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toLiJC · Feb 11, 2015

Noxot said:
the darkness is freedom, it was made by God denying himself out of love. but the darkness, in being denied, has lost it's enlightenment. and so out of darkness may come anything since it is irrational. from it comes good and evil, though it would not be so if it was divine. but the darkness is not evil of itself, it is because of love and desire inside of God. darkness is a means of God revealing himself within himself, he finds his other and his other finds him and they together make the kingdom of heaven.

the "darkness", dude, is the negative aspect/side of the divine(spiritual), and it is uncaused as an existence, God never created it, it is infinitely existing and cannot stop existing even for a while, it is the primary cause and source of each evil (thing), that is why it is written: "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."(1 John 1:5), otherwise God would have been unrighteous and sinful, not the main God of the universe (which is boundless to us the humans), so there are some things that no one and nothing created them, but they are absolutely uncaused, and these are: God the Father, the "darkness", the "water(s)(i.e. the uncaused substance/things)"(Genesis 1:2), the universe, and the time as an incessantly [FONT=arial, sans-serif]running[/FONT] period, that is why it is written:

Genesis 1:1-5 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."

so, as it is evident from the written about the genesis, the first things that God ever created were the "heaven" and the "earth", then the third thing that He created was the "light", but, as it is shown, the "darkness" and the "water(s)" already were in the universe, the universe itself also was already existing, also pay attention that it is written how all the manifestations of the "darkness" will be locked in the so-called place "lake of fire" without being able to get out of there till the end of the eternity (Revelation 19:20, 20:10, 20:14-15)

Noxot said:
spiritual iniquity is anything less than God. you can not have self-love unless you count God as yourself as well, otherwise it is satanic, blind, evil that rejects God. you can not truly reject yourself if you accept God, because you reject yourself that you may be with God, thus all you rejected was anything that rejected God. because God loved us so much that he denied himself, because he had to give us freedom. but he wants a loving reflection as well. he wants our love. he deserves our love. we want his love. we deserve his love.

what's the matter with this?!, the faith that is shown in the biblical scriptures is not like yoga of krishna, only such as krishna prophesied/preached about such a self that should (ostensibly) be directed/set towards itself and some strange god?!?!, a human cannot reject the true God unless it begins to commit great enough spiritual iniquity in the form of occultism and/or idolatry, because exactly the spiritual iniquity can separate the person, that does it, from God, the physical infliction of evil also can more or less separate the human, that does it, from God

Noxot said:
evil is the manifestation that says "this is what i am without you God". if it was okay and good then God would let it be forever, but it is not so, because in eternity there are three revelations and from before eternity God saw it was not good that man be alone nor did God want to be alone, because God loves man so much that he became man and he wants us to become his son in freedom, not by just necessity and lack of freedom, because if an accidental good was good enough then it would have remained forever but since God has other plans, namely, that love and freedom can not be separated, for it is unworthy of God. but God deserves to be loved freely because he freely loves.

and who walk(s) without the true Lord God in addition to the spiritual offenders as well as the great physical evil-causers?!, and what is love for God but to love your neighbor(s)(cohabitant(s))?!

1 John 2:3-7 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked... Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.",

1 John 4:20-21 "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also."

Noxot said:
but the sacrifice was his emptying out of himself that we become revealed within him, since we have always been super-united to God. it is strange to speak about God since his processes are not logical, as they are just what he does and is. it is reality. it is not a secondary image, though it comes out that way.

the acts of the true Lord God are quite logical and explicable, but it is another matter whether you understand the biblical scripture(s) right(ly), because there are many biblical terms/words and expressions that indicate very discreet and special spiritual concepts, including names of cities, rivers, mountains, persons, etc.

Noxot said:
it is absurd to believe that a kingdom of evil would be forever, because it never was as God and his other would make sure of that, even if it would be allowed for the sake of freedom for a season. only the kingdom of heaven is eternal. but we have to each pick up our cross, be free and find God and be with him. because evil will be until it goes away. but there is no doubt, it was destroyed, it is contained within systems of creation, since that is as powerful as it could ever be, for God is not created, he is the creator. but evil is the degradation of the good creation, and thus it can only 'exist' if it has some goodness to parasite and distort. but goodness would never ruin itself if it was fully aware and with God.

the God/good does not need the wicked/evil, but the wicked needs God to parasitize His Kingdom

Blessings

x141 · Feb 15, 2015

When one is approved over another it creates disparity between the two which directly references God as to a work he had finished as such in the one who would divide.

