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I stopped when I read this.
"One notable curiosity to that theory: I don't have the exact specs now, but read it some years ago. The moon in its orbit around earth is ever inching 'away' from earth. The distance between earth and moon is continually getting greater and greater. Eventually, if things were to continue at their present pace, I suppose it's conceivable the moon would fly away, totally free of earth's gravity. By the same token, if a person reversed those calculations, some 85-million years ago (not billions of years) the moon would have been so close to the earth that it would have been skimming along, breaking off the tops of trees and likely decapitating the taller dinosaurs....not to mention the impossibility of anything to not be totally crushed and mangled in the gravitational interactions even a long time before the moon was ever that close."
There's a refutation here if anybody cares. In short, the model that the creationists are using to make their claim is out-dated and falsified. It'd be like saying that evolution is wrong, and then refuting Lamarck's claims.
"One notable curiosity to that theory: I don't have the exact specs now, but read it some years ago. The moon in its orbit around earth is ever inching 'away' from earth. The distance between earth and moon is continually getting greater and greater. Eventually, if things were to continue at their present pace, I suppose it's conceivable the moon would fly away, totally free of earth's gravity. By the same token, if a person reversed those calculations, some 85-million years ago (not billions of years) the moon would have been so close to the earth that it would have been skimming along, breaking off the tops of trees and likely decapitating the taller dinosaurs....not to mention the impossibility of anything to not be totally crushed and mangled in the gravitational interactions even a long time before the moon was ever that close."
There's a refutation here if anybody cares. In short, the model that the creationists are using to make their claim is out-dated and falsified. It'd be like saying that evolution is wrong, and then refuting Lamarck's claims.
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PRATTs from start to finish. Also, nice of them to base their entire argument on "churches that believe in theistic evolution are apostate" BS. Since when is not believing in evolution a prerequisite to being Christian? Please, come up with another old chestnut.
I love how sensitive they are over the literalism issue. No two people can hold consistent "literalist" standpoints on the Bible unless they've actively colluded and done some serious disagreeing, compromising and interpreting, by which point any notion of "literal" has gone out the window.
I love how sensitive they are over the literalism issue. No two people can hold consistent "literalist" standpoints on the Bible unless they've actively colluded and done some serious disagreeing, compromising and interpreting, by which point any notion of "literal" has gone out the window.
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uberd00b
The Emperor has no clothes.
Wow that page gets it so wrong.
Creationism is a modern phenomena. It stems from a modern (scientific, literal) reading of Genesis that simply did not exist in original Christianity.
Once again we see creationism supported by dishonesty. Not surprising to most of us.
Creationism is a modern phenomena. It stems from a modern (scientific, literal) reading of Genesis that simply did not exist in original Christianity.
Once again we see creationism supported by dishonesty. Not surprising to most of us.
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TheManeki
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I don't know about all of creationism being a modern invention. Based on Ron Numbers' The Creationists, it seemed that the majority of Christians were some kind of old-Earth creationists when Darwin burst onto the scene, and many made the transition to theistic evolution. The main development was young-Earth creationism as a reaction to evolution, and it still surprises me at how well such a half-baked piece of theology took off. Must have been one of the early triumphs of marketing.
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