Thoughts on the deep dive of the capsule with 5 people?

[comana]

Hold on. You said the reason you weren’t interested is he information you were told. If it was erroneous how about reading the right information? Then coming up with a more informed decision

It won’t change anything for me. I don’t believe there is anything after we die. It doesn’t matter to me what you or anyone else describe it as.

 

[Sabri]

It won’t change anything for me. I don’t believe there is anything after we die. It doesn’t matter to me what you or anyone else describe it as.

What will change you? A miraculous encounter? Love? I’m interested to know

 

[prodromos]

Please read one of many articles discussing Elon musk frantic search to live outside of earth

Elon Musk: "Doesn’t seem to be any life in this solar system"

"Maybe under the ice of Europa or extremophile bacteria below the surface of Mars."

futurism.com

Nothing in that article suggested his search was frantic, nor that he wished to live outside of earth.
It really bugs me when people who claim to be Christian make false claims, then instead of repenting of their error, instead double down on their lie. It gives a really bad witness for Christ.

 

[Sabri]

Nothing in that article suggested his search was frantic, nor that he wished to live outside of earth.
It really bugs me when people who claim to be Christian make false claims, then instead of repenting of their error, instead double down on their lie. It gives a really bad witness for Christ.

He is frantically searching. What makes you think he’s not.

 

[prodromos]

He is frantically searching.

Nope.

What makes you think he’s not.

You've given no compelling evidence that he is. All you've given is your say so and nothing to back it up. None of the articles you've linked to so far support your claim.
You wanting it to be so does not make it so.

 

[comana]

What will change you? A miraculous encounter? Love? I’m interested to know

I have no idea. I don’t contemplate what happens at death all that often. I’ve already lived my religious phase. I have moved on.

 

[comana]

Please read one of many articles discussing Elon musk frantic search to live outside of earth

Elon Musk: "Doesn’t seem to be any life in this solar system"

"Maybe under the ice of Europa or extremophile bacteria below the surface of Mars."

futurism.com

He seems to be wondering if there is life elsewhere from Earth. This is a common curiosity amongst humans. Frantic is a bit of an exaggeration though.

 

[Sabri]

I have no idea. I don’t contemplate what happens at death all that often. I’ve already lived my religious phase. I have moved on.

Really. Death is a part of life. It’s the circle and to not understand death, how can you live your best life? Or prepare for death. Religious phase?

 

[Sabri]

He seems to be wondering if there is life elsewhere from Earth. This is a common curiosity amongst humans. Frantic is a bit of an exaggeration though.

My point exactly. Through all of his wondering he’s fixated on building machines to seek for this and if there’s no life trying to find a way for life to exist.

 

[comana]

My point exactly. Through all of his wondering he’s fixated on building machines to seek for this and if there’s no life trying to find a way for life to exist.

I don’t see the problem.

 

[comana]

Really. Death is a part of life. It’s the circle and to not understand death, how can you live your best life? Or prepare for death. Religious phase?

I live my best life by LIVING. why do I need to prepare for death? It will happen.

I was raised in Christianity. Was very strong in my faith. I came to the realization that none of it could be true. I deconverted over a number of years.

 

[Sabri]

I live my best life by LIVING. why do I need to prepare for death? It will happen.

I was raised in Christianity. Was very strong in my faith. I came to the realization that none of it could be true. I deconverted over a number of years.

Interesting. How did you come to that realization? What events prompted?

 

[comana]

Interesting. How did you come to that realization? What events prompted?

I was an abused child who had to to see my abuser regularly. Despite my prayers, no relief, no saving, it continued. As an adult I justified my childhood situation as some kind of test, divine character building, or my experience would lead other to Christ. I suffered so much but I persevered despite being so broken. I developed a passion for history and thought this could restore my faith. I would deep dive into Biblical history. The result was me understanding that religion is human and not divine. The silence to my prayers for help, for safety, they were literally going to no one. I had to save myself. I did. I refused to see my father. I stopped it. Not a court, not any family, not God. Me alone. And over the course of many years, with the help of therapist, I am mostly recovered.

