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Have I ever written that I do not sin?
I see you're not willing to answer my questions
Do you try your best to worship YHWH only? A yes or no will suffice.
So, do you worship Him diligently, or perfectly?
I don't have try, I do.
The law plays no part in the life of the Christian and it cannot (and never could) atone for sin. Only Christ can.
Then there is this:
Straw man. No one here is saying the Law provides atonement.
In context, you're example from acts is Paul explaining to those who were still pharisees, etc, that he was from birth a pharisee of pharisees. It was his connection to them so they could not claim he was ignorant of the law.
Acts 25:6 And when he had remained among them more than ten days, he went down to Caesarea. And the next day, sitting on the judgment seat, he commanded Paul to be brought. 7 When he had come, the Jews who had come down from Jerusalem stood about and laid many serious complaints against Paul, which they could not prove, 8 while he answered for himself, “Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended in anything at all.”
No, that's not my position.From what I gather (please correct me if I'm wrong netzarim) you throw out everything by Paul and Luke, and claim that Peter was in error when he called Paul's works scripture. You say the Holy Spirit is infallible (which everyone here wholeheartedly agrees with) yet claim that He allowed error into the scriptures in letting Peter call Paul's works scripture. Is that about right? If that is the case, then the bible is of no more use than a comic book. There might be truth in it, but there is also error, thus making the bible fallible. If God's word is fallible, it makes God either fallible, or a deceiver. He is neither. This is the end of the slippery slope you're proposing.
So let me get this straight.At his trial before Festus, Paul said this:
Now, if as you contend Paul's position was that the Law has no place in the life of a believer, then you must also contend that this idea is NOT an offense against the Law.Acts 25:6 And when he had remained among them more than ten days, he went down to Caesarea. And the next day, sitting on the judgment seat, he commanded Paul to be brought. 7 When he had come, the Jews who had come down from Jerusalem stood about and laid many serious complaints against Paul, which they could not prove, 8 while he answered for himself, “Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended in anything at all.”
Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
Of course.Can anyone here prove Paul didn't keep the Torah?
He was a Jew
Paul keeping the Torah was brought up in the thread quoted above by a member.Philipp 3:4 though I also have [cause of] trust in flesh. If any other one doth think to have trust in flesh, I more;
5 circumcision on the eighth day! of the race of Israel! of the tribe of Benjamin! a Hebrew of Hebrews! according to law a Pharisee!
6 according to zeal persecuting the assembly! according to righteousness that is in law becoming blameless!
Neither do the unbelieving non-Christians of today.No, that's not my position.
I follow Messiah when He warned me against the Pharisees, of which Paul is one.
I do not throw out Luke's writings, but I do not regard them as either Torah or Neviim (many Messianics, including myself, believe in three tiers of Scripture)
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No, that's not my position.
I follow Messiah when He warned me against the Pharisees, of which Paul is one.
I do not throw out Luke's writings, but I do not regard them as either Torah or Neviim (many Messianics, including myself, believe in three tiers of Scripture)
I do not believe Peter is infallible.
I do not believe Peter single-handedly - without witness - elevated Paul's works into the equivalent of Torah or Neviim. I believe Peter may have considered Paul's writings Ketuvim (the third tier, edifying but not necessarily inspired).
I do believe the Holy Spirit is infallible.
I do believe that YHWH sends false prophets to test us (e.g. Deu 13:3). I also believe He placed the tree in the Garden to test Adam and Eve, and I believe Messiah chose Judas, who was the traitor, for a reason.
Interesting. So you've never worshiped anything else in your heart.
Interesting that you have such a contradiction. You do not view Luke's words as scripture, yet you give acts the infallibility in claiming Paul counted himself as a pharisee. Very interesting.
I think you're accusing the promotion of sin by not being obligated to the law. This simply isn't true on the part of a believer. Read Gal 5.The question is this:
Should we try our best to do what YHWH defined is "right"?
Or (as you're teaching), should we avoid what YHWH commanded because we can't do it perfectly at all?
Do you worship YHWH to the best of your ability? Do you worship Him alone? Do you refrain from committing adultery, from stealing, for honoring your parents? Or have you abandoned those commandments?
Are you really saying liberty to obey the law? That is bondage and not liberty also called freedom.Liberty to do righteousness, not liberty from sin.
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