This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

[LittleNipper]

O Kali Ma. I just loooooooove how the homosexuals who "disregard GOD" are more of an outrage to you than heterosexuals who rape children. Why are you so up-in-arms over homosexual relationships, whereas ACTUAL rape and ACTUAL pedophilia only get half a sentence from you?

This thread is about homosexuality. I do have a problem with "heterosexuals" who rape and have incest. I have the very same problem with ''homosexuals" who rape and have incest. If you don't believe that happens, just visit any prison or talk to a few Catholic parishes. I'm against ANY deviate sex of ANY sort. The problem is that many people involved in diviate sex of any sort are usually full of excuses and do not wish to see their brand of diviation for what it is.

 

[bricks00usa]

GOD did not choose for you to be forced into a having sex. Choices certainly can be forced on people. GOD wishes you to place HIM and not sexual activity or sex partners at the center of your life. That might mean that one remains celibate but it certainly does not mean that one has been told of GOD to exercise one's sexual abilities for one's own ends.

My understanding is if God did not want me where I am I would not be. Since this is where God has put me I will do my best to be happy in any circumstance.

 

[LittleNipper]

My understanding is if God did not want me where I am I would not be. Since this is where God has put me I will do my best to be happy in any circumstance.

History is full of people, who with GOD's help and guidance, rose above their circumstances....

 

[LittleNipper]

And God has created about 10% of the population in such a way that sex between a husband and a wife is not a beautiful thing, because either the husband, the wife, or both, aren't attracted to the opposite sex. I find it rather inconsistent to claim that God is Love, and yet would deny the opportunity for romantic love to one in ten of His children.

I see no Biblical basis for believing that sex for pleasure is an inherently evil thing. And besides, sex for pleasure and sex for procreation aren't the only two options; there is also sex as an expression of love and intimacy between two people who are genuinely and innocently in love with one another. I see no reason to believe that God doesn't smile upon this act when two men or two women who are so deeply in love decide to engage in it in this spirit.

GOD loves every human on the face of this earth; however, HE doesn't have sex with any of them, and HIS love is far greater than anyone can even imagine.

 

[Ramona]

This thread is about homosexuality. I do have a problem with "heterosexuals" who rape and have incest. I have the very same problem with ''homosexuals" who rape and have incest. If you don't believe that happens, just visit any prison or talk to a few Catholic parishes. I'm against ANY deviate sex of ANY sort. The problem is that many people involved in diviate sex of any sort are usually full of excuses and do not wish to see their brand of diviation for what it is.

And I see that you have completely missed the point. Pedophilia and rape are NOT on the same "level" as homosexuality, and it is disgusting of you to suggest that it is. Where is the Christ in your brand of Christianity?

GOD loves every human on the face of this earth; however, HE doesn't have sex with any of them, and HIS love is far greater than anyone can even imagine.

Yeah, your god loves every human on the face of this earth so much that he'd just fling them into a pit of fire for eternity because they simply loved the "wrong" people.

 

[LittleNipper]

And I see that you have completely missed the point. Pedophilia and rape are NOT on the same "level" as homosexuality, and it is disgusting of you to suggest that it is. Where is the Christ in your brand of Christianity?



Yeah, your god loves every human on the face of this earth so much that he'd just fling them into a pit of fire for eternity because they simply loved the "wrong" people.

You have only proven mine. People get thrown into hell because they refuse to repent of sin in their lives. That does not mean that those who repent are perfect. It means that they know they are sinful and ask GOD to cover that sin with the precious blood of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. But when one points fingers and says I'm not a sinner, they are far worse ------- that person is lost. GOD connot forgive what isn't admitted as being sin. So the defiant homosexual is digging his own hole, as is the defiant heterosexual.

 

[naotmaa]

This thread is about homosexuality. I do have a problem with "heterosexuals" who rape and have incest. I have the very same problem with ''homosexuals" who rape and have incest. If you don't believe that happens, just visit any prison or talk to a few Catholic parishes. I'm against ANY deviate sex of ANY sort. The problem is that many people involved in diviate sex of any sort are usually full of excuses and do not wish to see their brand of diviation for what it is.

They're are not excuses, they are the truth. We are not in denial, we are not lying to ourselves, and we are not making excuses.
We know there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. There is no reason to believe otherwise and you have yet to provide us with any evidence to support your claims.

You act like you are the expert on homosexuality with everything you say but you obviously are not. You are not gay, you have no idea what we feel.
We say that gay couples can love each other just as much as a straigh couple can. You say they can't. You say it's all based on lust. The only evidence you use is the bible.
If homosexuality is so wrong, wouldn't you be able to find more evidence to support your claim besides the bible?

 

[OdwinOddball]

You have only proven mine.

Only in your own mind. You will find few here who would agree with you.

 

[Ramona]

You have only proven mine.

What was your point? That you're willing to twist your own holy book to suit your need to attack and belittle anyone that you personally dislike? OK, cool, I'm glad to be of service. People need to know that about you.

BTW, I'm not homosexual.