Job8 · Feb 15, 2015

x141 said:
He calls every son out of Egypt.

As long as we are clear that (a) not all men are "sons of God" -- only those who have been born again (Jn 1:12,13), and (b) "Egypt" represents the world and the things that are of the world (1 Jn 2:15-17).

"Out of Egypt have I called my Son" was a prophetic statement applicable to Christ (Mt 2:15).

x141 · Feb 15, 2015

Job8 said:
As long as we are clear that (a) not all men are "sons of God" -- only those who have been born again (Jn 1:12,13), and (b) "Egypt" represents the world and the things that are of the world (1 Jn 2:15-17).

"Out of Egypt have I called my Son" was a prophetic statement applicable to Christ (Mt 2:15).

You must be clear for your sake, not mine ... and you also must be careful not to build a city out of any one truth (or keep the manna over a day) or your journey in ends until the image you have made out of the truth is taken out of the way.

Nevertheless ... indeed it was applicable to Jesus, but if it is only applicable to Jesus then there will be no other sons (no gender implied) which this is as a baptism whereby we are baptized and a cup every son drinks of) to which he questioned Nicodemus over (being born again (which only allows one to see but not to enter) and is connected to where one who is born of the spirit comes from and where he is gong which makes where he is a present truth as Jesus had stated of himself) as being the earthly knowledge, and that how could it be that he had no understanding of it, being a master in Israel, even though it can be seen in myriads of forms painted in picture form throughout Scripture that Nicodemus might have actually gleaned it from if he were not a man (or in one form, a beast of the field).

Consider Egypt in the light of what one overcomes that is see in the brazen laver, or what hangs on a pole/tree.

x141 · Feb 15, 2015

Just some thoughts …

The words that came from the living soul (seeded by the narrative of the world,) of “What is truth?” was followed by the choosing of a thief which the intent to show (like Lot’s choice did, or Abraham when there was famine in the land of promise, or the feminine, Sarah by Hagar, Rachel by Bilhah, or Uzzah when he put forth his hand at a threshingfloor) truth is relative to perception as the sea is to a fish (pun intended), or the air we breathe is to us (as to what these things are in the language of God that depict the same truth in a different relational forms as do all things).

The knowledge of the understanding of it is that if you did not come from there, you cannot get there that the Truth is relational to perception just as the woman is relational to the feasts or table prepared, as was the case with Rebecca and the deception Isaac ate of, his soul deceiving him as much as the woman did for Adam, or Cain’s did to him (remembering that she was his helpmeet from God who first revealed his nakedness) which progresses in its forms from there, and how they relate to the multiplication of the same process until the sons become as two mountains in a wilderness that collectively one chosen nation (just as a Lucifer/Esau/Saul/Judas/etc. were chosen) wander between provoking God by their mindsets/images ten times (law of their mind) in a second forty which is the same picture in Adam when he became two, the first forty the masculine the second forty the feminine.

Though I’ve used very little examples, this same truth is woven like an intertwined tapestry that neither has beginning or end, it multiplying upon itself to the revealing of the same one truth and more akin to a coat without seam when the garden remains enclosed, or it becomes a revealing of one’s nakedness as a garment being parted into four heads.

x141 · Feb 15, 2015

In reference to the language of God, you must follow the prescribed spiritual anecdote when bitten by a serpent in the wilderness.

x141 · Feb 20, 2015

John was right when he said we have no need that any man teach us, but until we come to the truth of this it will always be as stolen bread to us, and more akin to living in a land that is not our own.

x141 · Feb 21, 2015

(Eye that is single ...) Everyone has a voice that speaks from within them and that their soul must become silent to hear. To enter into this realm of thought, is to enter into Christ, or the kingdom of God, or in the feminine (from the view of soul), heaven. It is an internal truth of two that become one by a giving up on the soul as the source of the truth, which makes it a reflection of it, as our soul is populated by the words (or we are covered by the leaves of this tree (collectively nations healed by these leaves), through the perception of the seed/word/image of the truth, which all of it is internal that becomes the outward expression of who you are in relationship to God. It is this fellowship we are all called to as a present truth we live in (and see from), and go no more out of. What the testimony of Jesus was to Christ is what the testimony of Jesus Christ is to us, it is something we possess. Jesus believed as he talked to Nicodemus, that this was where he was; which within this is the greater truth of the perception of a glory that was before the world was which to us presently; where we can behold his glory as something we are, therefore not bound by any law of the mind. We must take captivity captive …

