This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

[Ramona]

Y'know, you might not want to dis the world too much, LN. Feel free to interpret scripture to your heart's desire, but ultimately it has to face a reality check.

F'r example, you can pontificate all you want about how two people in a long-term homosexual relationship are continuously living in sin and will burn forever and ever in Hell, but the existence of people like ChaliceThunder can easily refute this idea. Do yourself a favor, do a reality check, get to know some people like CT.

Otherwise you just sound like those wackos who interpret the Bible as saying the Earth is the center of the universe, and claim that all science to the contrary is an eevil conspiracy. http://www.reformation.org/stationary-earth.html

And I'm sure you don't want to sound like that, do you?

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TheManeki again."

Aaargh, not this again!

 

[TheManeki]

That is true. There is nothing evil with having a deep love for another. True love asks for nothing in return. Sexual interaction has nothing to do with love..

So two people in a same sex relationship that are deeply in love get your stamp of approval until they actually have sex, huh? Why does the act of sex pose a problem? Is it because they aren't married? Then help campaign for marriage rights.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

That is true. There is nothing evil with having a deep love for another. True love asks for nothing in return. Sexual interaction has nothing to do with love..

Wow.


Well, good to know... the human race is doomed to extinction the day we all become sinless, as sex has nothing to do with love, and only love justifies a relationship.

Care to rethink your earlier statement lil nipper?

 

[IzzyPop]

That is true. There is nothing evil with having a deep love for another. True love asks for nothing in return. Sexual interaction has nothing to do with love..

Sexual interaction has everything to do with love in a monogamous relationship. I do not have sex unless love is present in the relationship. It is one of the best ways to express that love. The giving and receiving of pleasure deepens the bond between two people that love each other. The sex of the individuals is immaterial. It is a natural biological response.

 

[Ramona]

Sexual interaction has everything to do with love in a monogamous relationship. I do not have sex unless love is present in the relationship. It is one of the best ways to express that love. The giving and receiving of pleasure deepens the bond between two people that love each other. The sex of the individuals is immaterial. It is a natural biological response.

Amen to that. All I can really say to LittleNipper is this:

 

[GwynApNudd]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TheManeki again."

Aaargh, not this again!

I did it for you. Or at least I clicked. I'm still 55 rep points away from actually having the power to increase Maneki's rep, though

 

[Ramona]

I did it for you. Or at least I clicked. I'm still 55 rep points away from actually having the power to increase Maneki's rep, though

Gracias! I gave you a little extra 30-point boost for another one of your posts, though. You earned 'em; I've really appreciated your words throughout these threads.

 

[LittleNipper]

Y'know, you might not want to dis the world too much, LN. Feel free to interpret scripture to your heart's desire, but ultimately it has to face a reality check.

F'r example, you can pontificate all you want about how two people in a long-term homosexual relationship are continuously living in sin and will burn forever and ever in Hell, but the existence of people like ChaliceThunder can easily refute this idea. Do yourself a favor, do a reality check, get to know some people like CT.

Otherwise you just sound like those wackos who interpret the Bible as saying the Earth is the center of the universe, and claim that all science to the contrary is an eevil conspiracy. http://www.reformation.org/stationary-earth.html

And I'm sure you don't want to sound like that, do you?

Who is Chalice Thunder? ----- Jesus Christ? I must have struck a nerve... Sorry, but simply because someone wishes to do something, feels that they need to do something, or is deternined to do something, doesn't make it any less a sin. People die and go to hell ONLY because they have not accepted the LORD JESUS CHRIST as their PERSONAL SAVIOR. The simple fact is that there is no sin in heaven, and so saved homosexuals will not be homosexual in heaven----anymore than a saved legless man will enter heaven in a wheelchair. The earth is at the center of GOD's focus and so the universe is nothing more then a wonderful backdrop for the play we presently find ourselves in. The only "WACHOS" are those which do not believe in GOD or HIS power to enact change.

 

[LittleNipper]

Sexual interaction has everything to do with love in a monogamous relationship. I do not have sex unless love is present in the relationship. It is one of the best ways to express that love. The giving and receiving of pleasure deepens the bond between two people that love each other. The sex of the individuals is immaterial. It is a natural biological response.

Tell that one to your mother, your father, or a child....

 

[IzzyPop]

Tell that one to your mother, your father, or a child....

Do you deliberately mis-read posts? What part of monogamous is creating the difficulty? For that matter what part of -sexual is not easy to understand? This discussion is concerning romantic love between two consenting adults. No where has been mentioned familial love and bringing it into the conversation at this point is nothing more then a feeble attempt to dodge your way out of the corner you have painted yourself into.

 

[Baggins]

Bingo! Just the words I was looking for!

Eh um, sexual attraction is what homosexuality is all about. It's not love, in other words, it's L-U-S-T. Homosexuality is all about the physical attraction; it has nothing to do with the emotional.

How many gay sexual relationships did you have before you came to that conclusion?

 

[LittleNipper]

Wow.


