gods child regardless of age and regardless of where they are at.

but when we do not understand things according to the spiritual understanding we tend to stumble over things like a little one who is not good at walking yet and God can (especially to us who have fallen into many kinds of sins ) appear to be very frightening and hard at times ( due to our own hardness ). but Gods hammer breaks rock if we are willing. I get tired of learning the hard way >.<
 
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