Noxot · Feb 26, 2015

Gods word is so different than fallen mans. it is no wonder people confuse his bible. the ones who distort his image within the bible does nothing whatsoever to banish God as he is but it can certainly do damage to the man that can not see. how could you ever know God with your own strength? at best you will see blackness which ofc is enough. it is as if fallen mankind is often trapped in a lukewarm state. if cold, frozen enstasis with God then good. if hot then burning in eternity with him forever then good. but lukewarm is just not right.

this world is so absurd. certainly it only exist for God and his kingdoms good pleasure and it is so far away from having any value whatsoever without the eternal reality. people of this world manage to function by some kind of miracle. how could anyone possibly endure existing without God? even though i know they do not.

Noxot · Feb 26, 2015

x141 said:
John was right when he said we have no need that any man teach us, but until we come to the truth of this it will always be as stolen bread to us, and more akin to living in a land that is not our own.

I live in lands not my own and lands that are. I take the land, spreading my disease unto the natives and they die, then it is my land. it might seem wrong but i can't help if some things can not endure while others can. I can't help that they can not break my bones, nor can they pierce through my scales.

same old story and stumbling block

here is a nice piece of art from an artist I like. I see it as a picture of the soul:

Skull Dress by Hellobaby on DeviantArt

x141 · Feb 26, 2015

She looks right in her depiction, ties into Scripture quite well ...

(Just some thoughts) Concerning soul, when we live in the past or future it is at the expense of the moment, it is this way that our soul rules over us in which we wander around in as someone halt between two opinions or as a stranger in a land that is not our own, it not being seeded by our seed (of a woman), or our waters that run in our streets.

God speaks to us in picture form, in scripture, in books, in creation, in everything because it is this avenue whereby we perceive things, but what defines those things as to what they are to us is what we allow our garden to be seeded by.

God’s garden (soul) is enclosed, and seeded with nothing less than himself. When we live another’s truth as our own, it becomes the dichotomy, or an opposing seed, hence a duality or an eye not single (which relates to the soul in the form I am speaking in).

Something seems right to the soul until someone else comes up with another opinion. This relates to a coming out of the feast of Passover and entering into the feast of Pentecost, or out of Egypt and into the wilderness (though the second forty or revealing of their nakedness was when they turned back into the wilderness by a division in the testimony, which the first picture of is when God speaks Let there be light, and then the dividing of light from darkness.

(On a different note of the same song) It is funny, for our soul to have a question and our spirit to have the answer for it. These are the only words I live by … and find them to flow around us, all streams /threads/garments (feminine of coat), of one river/coat. (not only does it come out of us, it is us, and it clothes or encloses our mind. The words that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt, is understanding where you are, the pure language is a narrative one lives in and which comes up out of them, it is simply a state of being which you could confine in the words Living in the spirit. All fellowship aside … Who will teach you/me, there is no other, it is the singleness of it, or rest.

I was fellow-shipping with one of my workers the yesterday how Peter never entered into the son that he was (from the position of outer court/ Passover (just as every time a word comes to someone it tries them until it comes forth (or in other words process (Passover moves through three phase just as Pentecost does, or Tabernacles does, nine or birthing, the total of all the feasts within the feasts being the creative week in three phases, the beginning and the end what encloses the one feast Pentecost is, or the midst of the week (which all can happen in a moment) whether long and drawn out or in a moment or twinkling of an eye), but instead became an adversary to this very truth, not only to who Jesus was, but who he himself was, and therefore unwittingly an adversary to everyone around him by not entering in or keeping the first commandment not to eat (which if he had, the tree of knowledge would have become to him a tree of life that he is).

x141 · Mar 7, 2015

Without the finite the infinite remains un-quantified, which in turn quantifies the finite as infinite.

x141 · Mar 13, 2015

Love is, and it is place past the thought to love.

x141 · Mar 13, 2015

To be God is the absolute of humbleness.

