Third Temple is a Wrong Teaching

[Yekcidmij]

Rebuilding the Holy Temple of G-d


Rebuilding the Holy Temple of G‑d

The 2014 Pesach March and Cutting of the Omer From the Fields of Israel

On Pesach (Passover), 17 Nissan 5774 (April 17, 2014), the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement made a Freedom Pilgrimage March to the Holy Temple Mount calling the government of Israel to immediately build the Third Holy Temple of the G‑d of Israel on the same location as the First and Second Holy Temples on the Holy Temple Mount. On April 16th Gershon and three friends cut the Omer from the fields of Israel and brought it as an offering to the G‑d of Israel to the Holy Temple Mount exactly as G‑d commanded us to do.

It appears that templemountfaithful.org is ignorant of history. Not my problem.

 

[Interplanner]

Or maybe gershon and friends don't read the letter to Hebrews?

 

[NannaNae]

Do you believe the Jews are beloved by God because of the promise to their fathers?

And if not, how do you deal with Pauls testimony?

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

excellent point..

David and Sauls relationship is really what we are looking at here.
and that false authority the church has taken and has always stolen .
David understood God's authority .

Even after David was prophesied to be king.. but HE Stole NOTHING from Saul much less whined and grip and complain...NO>... he only blessed Saul... Saul chased in him trying to kill him and David did nothing but Bless Saul who was one giant walking demon like legend at that time.. . but David knew Saul was king period.

but David even apologized for cutting Sauls garment because Saul was still God's anointed..

I will say right now christians who think they will rule with Him and not bless Israel don't have a clue. ... they would can and do try take it and they steal it like Absalom's( means 'my father is peace'/ but he sure wasn't, nothing about his life said peace , he was anti peace ) Absaloms of this world will not inherit the kingdom . and if David did not have a demon possessed Saul chasing David around out in the desert trying to kill him to teach him what rightful authority really is. David like all mankind would have been an Absalom also.. all people will be Absalom we have all abused our authority . without God's leadership and without him creating in us what is not there after the fall , all men would end like Absalom. and like the atheist on this list they will come to their end trying to usurp other people and other tribes and other nations and other gifts and others authorities.

SO bless Israel and because they are and will always be be his anointed for this one purpose if for no other reason. but there are lots of other reasons.. lots and lots of them.
pray for them bless therm be they demon possessed or pure light and pure fluff and twinkle toed..matters not at all.

but whatever the church does it has got to stop trying to steal it's authority both from the world and from the jews and mostly from each other.

 

[Interplanner]

I have no idea what you are saying Nanna because it is not found in the NT. Instead there are two things that touch on this quite differently: Christ is the believer's authority, and the nations come into the promises to Israel through Christ's Gospel.

I don't find any residual regard for Israel as a nation in the NT. Those Romans passages are there to show that yes, some of them (from Israel) will believe the Gospel, and there would be an advantage because of their background. But readers keep trying to make this all or nothing. God is not all or nothing with any ethnos on earth; he is with those who have faith in the Gospel.

 

[riverrat]

I have no idea what you are saying Nanna because it is not found in the NT. Instead there are two things that touch on this quite differently: Christ is the believer's authority, and the nations come into the promises to Israel through Christ's Gospel.

I don't find any residual regard for Israel as a nation in the NT. Those Romans passages are there to show that yes, some of them (from Israel) will believe the Gospel, and there would be an advantage because of their background. But readers keep trying to make this all or nothing. God is not all or nothing with any ethnos on earth; he is with those who have faith in the Gospel.

There is nothing in the NT that says the nations come into the promises to Israel through Christ's gospel. Your replacement theology is bogus!

 

[NannaNae]

I have no idea what you are saying Nanna because it is not found in the NT. Instead there are two things that touch on this quite differently: Christ is the believer's authority, and the nations come into the promises to Israel through Christ's Gospel.

