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Those three little words

Markus6

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I have never said, "I love you" to a girl in a romantic sense. I've only ever had one girl say it to me. However, I'm currently in a relationship where I feel I could come to a place where I want to say it. However, having thought about it I'm just not sure what it means and how I'd know when I got to the right place. A bit of me is pleased that I've never said it to anyone else and would like to only say it to one woman in my life. However, the only way to guarantee that would be to not say it until I get married. Part of the problem is I don't know what she thinks the word means. I don't want to say it and scare her off because she thinks that's a long way beyond where she is in the relationship. Neither do I want her to get upset because I'm not saying it and she thinks I should be. What do you think about talking to her about it before I say it?

To summarise:
  1. What does it mean to say, "I love you"?
  2. How do you know when you're ready to say it?
  3. Would talking to her about this be wise?
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What does it mean to say, "I love you"?

It obviously means you love the person, but to go one step further, I believe "I love you" takes the relationship to "a new level" as it were. It means you are committed emotionally to this person, and the words carry heavy meaning in my opinion. You are making a type of committment when you say those words. People who toss the word around with little thought aren't thinking clearly, because those words ARE a committment of sorts.

How do you know when you're ready to say it?

I really think it is subjective, something each person will know for themselves. I was ready sooner than my DH (then boyfriend) was. I said it first, he wasn't ready to say it back, and we talked about that. In fact, the precise thing he said to me was that up until this point, he thought he had only ever experienced "puppy love", and he wanted to make sure what he felt for me was the real thing. That to me was an attractive quality :sorry: All was well, and he said it to me when he was ready.

My most basic answer? Say it when you know you feel it. Many people say it before they even feel it. They say it because they think they "should" say it, they think they "must" say it, or they think they know what love is but do not (people who say "I love you" to every single guy they date are typically mistaking puppy love for real love, or lust for love, or obsession for love, and so on. I've certainly done this in my past enough times to comment on it).

Would talking to her about this be wise?

Absolutely. Open and honest communication is not only wise, it is highly respected by women :sorry: But, understand that by bringing it up for conversation, you will peek her interest. There's no way of getting around that. A person who brings up the subject of love, obviously has it on his mind in a positive sense.
 
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What does it mean to say, "I love you"?

It obviously means you love the person, but to go one step further, I believe "I love you" takes the relationship to "a new level" as it were. It means you are committed emotionally to this person, and the words carry heavy meaning in my opinion. You are making a type of committment when you say those words. People who toss the word around with little thought aren't thinking clearly, because those words ARE a committment of sorts.
What does it mean to love a person? Where, in those steadily increasing feelings of admiration, is the point where I suddenly call it love? Words are subjective, it actually means whatever meaning I want to put behind it. However, she will take it to mean whatever she thinks love means. The two are bound to be different.
How do you know when you're ready to say it?

I really think it is subjective, something each person will know for themselves. I was ready sooner than my DH (then boyfriend) was. I said it first, he wasn't ready to say it back, and we talked about that. In fact, the precise thing he said to me was that up until this point, he thought he had only ever experienced "puppy love", and he wanted to make sure what he felt for me was the real thing. That to me was an attractive quality :sorry: All was well, and he said it to me when he was ready.

My most basic answer? Say it when you know you feel it. Many people say it before they even feel it. They say it because they think they "should" say it, they think they "must" say it, or they think they know what love is but do not (people who say "I love you" to every single guy they date are typically mistaking puppy love for real love, or lust for love, or obsession for love, and so on. I've certainly done this in my past enough times to comment on it).
How do I know what feeling I should call "love"?
Would talking to her about this be wise?

Absolutely. Open and honest communication is not only wise, it is highly respected by women :sorry: But, understand that by bringing it up for conversation, you will peek her interest. There's no way of getting around that. A person who brings up the subject of love, obviously has it on his mind in a positive sense.
I do have it on my mind in a positive sense so I don't really mind her knowing.
 
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What does it mean to say, "I love you"?

You care about her dearly and wish the best for her.

How do you know when you're ready to say it?

When you are sure that you care about her dearly and wish the best for her.

Would talking to her about this be wise?

Yes


I'm in disagreement with most of western society on this topic. My problem is that I don't understand why you would make the kind of comitments you make to a SO to someone that you did not love.