 

[Sabri]

I was an abused child who had to to see my abuser regularly. Despite my prayers, no relief, no saving, it continued. As an adult I justified my childhood situation as some kind of test, divine character building, or my experience would lead other to Christ. I suffered so much but I persevered despite being so broken. I developed a passion for history and thought this could restore my faith. I would deep dive into Biblical history. The result was me understanding that religion is human and not divine. The silence to my prayers for help, for safety, they were literally going to no one. I had to save myself. I did. I refused to see my father. I stopped it. Not a court, not any family, not God. Me alone. And over the course of many years, with the help of therapist, I am mostly recovered.

Thank you for opening up. I appreciate your giving your reason to why you have come to this point. I can not understand the abuse you endured. Some of my relatives have suffered from abuse and have stayed in the faith. I don’t try to minimize your experience because hurt, rejection, and trauma is real. I went into the field of mental health as a practitioner because I believe there are people out there that need healing and need to see another perspective. I incorporate faith into my practice with science medication /counseling

 

[Sabri]

I was an abused child who had to to see my abuser regularly. Despite my prayers, no relief, no saving, it continued. As an adult I justified my childhood situation as some kind of test, divine character building, or my experience would lead other to Christ. I suffered so much but I persevered despite being so broken. I developed a passion for history and thought this could restore my faith. I would deep dive into Biblical history. The result was me understanding that religion is human and not divine. The silence to my prayers for help, for safety, they were literally going to no one. I had to save myself. I did. I refused to see my father. I stopped it. Not a court, not any family, not God. Me alone. And over the course of many years, with the help of therapist, I am mostly recovered.

Let me ask you a question, was your father supposedly in the faith? Was the anger towards God solely because you felt like your prayers were going unanswered? I believe some hurt and trauma cause us to separate from certain things. If not we can literally lose our mental stability. Let’s say this God knows how much you can bear. I think you allowing yourself space to heal is God’s way to preserve your mental stability. Be ok with where your at - i believe you will circle back. I’ll pray ypu will circle back when the time is right, but I definitely won’t push you. I respect where your at. Again, thanks for your explanation.

 

[Sabri]

Nothing in that article suggested his search was frantic, nor that he wished to live outside of earth.
It really bugs me when people who claim to be Christian make false claims, then instead of repenting of their error, instead double down on their lie. It gives a really bad witness for Christ.

Hmm. False claims and repentance. Please tell me more.

 

[comana]

Let me ask you a question, was your father supposedly in the faith? Was the anger towards God solely because you felt like your prayers were going unanswered? I believe some hurt and trauma cause us to separate from certain things. If not we can literally lose our mental stability. Let’s say this God knows how much you can bear. I think you allowing yourself space to heal is God’s way to preserve your mental stability. Be ok with where your at - i believe you will circle back. I’ll pray ypu will circle back when the time is right, but I definitely won’t push you. I respect where your at. Again, thanks for your explanation.

Since we have strayed far from the OP topic, I will not be answering your questions on this side topic in this thread but feel free to move this conversation to the other thread here Questions you always wanted to ask a Christian or non believer and remarks are accepted also.

 

[the Vital One]

It would be easy to cry about this. When news of it comes on TV i find myself struggling for air thinking about it. An authority on this said on DBL today , if he had to guess, that it blew when they lost contact with it. That would be the less suffering end. But wouldn't
something be floating? From what has come out about it, sounds like a shoestring and bubblegum mess/invention. They did say there had been 3 prior trips that were successful. There was supposed to be news of it at 3pm. I missed it.

It's a tragedy and we're going to see more and more stories like this. Rich people think their money makes them invincible and feel like they have to out-do other billionaires who've gone on dangerous journeys in questionably prepared vehicles.

 

[Bobber]

This was sometimes ago now....I'm a latecomer to this thread, but about what happened. I think what a sad, unnecessary way to see your life be done. What really was the purpose? It not that you're going to see anything down there that there hasn't been pictures taken of it before. Robot ships can go down their taking pictures as well. Let's face it it really was all about to have bragging rights where one could say they've been down to the Titanic. Such a high price to pay to be able to say this.

 

[returntosender]

Ya, but that's what rich men do. To boldly go where no man has gone before....money can be the death if you. I think rich people believe they are invincible.