I don't find any residual regard for Israel as a nation in the NT. Those Romans passages are there to show that yes, some of them (from Israel) will believe the Gospel, and there would be an advantage because of their background. But readers keep trying to make this all or nothing. God is not all or nothing with any ethnos on earth; he is with those who have faith in the Gospel.

through his gift his blood we have only been anointed king( children of the kingdom)......

then starts the rest of the process which puts in us all the things which we do not posses which is actually 'salvation....' because no one who is a usurper will even enter the 8thday much less the 7th day of rest/ peace..

just because your 'father is peace' don't mean you/we are peace !

Jesus does not steal anyones authority, never has.. that is what free will is all about . it is God not stealing what is not his to take..

he demands we offer him our gifts and our own authority free will........ he steals nothing.. he usurps no one... he blesses and blesses and blesses , rain and sun on the evil and the good....now.. even if he has to cut a garment ( his own ) to prove that he loves us he will take nothing . though he sure can take anytime he wants, but he won't do it.
he is lawful! he is holy!
is the church so used to thieving the gifts and authorities from other nations and peoples tribes and even other churches.. is that only what we/ they know? that is not the stuff of jesus when we do it.
we command God like he is our puppy..
we usurped other churches and god' promises to others ...

NO Absalom will not inherit period.
your father may be peace, but that don't mean that is who you/we are!
bless what he blesses!

 

[OneAccordRM]

There is nothing in the NT that says the nations come into the promises to Israel through Christ's gospel. Your replacement theology is bogus!

 

[JLB777]

It appears that templemountfaithful.org is ignorant of history. Not my problem.

The Temple Institute also refers to the Coming Temple as the Third Temple.


I guess we are to assume all the experts who are actually rebuilding this Temple are all wrong, and your opinion is right?

The Temple Institute: The Holy Temple in Jerusalem: Yesterday Tomorrow Today





SHALOM AND WELCOME to the official website of the TEMPLE INSTITUTE in Jerusalem, Israel. The Temple Institute is dedicated to every aspect of the Holy Temple of Jerusalem, and the central role it fulfilled, and will once again fulfill, in the spiritual well being of both Israel and all the nations of the world. The Institute's work touches upon the history of the Holy Temple's past, an understanding of the present day, and the Divine promise of Israel's future. The Institute's activities include education, research, and development. The Temple Institute's ultimate goal is to see Israel rebuild the Holy Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem, in accord with the Biblical commandments. We invite you to read our Statement of Principles. To learn more about the Temple Institute, click here. Please visit the EVENTS page, to keep updated on what is new on the site.

THIS SITE TELLS THE STORY OF THE HOLY TEMPLE in words and pictures. It is a story that spans the millennia, from the beginning of creation, to the establishment of the Third Holy Temple, as foretold by every prophet of Israel. Thus, it is a story still unfolding, the most exciting chapters being written now, in our own times.

AT THIS SITE, you may view photographs of the actual sacred Temple vessels that have been produced by the Temple Institute. Each vessel has been created by accomplished craftsmen. These vessels and priestly garments are being fashioned today according to the exact Biblical requirements, specifically for use in the future Holy Temple. They await the day when they will be called into the Divine service of the Holy Temple.

 

[NannaNae]

Or maybe gershon and friends don't read the letter to Hebrews?

why that letter is addressed to hebrews ? why are you reading it at all...
are you a hebrew? in nationality ? in blood ? in history? in inheritance ? in promises ? in anyway ? no so why are you reading it exactly ? do you have their sins..... maybe.. but you are not them.

I suggest you stick with romans or other of the other gentile books!


since you are not from their traditions and from their history , from their point of veiw...from their perspective of their world ! maybe you shouldn't read it at all since it is not addressed to you and your sins.
see how this goes I worry about my sins and you worry about your and let them worry about theirs..... but you haver no right to worry about theirs..
and I will stop worry about yours the minute you stop promoting Absalom ways as christianese .

 

[Interplanner]

You are missing one of most fundamental features of the Gospel: there is no Jew or Gentile in faith in Christ. That means there are no "Jew" letters and "Gentile" letters in the NT... I don't know of any non-mixed church situations in the NT either.

 

[OneAccordRM]

You are missing one of most fundamental features of the Gospel: there is no Jew or Gentile in faith in Christ. That means there are no "Jew" letters and "Gentile" letters in the NT... I don't know of any non-mixed church situations in the NT either.