Without love there is no romance, so whats the point of having a romantic relationship where there is no romance? Take the romance out of it and they are just friends.
 
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Basically what you just asked me? Is "What is love"

I can't answer that for you. People have been trying to answer that question since the dawn of time. I don't have your answer. God might :) The answer will only come from within you. That might sound cheesy but... it's accurate. Each person must discern love for him or herself.
Pretty much.

How did you decide when to say it? What do you think love is and how did you know when you were in it?
 
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That is true of many people in my life. I certainly care about her dearly and wish the best for her.

Then tell her so.

I wouldn't worry about how many women you've said it to, so long as you can look back upon it and know that you have ment it each time.

I don't know how long you've been with your GF, but if its been more then a couple months and she can't honestly say the same, I would say that you are wasting your time. If she doesn't know by now, then that is because the answer is that she simpily does not.
 
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Then tell her so.

I wouldn't worry about how many women you've said it to, so long as you can look back upon it and know that you have ment it each time.

I don't know how long you've been with your GF, but if its been more then a couple months and she can't honestly say the same, I would say that you are wasting your time. If she doesn't know by now, then that is because the answer is that she simpily does not.
I can tell her I care about her deeply and wish the best for her but is that = love? If I say I love her well she interpret it the same way or think it means something different?
 
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Do you really want one of us to tell you that you are in love with her? :scratch: That sort of defeats the purpose. This is something that is deeply personal and individual for everyone.

You sound so fearful. Why? Do you not trust her enough not to go running off if she doesn't feel the same, instead of talking to you about it? If so, maybe the relationship has far to go yet.

Trust her, trust yourself, trust your relationship.
 
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Do you really want one of us to tell you that you are in love with her? :scratch: That sort of defeats the purpose. This is something that is deeply personal and individual for everyone.

You sound so fearful. Why? Do you not trust her enough not to go running off if she doesn't feel the same, instead of talking to you about it? If so, maybe the relationship has far to go yet.

Trust her, trust yourself, trust your relationship.
No I don't want anyone to tell me I'm in love with her. I just want the tools to be able to work it out for myself.

And I sound fearful because you're reading that into the very little that I've said. I'm not. :p
 
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I think you should.

But thats just me. I personally don't think there is a romantic relationship without "I love you".

I'd just say it because honestly if you've been with her more then a few months and that is not where this is. Then I think you are wasting your time.

Way too many people stay with people they don't love just because they don't want to be single.
 
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I already messaged you some of my thoughts, but after reading what you've said on this topic I thought I'd share my experience and my thoughts in a little more detail.

In our relationship, I was actually the first one to say it. We'd been dating about three months when I realized that I loved him. The way I knew was because there was something he did that really bothered me...some of his weaknesses manifested themselves...and yet I realized that my care for him remained just as strong even when he was getting on my nerves. I also found that every so often when I was with him, I would have to try *not* to say it. It just kept trying to pop out, and I'd stop myself right before I said it.

One night he came over, and we went on a long walk. One of his college friends had just been in a car wreck and had died, leaving behind a husband and a three-month old baby. As we walked, he talked about it with me, and cried, and because of that emotional connection, "I love you" popped out when we were saying goodnight. He said, "Really?" I was kind of surprised, and said yes, and while he didn't return the sentiment at that point, he assured me that he was fine with the fact that I'd said it.

Funny side note: Looking back later, I was reminded of that episode of That 70's Show and I felt like that was almost what happened to us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKOZegEVqA

Anyway, it took him two more months before he finally said it to me. He hinted around a little bit before he said it, and there were a couple times not long before he did that I indicated that I knew he loved me even though he hadn't said it. I wasn't insecure at all that he hadn't said it, and I was actually fine knowing that he had heard it from me first, although I didn't continue to say it until he said it for the first time. My boyfriend is very honest and sincere, and I knew that the reason he wouldn't say it was because he wanted to make sure he totally meant it first. I appreciated that, and it made it so much more amazing when I heard it for the first time. There were a few days after that where we were still trying to get past some awkwardness of figuring out when to say it and how often, and at the end of the night, if he hadn't said it, I'd just look at him and go, "Aaaaaaand you love me." And he would laugh and say, "And I love you," and I would tell him I loved him, too. It only took a couple days before it was natural to say it whenever we felt it.