x141 · Mar 14, 2015

(Though it starts with Adam and ends with Jesus) Hagar was a slave who became married, her son was both heir (by his Father) and slave by his mother, (after being driven out (a garden scenario) who returned from the wilderness to be under Sarah for a time, and then was sent away, or freed (her son was a Barabbas, one who is let loose in the wilderness (look to the law of Moses, the servant of God), and is like the raven who flies to and fro until all the waters of baptism are dried up, which the drying up in picture can be found in the Jordan as it was in the red sea): the free woman’s son, a son to that after being delivered from bondage was brought into bondage in the wilderness by Moses, this being the same means they were brought into bondage by Abraham, who foreshadowed in thought their stay by the image of a famine (like a worm God sent) in the land of promise, when he himself went down to Egypt at the price of his soul/Sari. The process found in Egypt, in the wilderness and in the land is the same, and reflect the process of our soul concerning thought, as a seed time and harvest.

This is a truth that plays out in us, it is the two souls and sons they produce but they are both of the same tree, but we must remember that Isaac was never the promise, it was God, and us in relationship to him as sons (no gender implied). It is our fellowship as this that makes us free indeed. It is an issue of blood, or issue of the soul (which the river that parts into four heads is a shadow, a type of, what the soul does to one river when the garden is not enclosed, it is the language of God that is found in the Bible, even though it is everywhere.

(Speaking further in to this) This city (Jerusalem) which in the wilderness was a mountain (shadowed in the state of Sarah trying to fulfill the promise through labor of thought, or the woman by thought eating of thought to become like God (Jer 49:12/Jn 9:41) and is our souls perception of the truth, and the son that we are (no gender implied) in truth, comes down from God, out of heaven, as a bride already adorned for her husband. This city is our soul, the one we find by losing (but like Job we do not get a new wife we get new children). The law is spiritual, it is internal, and Jesus came to those who were sitting in the darkness that is outside of this city of God.

x141 · Mar 15, 2015

Speaking to the state of consciousness; if you say you don’t care you do, by words we create the law in our self by which it is measured by. In the same way, if you say let there be light, there is light, and therefore darkness becomes the law that it is measured by.

Noxot · Mar 19, 2015

a few quotes from a saint named Angelus Silesius
[1624-1677]

The Soul is very strongGod's self
Acknowledgeth 'tis even so.
He cannot break from her embrace
Unless she please to let Him go.

Here must thy deed be done.
'Twere an undreamed-of thing
That he who wins no Kingdom here
Should there become a King.

If putting Virtue into act
Thou findest drudgery and moil,
Virtue thou hast not yet attained
But after Virtue still dost toil.

The Sun gives movement unto all,
And makes the Stars dance in the sky:
If I still stand immovable
No part in the great Whole have I.

God is not served by Fast, Vigil or Litany;
Thou rather serv'st thyself, being purified thereby.

Unless thou dost become a Child
Thou canst not enter in the place
Where all God's children arefor thee
The doorway hath too small a space.

I honour that Simplicity
To which God joins intelligence,
But scarcely worth the name I count
Simplicity that lacketh sense.

If thou wouldst shun those strangers, Bride,
 Who seek to be thy paramours,
Then close the casement shutters fast
 And linger not at open doors.

Take what God giveth thee. He giveth Great in Small,
Gold in base slag, where we surmise it least of all.

Climb not too high; frame no unneedful subtleties;
The finest Wisdom is to be not overwise.

The Nightingale mocks not the Cuckoo's note, 'tis true,
And yet you scorn my song if I sing not as you.

Friend, it is now enough. Wouldst thou read more, go hence,
Become thyself the Writing and thyself the Sense.

x141 · Mar 20, 2015

"Friend, it is now enough. Wouldst thou read more, go hence, become thyself the Writing and thyself the Sense."

This is a truth that cannot be taught other than by the one who dwells in us, because it is as a walking as one with God as the truth/love of every moment, where you become the truth you have always been from before the world was, enclosed in this truth of a living epistle.

x141 · Mar 20, 2015

If God is less than self, disparity can be found in a single thought.

Noxot · Mar 22, 2015

x141 said:
If God is less than self, disparity can be found in a single thought.

we just can't love God enough of our own. I know that the saints would sacrifice their own self for God but little self is loved by God too much to let it fade. his love might be terrifying but we have to endure for his sake. he deserves something to love no matter how much we burn away, choking in his fire we grasp for air. it is no wonder why we forget and became death and vanity for his sake alone. the pain of his love is too much for a capacity to bare, we are already in hell and there is no escape from him.

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