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IOW we have to do as you say to qualify. NO DEAL! The Bible presents a much better deal. I'm a bargain shopper and know a good deal when I see it.
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IOW we have to do as you say to qualify. NO DEAL! The Bible presents a much better deal. I'm a bargain shopper and know a good deal when I see it.In my interpretation, the "righteous" includes those who not only believe, and trust in Messiah, they also follow Him in diligent obedience as a habit in their lives, all as their expression of love for Him. They may inadvertently fail from time to time, but they do not make a habit of it, and instead, diligently fight against it. It is no different than an earthly wife diligently loving her husband.
The "unrighteous" are those who walk in disobedience as an ongoing habit or because of carelessness in their lives, whether or not they believe in Messiah. The "self-righteous" are in this category. They follow their own traditions which are not grounded in YHWH's Word, yet believe they are righteous.
Originally Posted by from scratch
I generally quote Gal 5:4 for this. The fact is netzarim is requiring the law for salvation and doesn't need to make a direct statement. But then Galatians isn't in his cannon of Scripture. Netzarim is threatening people with hell fire if they don't take his position. I guess make of it what you will.
And don't think we [or at least a few of us] don't appreciate that!I'm not threatening anyone, nor am I judging anyone here.
All I am is a messenger merely presenting Scripture as I see it from MY perspective, that is all. What you do with it is your concern.
Then what is it called?I'm not threatening anyone, nor am I judging anyone here. All I am is a messenger merely presenting Scripture as I see it from my perspective, that is all. What you do with it is your concern.
Netzarim is threatening people with hell fire if they don't take his position.
Nope - the best deal. In this case Jesus has it and the law doesn't."Bargain shopper" = looking for the lowest cost?
Messiah preached that following Him involved a high cost.
Pretty self condemning if you ask me.Messiah had harsh words for some people who believe in Him (Jn 8:31). He says that these believers do not understand Him (8:43), their father is the devil (8:44), and that they do their father's desires (8:44)! If they would only remain observant to His Word (8:31, 39, 47) and avoid sin aka "transgression of the Law" (8:34, 1Jn 3:4), they would be of YHWH. But since they believe, yet they reject obedience, they "are not of YHWH" (8:47)! Thus, belief plus obedience is identified as true love for Him (8:42).
Did you miss my explanation in Post 380?Where? I missed it.
Matt 23 comes to mind"Bargain shopper" = looking for the lowest cost?
Messiah preached that following Him involved a high cost.
Enough silliness for the moment. Got work to do.
Did you miss my explanation in Post 380?
Here's a link - http://www.christianforums.com/t7773297-38/#post64152149
The Jews of today don't follow either one, and after all this, who can blame 'em....At any rate, we're in big trouble (those of us who don't denounce Paul) if we have no case for any particular doctrine outside of Paul's writings.
After all, we follow Jesus, not Paul (even Paul will tell you that).
At any rate, we're in big trouble (those of us who don't denounce Paul) if we have no case for any particular doctrine outside of Paul's writings.
After all, we follow Jesus, not Paul (even Paul will tell you that).
1 Corin 15:23Matthew 24:3
Of sitting yet of Him upon the Mount of the Olives, the Disciples came toward Him according to own saying "be telling to us! when? shall these-things be, and what? the sign of Thy parousiaV <3952> and the together-finish of the Age"
Even Messiah demanded multiple witnesses, and advised us to do the same.
"Bargain shopper" = looking for the lowest cost?
Messiah preached that following Him involved a high cost.
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