Well, good to know... the human race is doomed to extinction the day we all become sinless, as sex has nothing to do with love, and only love justifies a relationship.

Care to rethink your earlier statement lil nipper?

Sex is/was CREATED by GOD for procreation The married couple in the act of procreating may enjoy the act That act; however, was created for a husband and wife to participate in, with an understanding, that GOD may use that act to bring a child into the world. Homosexuality has NEVER been so blessed of GOD.

 

[TheManeki]

Who is Chalice Thunder? ----- Jesus Christ?

One of the guys who has posted in this thread. He's a terrific guy, and he's gay. You should get to know him. You can read some of his thoughts at http://www.christianforums.com/~chalicethunder

The simple fact is that there is no sin in heaven, and so saved homosexuals will not be homosexual in heaven----anymore than a saved legless man will enter heaven in a wheelchair.

I'm hoping you just chose a poor analogy, and that you're not saying that being legless is not sinful. (Then again, maybe it is a choice. ) Remember, there's not gonna be "straight" anymore in heaven, either. (Matthew 22:30)

The only "WACHOS" are those which do not believe in GOD or HIS power to enact change.

I have to ask -- is a WACHO like a nacho? I like nachos.

 

[LittleNipper]

Do you deliberately mis-read posts? What part of monogamous is creating the difficulty? For that matter what part of -sexual is not easy to understand? This discussion is concerning romantic love between two consenting adults. No where has been mentioned familial love and bringing it into the conversation at this point is nothing more then a feeble attempt to dodge your way out of the corner you have painted yourself into.

Friends are not monogomus and homosexuals are not married according to anything anyone may find written in GOD's HOLY WORD. The reason for "monogomus" sex within the homosexual community seems to have developed in recent years to protect against AIDS and other infectious diseases spread through sexual contact.

 

[TheManeki]

Bingo! Just the words I was looking for!

Eh um, sexual attraction is what homosexuality is all about. It's not love, in other words, it's L-U-S-T. Homosexuality is all about the physical attraction; it has nothing to do with the emotional. Did you not get that from reading the article?

Have fun speaking for yourself there?

The emotional part is pretty big. At least as big, if not bigger, than the physical part -- for men and women.

I'm desperately trying not to come across as condescending here -- it's tough when you can't use body language to soften things -- but when you've been married you will see what I mean.

 

[LittleNipper]

One of the guys who has posted in this thread. He's a terrific guy, and he's gay. You should get to know him. You can read some of his thoughts at http://www.christianforums.com/~chalicethunder

I'm hoping you just chose a poor analogy, and that you're not saying that being legless is not sinful. (Then again, maybe it is a choice. ) Remember, there's not gonna be "straight" anymore in heaven, either. (Matthew 22:30)

I have to ask -- is a WACHO like a nacho? I like nachos.

Terrific guys or girls are not sinless. Only CHRIST was without sin. I like salsa and chips myself....

 

[IzzyPop]

Friends are not monogomus and homosexuals are not married according to anything anyone may find written in GOD's HOLY WORD.

Well, it is a mighty good thing that we have evolved beyond the morality and ethics as laid down in the Bible.

The reason for "monogomus" sex within the homosexual community seems to have developed in recent years to protect against AIDS and other infectious diseases spread through sexual contact.

And would you want to contrast that with say, a lesbian? The rate of transmission of STDs were extremely low prior to the HIV outbreak, and have stayed low since then. Scratch that. It would only give your 'theory' a thin patina of respectability for me even to assume it true for the sake of argument. How about you first prove your assertion that monogamy in a homosexual relationship has only come about in the past 30 years. Then you can explain how that effects lesbians.

 

[OllieFranz]

Friends are not monogomus and homosexuals are not married according to anything anyone may find written in GOD's HOLY WORD. The reason for "monogomus" sex within the homosexual community seems to have developed in recent years to protect against AIDS and other infectious diseases spread through sexual contact.

Do you actually read what you write, or do you just let the words fall at random from your fingers?

That is the most rediculous statement I have seen in all the time I've been posting here. And there have been plenty of rediculous statements on this board, mostly from people like you.

If monogamy among gays only happened because of AIDS, how do you explain all the happy and committed couples throughout history?

 

[KarateCowboy]

Funny how it used to be just an act(considered wrong), then it became a lifestyle(to destigmatize), and now it's just an act.

 

[RealityCheck]

Sex is was CREATED by GOD for procreation The married couple in the act of procreating may enjoy the act That act; however, was created for a husband and wife to participate in, with an understanding, that GOD may use that act to bring a child into the world. Homosexuality has NEVER been so blessed of GOD.

So does God therefore bless sex outside of marriage? He does seem to do so quite often, given all the children conceived and born outside of wedlock...

And I suppose, then, that those gay couples who decide to have children must be similarly blessed...

What, too, does God make of in vitro fertilzation techniques that require no husband at all?

Guess regular, heterosexual marital sex just isn't producing enough children, God's gotta go and bless a bunch of other processes that he apparently didn't intend to have happen.......