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seajoy

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Seajoy, did you get your special lamp yet? I heard on the radio this morning that 74% of northern latitude adults are Vitamin D deficient by February, due to lack of sunshine, leading to immune deficiencies among other things. They said that rickets in children are making a comeback. No wonder my mother always bundled us up and sent us outside every day for fresh air. (She dressed us in my dad's worn out insulated coveralls, with the legs cut off at the knees. They were gray so she called them our baby elephant suits.) My husband has switched a lot of our light bulbs to the "daylight" type of compact flourescents. They make a world of difference at our house.
No, my light hasn't come yet. They don't ship it until 12 days after it's ordered. :doh: It's probably from a southern state, where they are basking in the sun instead of sending me my light!:mad:
God has blessed me with many days of sunshine as of late. Tuesday, it was all cloudy though, and I found myself blubbering like a baby again. Amazing what "light" does for us. :)
 
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Maybe they were depressed and just couldn't get out of bed to send it. Or maybe the ship from China was behind. Inventory control is a big problem with seasonal demand items and I would guess the orders are flying in right now, it's right about the time of year where so many get so bad that they've gone to the doctor and gotten diagnosed and then ordered. I would bet you could plot the weather by their sales with about a 10 day lag.

Anyway the vitamin D deficiency is a big thing.

A Caucasian needs about 1/4 the time of exposure to sunlight that would turn the skin pink on a very regular basis to avoid vitamin D deficiency without supplements.

Negroes commonly need 5 to 10 times longer exposure. You can bet right now today the incidence of vitamin D deficiency among dark skinned Negroes in a northern city like say Chicago or Detroit among those not taking supplements is probably approaching 100 percent.

This is seriously implicated in a few health problems. Depression, osteoporosis, myopathy, hypertension, influenza, chronic pain, heart disease, thyroid problems, autoimmune diseases, and some others too. Usually due to the seasonal exposure people don't develop full blown rickets in the US, but it's common among those Muslim women who completely cover up before going out. It's acutally an unusual woman in those groups who is not vitamin D deficient.

And this deficiency and resulting depression actually causes people to do all sorts of things.

Like spring break in the south where you run around mostly naked and feel better than you have sitting in class in months. Or the winter vacation in the south for the same reason. Go to the tanning salon because you feel so good. And so on. Like most things people will overdo it. You don't really need to tan. Tanning actually increases the exposure needed. And tanning beds focus on the wrong type of UV light. For vitamin D you need UVB for tanning you need UVA. Tanning beds give off some UVA but you get a relatively high dosage of UVB.

A white skinned person needs about 20 minutes of exposure of their arms and face a day.

I'm not a big pill person, but most people really should take a couple of the combined calcium-vitamin D pill a day during the winter. We'd be a happier society if we did.

The SADD lights aren't really designed to give you the vitamin D production. You can get Vitamin D lights too.

The whole thing is, it's a fairly simple test to test the vitamin D level in the blood, but it's very seldom done. I would almost bet money that the SADD light was prescribed without even testing the level of vitamin D. Lack of sunlight produces both, presence of one doesn't exclude the other. But you can sit in front of a SADD light until the cows come home and if your problem is also a vitamin D deficiency, it won't be totally effective.

Sorry, about the rant. Just one of those things I've learned about over the years. It would be nice to find a doctor or two who practiced medicine but that's a difficult thing to do. Can't imagine how any physician would prescribe antidepressants without automatically testing vitamin D and manage to keep a medical license but that's probably why they are wealthy and I'm not.

Oh well, I guess they can't be up on everything. You should see the look you get when you tell them you'd like to test for the level of substance P in your brain.

I haven't gotten one to prescribe a substance P inhibitor either even though there are a couple on the market. Guess I'll have to stick to the Capsaicin for now.