I do agree with Morning~Glory that you should wait until you are totally ready and know that you mean it. [Edit to remove next sentence]

Absolutely. Open and honest communication is not only wise, it is highly respected by women :sorry: But, understand that by bringing it up for conversation, you will peek her interest. There's no way of getting around that. A person who brings up the subject of love, obviously has it on his mind in a positive sense.

I agree with this VERY much, and for this reason I would personally hesitate in asking her about it if I were you. But I don't know. Talking about it could be good. If you do decide to talk about it first, though, just make sure you think you'll be ready to follow up with an "I love you" fairly soon, because chances are, it's going to make her hungry to hear it.

Also, you can always go from a quick and friendly "Love ya" when hanging up the phone to ending up with a meaningful and sincere "I love you" sometime later. As crazy as it is, there really is quite a bit of difference when said in those different ways.
 
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I think you should.

But thats just me. I personally don't think there is a romantic relationship without "I love you".

I'd just say it because honestly if you've been with her more then a few months and that is not where this is. Then I think you are wasting your time.

Way too many people stay with people they don't love just because they don't want to be single.
Well there we go. One person saying any romantic relationship should have "I love you"s and another saying I should feel pretty sure I want to marry her first. Anyone see my dilema now?

To be serious this forum isn't the busiest but I've really appreciated all your input. Thanks guys.

Just to clarify, I am 100% sure I am not wasting my time. Just that.
 
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Well there we go. One person saying any romantic relationship should have "I love you"s and another saying I should feel pretty sure I want to marry her first. Anyone see my dilema now?

To be serious this forum isn't the busiest but I've really appreciated all your input. Thanks guys.

Just to clarify, I am 100% sure I am not wasting my time. Just that.

As a youngster, my boyfriend decided not to say "I love you" until he was ready to commit to a relationship (i.e., get engaged).

We dated for two years before he said I love you. As his girlfriend, I was finding it really hard to hear, "I like you a lot" all the time. I knew that. After two years, I wanted to know if he loved me or not. I asked him to think and pray about it, and I told him how hurtful it was that he wouldn't tell me he loved me.

I knew he did in his actions, but for some reason, that just wasn't enough. Maybe it would be for some other ladies out there, but for ME... I needed to either hear it or make a change in the relationship. Sometimes you just comes to those kinds of forks in the road.

Please talk to her :) Don't say it if both of you aren't comfortable with it.
 
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As a youngster, my boyfriend decided not to say "I love you" until he was ready to commit to a relationship (i.e., get engaged).

We dated for two years before he said I love you. As his girlfriend, I was finding it really hard to hear, "I like you a lot" all the time. I knew that. After two years, I wanted to know if he loved me or not. I asked him to think and pray about it, and I told him how hurtful it was that he wouldn't tell me he loved me.

I knew he did in his actions, but for some reason, that just wasn't enough. Maybe it would be for some other ladies out there, but for ME... I needed to either hear it or make a change in the relationship. Sometimes you just comes to those kinds of forks in the road.

Please talk to her :) Don't say it if both of you aren't comfortable with it.

And well that the thing. How much of your life do you want to commit to an "I like you a lot". Life is too short.

Personally I wouldn't want to commit a heck of a lot of my life to that. I'd much rather have someone who's ready to commit to real and full romantic relationship rather then a dating and kissing relationship.

Because a dating and kissing relationship is very empty if you ask me. I can't confide in someone that doesn't love me or isn't sure if they do. And I'm not going to spend much time with kisses, hugs or other signs of affection to someone who doesn't share my love.

And perhaps most importantly, I can't open up completly to that person. I'm not going to reveal to a person that "likes me" my weaknesses, my fears, my insecurities, my sins, and every thought that runs through my little Kirk head of mine.
 
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Well there we go. One person saying any romantic relationship should have "I love you"s and another saying I should feel pretty sure I want to marry her first. Anyone see my dilema now?

Rethinking it, I was probably a little premature in saying that. I felt unsure even when I said it and so probably should not have posted that part. I guess I was just trying to emphasize the importance of making sure you mean it, and that it's serious before you say it.

I agree with whoever said that it does take the relationship to a new level of commitment and emotion.
 
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