 

[RealityCheck]

You have only proven mine. People get thrown into hell because they refuse to repent of sin in their lives. That does not mean that those who repent are perfect. It means that they know they are sinful and ask GOD to cover that sin with the precious blood of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. But when one points fingers and says I'm not a sinner, they are far worse ------- that person is lost. GOD connot forgive what isn't admitted as being sin. So the defiant homosexual is digging his own hole, as is the defiant heterosexual.

Thus -

God's need to punish sin > God's love for humans.

Correct?

 

[Ramona]

Thus -

God's need to punish sin > God's love for humans.

Correct?

Edited. Calling Kali Ma "vulgar and disgusting" is perfectly okay, but insult Bill O'RLY or make a valid criticism of a deity who wants to throw you into a fiery pit for all eternity and suddenly it's a horrible, horrible thing.

But so it goes, eh?

 

[mpok1519]

dont we all rebel and defy God in SOME form? If we are not perfect beings, then in some way, we ALL defy and disobey God because we ALL have sin.

Putting homosexuals in a corner and isolating them from the rest of us as 'worse sinners' is just asinine.

A person who smokes, steals, lies, cheats, or disobeys is in the SAME EXACT BOAT as homosexuals.

That is why we must accept and love everyone with forgiveness until GOD chooses to judge them and he will judge you as well. He will judge even the followers of Christ, for they are not perfect either.




.........I LOVE those Secret of Mana icons. hehe

 

[SallyNow]

Well, in the article it descirbes Glatze partying all night and doing drugs. He obviously had more issues than just homesexuality. There seems to be a trend amongst ex gays with substance abus e and partying, which not all gay people do.So I don't think Glatze is proving why homosexuality is wrong.

Exactly. He's showing what he did wrong in his life, how he succumbed to peer pressure and then encouraged others to, too. This has very little to do with homosexuality and a lot to do with the mistakes Glatze made.

If anything, it shows that North America's habit of pushing "different" people to the fringes of society is problamatic, and it shows the flaws in "hate the sin, cast out the sinner" idea that is so prevelant right now.

 

[Inan3]

Bingo! Just the words I was looking for!

Eh um, sexual attraction is what homosexuality is all about. It's not love, in other words, it's L-U-S-T. Homosexuality is all about the physical attraction; it has nothing to do with the emotional. Did you not get that from reading the article?

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

 

[OllieFranz]

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

What is your point? MrrrrrNiceGuy already agrees with you, if that's who you are "rebuking."

But anyone who is gay, or knows someone who is gay, knows that there is a lot more to the attraction than just the physical. At least for most people.

Yes there are people like Glatze who are caught up in the physical, and who do become bound into their lusts. But those people include heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, and in both cases are in the minority. These are the people that Paul speaks of in Romans 1:26-27, but they are not representative of all gays, just as they are not representative of all straights.

So the James verses do not apply here. We do not say that gays are tempted of God, because we do not see the attraction as a temptation, or at least no more of a temptation than that of the attraction between heterosexuals.

 

[m9lc]

Bingo! Just the words I was looking for!

Eh um, sexual attraction is what homosexuality is all about. It's not love, in other words, it's L-U-S-T. Homosexuality is all about the physical attraction; it has nothing to do with the emotional.

And you pull that opinion out of thin air.

If that is the case, then why are gays fighting for the right to marry and adopt children?

Did you not get that from reading the article?

By that logic, an article about a black man who commits theft is proof that all black people are criminals.

 

[CriticalMassKitten]

Bingo! Just the words I was looking for!

Eh um, sexual attraction is what homosexuality is all about. It's not love, in other words, it's L-U-S-T. Homosexuality is all about the physical attraction; it has nothing to do with the emotional. Did you not get that from reading the article?

Funny you say that. See, it's actually impossible to prove that ANY relationship is beyond just physical, or if it actually is emotional. So, while I'm not saying that your statement is true, it could go both ways unless you'd like to try to prove otherwise.

 

[LittleNipper]

Where I live, heterosexual people can't do that. Does that mean heterosexuality needs to be treated as an illness?

No, it means that perhaps you need to evaluate exactly what your society does and why.

 

[LittleNipper]

My husband asked my father permission to marry me too, but my husband, when he wanted to date me, did not just show up on my father's door and say "I liked the looks of your 19 year old daughter, I'm going to take her out. By the way, my name is (insert name). Now where is she?"

If he had, the answer he'd have gotten would have been dramatically different.

I can also say that I would not be very happy with such remarks from a young man. I would expect my daughter to invite the prosective date over so that I might meet him. Remarks as you discribed would have me showing the young man the door ----- pronto. But, I have no problem with a young man asking politely if he may escort my daughter to a social dance event. And I cannot imagine that your father would be different under those circumstances

 

[TheManeki]

Yes, you are correct. I, however, choose not to worship the chaotic evil deity that LN has described.

Now that I think of it, LN's take on God seems more Lawful Evil -- authoritarian and bad news.

Okay. Better stop with the D&D references before (as KommisarSteve would say) my virginity starts growing back.