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Yet the Scandinavians are some of the easiest going and most tolerant folks on the planet (until the muslims push them too far). Must be those cheap flights and mini holidays to sunny Spain and Italy. ;)


Do you folks with fibro take Glucosamine-Chondroitin or does it not help? I've been on it for about 2 months now and the difference in joint pain is incredible. My knees are bone-to-bone and normally winter is awful as is the pain and swelling when I work too hard, but lately, I have no issues at all. :thumbsup:
 
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It doesn't help directly but it does indirectly. I can tell a definite difference in my back with taking the glucosamine-chondroitin. Seems to mostly be the glucosamine. Maybe I eat enough cartilage and insects to get the equivalent of the chondroitin anyway.

See the thing is with fibro what you would feel as some stiffness or some pressure, people with fibro feel pain. So joint problems are a constant pain festival for people with fibro. The the extent that the supplement can help with joint health, it can be a big help in relieving pain.

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Does taking calcium help? How about weight bearing exercise?
I know that when my back bothers me, time on the BowFlex provides the best relief and when my knees get stiff, doing uphill treks on the treadmill helps tremendously.
My ortho told me that exercise is the best medicine for pain, which makes sense, knowing what we do about endorphins and muscle tone and strength about the joints. Fibro must be a different kind of problem, though, but surely staying mobile would help on some level, wouldn't it?
 
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Like spring break in the south where you run around mostly naked and feel better
So....if I buy one of Porter's Texas homes and run around naked, I should be fine, huh? :eek::cool: :)

You are a wealth of information, Marv. On behalf of the folks here in TCL, we thank you for sharing all the smarts God gave you. :hug: I mean that seriously....no joke.

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Does taking calcium help? How about weight bearing exercise?
I know that when my back bothers me, time on the BowFlex provides the best relief and when my knees get stiff, doing uphill treks on the treadmill helps tremendously.
My ortho told me that exercise is the best medicine for pain, which makes sense, knowing what we do about endorphins and muscle tone and strength about the joints. Fibro must be a different kind of problem, though, but surely staying mobile would help on some level, wouldn't it?
Weight bearing exercize is not recomended for fibro. Walking and swimming are. This cold snap has played a number on my wanting to go to the pool for my swim. Mostly, I try to go 3 times a week. I went on tuesday. It does help, if I don't overdo it.
 
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I am so tired of winter too!

Okay, I stopped by and found a few posts that I just had to reply to. Don't get too use to me being here right now, I head out on a winter vacation on Sunday and won't return for 13 days. Yes, it is to a nice warm place. Yippee!!
 
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I am so tired of winter too!

Okay, I stopped by and found a few posts that I just had to reply to. Don't get too use to me being here right now, I head out on a winter vacation on Sunday and won't return for 13 days. Yes, it is to a nice warm place. Yippee!!
Quilty!!!!!!! I miss you lots! :hug: Have fun on your trip. :wave: Don't forget us when you get back. :)
 
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Well sis, you could come here to lovely Trinity County and enjoy not only sunshine but great fishing too!;) It's been beautiful for the last week and I can even get up and down the driveway with the stationwagon now.

Spring has sprung!:clap:

The first Crocus has opened!:clap: It's a lovely purple and the other bulbs should be following shortly. I suppose that means that those of you in the north central/east should be seeing the sun shortly. Actually, Seajoy, your light should come just when the weather breaks. I mean, isn't that usually the way it works?;)

Hope you all have a great Friday and weekend.:wave:
 
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I am so tired of winter too!

Okay, I stopped by and found a few posts that I just had to reply to. Don't get too use to me being here right now, I head out on a winter vacation on Sunday and won't return for 13 days. Yes, it is to a nice warm place. Yippee!!

As I begged in a PM...TAKE ME WITH YOU ^_^

Have a great time!
 
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PR, where did you find the can opener?

Studeclunker, my crocuses almost always start blooming March 28, give or take a day or two. Right now, they have 2 feet of snow on them. I have started watching for robins and grackles. The grackles come back a week or two before the robins.
 
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