In Christ, there is no Jew or Gentile.


If not in Christ, there is only Jew or Gentile.


Tell me, when did the entire world come to Christ again?

 

[NannaNae]

"IN christ "

not everyone is "in christ" and certainly not everyone who claims it is 'of christ ' yet either.. yet !

so worry about that !


then leave his stuff up to him.. you worry about you and you ain't no Hebrew in anyway that is important right now.
usurpers don't inherit period.
bless what he blesses as best we can.

i'm done!

 

[JLB777]

You are missing one of most fundamental features of the Gospel: there is no Jew or Gentile in faith in Christ. That means there are no "Jew" letters and "Gentile" letters in the NT... I don't know of any non-mixed church situations in the NT either.

Paul is contrasting the law of Moses with the New Covenant faith in Christ.

In that regard, we are one in Spirit with Christ, and are of One Nation, joined by One Covenant.

This does not mean there is not any more natural Jews, any more that it does not mean there is not any more male or females.


24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:24-28

Are there any women who go to your Church?

Do men and women still marry and have children.


Please do not misunderstand the context of scripture here.

By rightly diving this word of truth, we must discern what Paul's meaning is or is not.


JLB

 

[NannaNae]

cool guys! we were all typing that out at the same time. love you!

 

[OneAccordRM]

cool guys! we were all typing that out at the same time. love you!

 

[NannaNae]

back to the issue of the temple.

I am going to try and be as honest as I can..
as a youth I had a dream of the stars falling from the sky and after some events I was taken to a temple area.. and people were living in the walls and trying to figure out what was happening... I asked other there if they knew how long we would be there ..
I got all three answers of , " maybe 3 1/2 years" , " maybe 7 years " , and
maybe for 1000 years...... which proved only that none of them/ us knew what we were talking about.. we were all completely clueless.
then lots of other stuff happened and I can only say that I see this place I saw coming in rev.. after the 7th trumpet..I have spent most of my christian walk trying to understand the problems there and understand what I saw..

now IF my guess is right..( and I am definitely not convinced yet that I understand it yet )
and Ezekials temple comes mid trib.... after the 7th trump.. and IF it is that temple which is defiled by the anti christ..

well we are all in for some really huge surprises.

the question will become and has really always been the same question to everyone in every age , do you and I know the real one from the Memorex..

 

[OneAccordRM]

Everyone who thinks the Jews wont build their temple might want to tell the Jews that.

Because they are preparing whether you like it or not.


As it was foretold they would.

 

[Yekcidmij]

The Temple Institute also refers to the Coming Temple as the Third Temple.


I guess we are to assume all the experts who are actually rebuilding this Temple are all wrong, and your opinion is right?

(1) Maybe they aren't the experts they claim to be?

(2) Feel free to deal with Josephus' record any time you wish. It seems history is on my side. I have historical documentation from a primary source, they don't. And since I have documentation from a primary source, it means it's not "opinion."

 

[NannaNae]

Everyone who thinks the Jews wont build their temple might want to tell the Jews that.

Because they are preparing whether you like it or not.


As it was foretold they would.

with the passover blood moons and the Tabernacles blood moons and eclipses and for the next 2 years . is it possible they don't really have time to build one, though that may be their desire and they may even start into it but all islam comes crashing down on them ?

just watch Turkey.. I think that is Satan seat and king of the north and it was where all the 7 churches of REV were also in Turkey.

 

[OneAccordRM]

with the passover blood moons and the Tabernacles blood moons and eclipses and for the next 2 years . is it possible they don't really have time to build one, though that may be their desire and they may even start into it but all islam comes crashing down on them ?

just watch Turkey.. I think that is Satan seat and king of the north and it was where all the 7 churches of REV were also in Turkey.

Turkey comes later, Im watching Gaza, Palestine, Hezbollah, Syria, and Lebanon at the moment.


Psalm 83 must be fulfilled, even tho it appears to have been fulfilled in 49 and 67.

They were only a few nations off, but it will be fulfilled.