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How I feel about perpetrators is no secret. But when you guys ask about, say, having to deal with some sort of interaction with one, I usually respond by saying that I would frag the guy.
This is useless to you. I am going to work on offering more to help than useless hate.
I felt like I needed to share this.
Its ok. We can ask our heavenly father for the right advice to say in situations. He will provide as he always does. Amen and Amen.
 
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Everyone has the oppertunity to do something or do nothing. By even venting your anger, it's doing something, it's saying that you notice the unjust and harm, and it's not right.

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Mr Cheese allow me to say a couple of things.

My internet works sporadically so I am hardly here. When I am here I mostly lurk. So I do a lot of reading. I also have another nick but I use two depending on how personal my posts are.

I am not one of those boardies that really knows you or that you interact with. I am hoping though that this post will paradoxically carry more weight for that reason!

I have *never* read a post on here by you that has not helped restore my faith in men, especially in Christian men. Not once, even if you aren't being particularly deep. I make a point of reading a thread if I see you have posted in it - unless it's not something I am interested in like underwater knitting - because I know I will get a perspective from someone who is actually being the way that blokes are created to be (despite your failings and whatever else).

Also, don't underestimate how helpful it can be to know that men are angry about how other men choose to misuse their sexuality and hurt women. I have heard from plenty of men in real life who see the biggest issue if someone gets raped as being why the woman can't just get over it, and going on and on about her as a result. Oh sure, they say the guy shouldn't have done it, but there's often an undercurrent of "yes bad choice but hey we understand, it's so difficult to be a guy and have a guy's sex drive, so just forgive him, hey, and get over it or noone will want you".

So to hear guys (and yourself included) say no, no way, no excuses, this makes me mad, guys are called to be better than this, this is not true manhood, etc etc is positively freeing for me. I have saved more than one of your posts and reminded myself of your attitude (and others such as JohnNZ come to mind here too) when trying to renew my mind when it comes to relationships and men and what to expect and stand for. Can't tell you how often the Spirit has prompted me with "now Lilygrace, remember some of those fellas on the boards, hmmmmm if you posted a thread about this, what do you think Mr Cheese would say?" or similar, hehehe.

Just the fact that you are concerned about the balance you strike with your posts shows you are striking the right one.

Mr Cheese, I know you didn't post for this reason, but I have been glad for the opportunity to thank you for what you bring to this board, and to some aussie chick whom you have never met nor spoken to. Since you are thinking right now my brother, think on that.

blessings
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Hehehe you are welcome. Reading it over it's like you got every positive response I've felt to your threads and your presence on this forum, all rolled into one post! Meant every word though.

Hope your thinking on all this stuff has brought you more insights into who you are to your sisters here (and brothers for that matter), and what you can contribute, and how to do that and so on.

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This thread has been reopened. Please note this new rule under no flaming and be careful not to break this rule. Please remember also that there is no ethics discussion in the Recovery forums. Thanks folks.

2.1 No Flaming

- Threats of any sort, including advocating or supporting physical or mental harm against another living creature (this creature clause does not apply to political discussions of military action, hunting/fishing discussions nor ethical discussions of capital punishment).
 
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Perhaps to clarify; I've had the opportunity to take physical revenge against two of my perps, (two of my brothers are black belts and would happily have done so)and didn't entertain it for a second. I've actually made them both promise not to. To me, the convos here about "fragging" (I'm an aussie and have to guess at what that even means) aren't to be taken literally, (or at least, I've never read Mr Cheese's posts that way) but more expressing a deep desire to see justice and to stand up for people. That is what helps me, soul wise, about the posts of others here, esp Mr Cheese. I have never gotten the impression that anyone is actually advocating it, nor meant to convey that myself. Hope that clarifies where I am coming from to the board.

I am not trying to argue about what was said in the thread (the mod hat on bit) or whatever but rather make myself clearer - hence I didn't PM this to a mod; hopefully I got *that* balance right too. I have a question about a rule, but will PM the question instead, eh?

Lilygrace.

PS big hugs to you Mr Cheese.
 
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