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Think I'll sit down here for a bit...

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Well I guess I was too optimistic. I woke up early and left the motel room, warmed up the pickup and took off. I ran into the snow after leaving Albequerque and the tension from driving allmost wore me out in a couple of hours. Road crews put sand down which worked great but I ddin't notice that it ran out and I came up over a hill and 2 cars where moving slow and I hit the brakes and allmost plowed into them. Got that heart to pumping. Vehicles were scattered all over the place for miles. Tractor trailer trucks turned over and abadoned cars made it look like a parking lot.

Had it is 4 wheel drive and though I had taken it out when I got clear of the ice. Was tooling along some 30 miles later and saw smoke comming out from behind the truck. Pulled over and the frount differential was smoking and dripping oil from the seals. Stank something fierce. Seems I didn't get it all the way out of 4 wheel drive and allmost burned and locked up the front end. The light indicator on the dash showed it was out but i guess it's faulty. Took it to Jiffy Lube and they put more fluid in and I made it to Phoenix. Now I have to take it to a transmisson place and get it fixed.......what fun :)

Thanks for the prayers.
 
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Today started off grandly, and then became a quick pain in the tush. :mad:

My flights from Philly to Tallahassee were completely messed up, and they missplaced one of my suitcases on another flight! :mad:

I felt myself consistently asking for grace and patience over a 9 hr time period today, so that in my frustration and anger, I wouldnt lash at the airport or flight personnel....but it was hard. :sigh:
 
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Gee... sounds like everyone had a wonderful Saturday all round. Well, as Scarlett said, "...for tomorrow is another day!":amen:

Matt, 6:34
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its' own things. Sufficient for the day is its' own trouble.


Good advice for myself, really...;)
 
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I'm just recovering from diarrhea of the mouth, whose aftereffects are way worse. With the lower end you're sick for awhile, but then everything's fine and you've even lost a little weight.

When my mouth is off at the races, the aftereffects can go on and on and on...
 
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Well I guess I was too optimistic. I woke up early and left the motel room, warmed up the pickup and took off. I ran into the snow after leaving Albequerque and the tension from driving allmost wore me out in a couple of hours. Road crews put sand down which worked great but I ddin't notice that it ran out and I came up over a hill and 2 cars where moving slow and I hit the brakes and allmost plowed into them. Got that heart to pumping. Vehicles were scattered all over the place for miles. Tractor trailer trucks turned over and abadoned cars made it look like a parking lot.

Had it is 4 wheel drive and though I had taken it out when I got clear of the ice. Was tooling along some 30 miles later and saw smoke comming out from behind the truck. Pulled over and the frount differential was smoking and dripping oil from the seals. Stank something fierce. Seems I didn't get it all the way out of 4 wheel drive and allmost burned and locked up the front end. The light indicator on the dash showed it was out but i guess it's faulty. Took it to Jiffy Lube and they put more fluid in and I made it to Phoenix. Now I have to take it to a transmisson place and get it fixed.......what fun :)

Thanks for the prayers.



Gee, sorry to hear you had so much trouble. I hope the rest of trip goes better. :)
 
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I need to sit down here for a bit...again. :sigh:

I was in another part of the forum, and found that folks out there don't all think Lutherans are Christians. Oh, no one said that outright, but the tone was definately there. Made me rather sad.

I know my plan was to keep this thread light...but sometimes I need my Lutheran friends for comfort.

Is there more to being a Christian than believing in Jesus as your Lord and Savior? Am I supposed to feel something, that I'm not feeling?

I do tend to think too much. I know I shouldn't do that.

Thanks for listening,
seajoy
 
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Is there more to being a Christian than believing in Jesus as your Lord and Savior? Am I supposed to feel something, that I'm not feeling?
I dont know....perhaps someone would care to enlighten us how christians "should feel". ;) :cool:
 
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When I was a young adult, the traditional denominations took a beating. They were (and in some places as well as my daughter) called 'dead faiths'. Many non-aligned churches sprung up. Some like Calvary chapel were good. Some like Jim Jones' group, and Branch Davidian, weren't.:eek: In the end, I came back to the Luthern faith. There's something to be said for a church with boundries.


Now, forgive me please, (LOL) I'm not too sure what the ELCA is.;) Sadly, it doesn't seem as if they do either sometimes...:scratch:

It seems to me that some of the most clueless of the denominations are the most arrogant. Don't listen to them, Seajoy. The Luthern Church has it's problems, true. One of those is being a bit hide-bound to five hundred year old doctrine and theology. Still, it's a bit better to be somewhat hide-bound than blown to and fro by the winds of change and pop culture.;)

Well, if you ladies will forgive me. I believe I'll wash out the pot and turn in for the night. Anyone for Biglow's Plantation Mint tea tomorrow?
 
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When I was a young adult, the traditional denominations took a beating. They were (and in some places as well as my daughter) called 'dead faiths'. Many non-aligned churches sprung up. Some like Calvary chapel were good. Some like Jim Jones' group, and Branch Davidian, weren't.:eek: In the end, I came back to the Luthern faith. There's something to be said for a church with boundries.


Now, forgive me please, (LOL) I'm not too sure what the ELCA is.;) Sadly, it doesn't seem as if they do either sometimes...:scratch:

It seems to me that some of the most clueless of the denominations are the most arrogant. Don't listen to them, Seajoy. The Luthern Church has it's problems, true. One of those is being a bit hide-bound to five hundred year old doctrine and theology. Still, it's a bit better to be somewhat hide-bound than blown to and fro by the winds of change and pop culture.;)

Well, if you ladies will forgive me. I believe I'll wash out the pot and turn in for the night. Anyone for Biglow's Plantation Mint tea tomorrow?
Thanks for the kind words...and yes, I'd like to try that tea :) .
 
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Probably because we did not make a decision and were baptised as infants. I am guessing on that. There are people out there that think if you did not get down on your knees and ask Jesus to come into your life than you did not do it right so are not saved.

Now we all know that our salvation is not because of what we did, but what Jesus did.

I am thankful that my faith is not based on feelings. Feelings can be so wishy washy, come and go. Our Lord is always there, never wavering, ready with open arms when we wander.

Off to bed for me with a nice warm blanket on a bitter cold, snowy night.
 
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Probably because we did not make a decision and were baptised as infants. I am guessing on that. There are people out there that think if you did not get down on your knees and ask Jesus to come into your life than you did not do it right so are not saved.

Now we all know that our salvation is not because of what we did, but what Jesus did.

I am thankful that my faith is not based on feelings. Feelings can be so wishy washy, come and go. Our Lord is always there, never wavering, ready with open arms when we wander.

Off to bed for me with a nice warm blanket on a bitter cold, snowy night.
Quilt Angel...you are right about the decision thing, that was part of it...and so was the anointing of the Holy Spirit. That you can't get to heaven without it.

Isn't it the Holy Spirit that keeps us on the track towards Christ? That's what I was always taught. When I talked of us having assurance of our salvation, throughout the bible...the next post said satan sure is sly! What's up with that?

Hope you stayed warm last night QA :sleep: !

seajoy
 
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That is the difference between those churches and our own. The answer to this question gives the key to the problem:

What is the basis of the certainty of your salvation?

They most often answer with "I have faith" (person focused).

For Lutherans, "I believe what Christ did for me" (Christ focused).

Now, most or all would claim that they are "Christ focused", but it is still from their own perspective ("How strongly I believe", "my anointing", etc.)


In Christ's love,
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We receive the Holy Spirit in our baptism. That is a stumbling block to so many. The idea of making a decision and annointing of the Holy Spirit is so prevalent in the world. They are also so arrogant to think that any other way you are not saved.

The thing that scares me is that we have people who are buying into that way of thinking in our churches. Especially among those who are not faithful in worship andstudy.

Yes, I did stay warm. We are now in a snow and blowing snow advisory this afternoon and all night so it looks like a stay inside, curl up with a blanket and hot chocolat or something.
 
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You know, that kind of thinking is what killed off the Puritant movement. They based your level of salvation on your conversion experiance. In the end, it was mostly women who had these ecstatic experiances. The men began to gravitate strongly away from the church. The early dutch settlers summed it up very well in a rhyme:

"You may and you mighn't,
You will and you won't,
but you're dammed if you do,
and you're dammed if you don't."

Sound familliar? The last two lines have become a proverb for a futile situation. Reminds me of these religion who so closely examine the 'conversion experiance; "How many CCs did you cry?" That's why I base my faith solely on Christ and what he did.

"On Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand." :amen:

Oh! There's the kettle singing. Anyone for tea? I'll be Mother...

I now have an inch and a half of ice on the Koi pond and no snow in sight. Don't know if that's a good thing or not.:scratch:
 
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