Think I'll sit down here for a bit... (12)

[seajoy]

really? Sounds good. Which thread would that be?

Sharing this forum with people who read whatever they want into the bible is just so much fun.

 

[seajoy]

wanna-be's huh? Sorta like they are wanna-be Lutherans.

 

[seajoy]

Taking a break for today - or however long it takes. The libs have the floor and I don't want to see it. Have a great day, friends.

 

[Zecryphon]

Well, it appears that my younger-older Brother and my Sister are both gone. Wendy passed in 2001 and Blaine in 2007, and I just found out today. Why would anyone choose to die alone like that? Seems that my brother's telephone remained on and operating for several months after his death. I called and left my current phone number when moving here. That explains why he never called back. He could at least have told me about Wendy.

I'm sorry for your loss, Stude. That's so sad and my biggest fear next to the big spiders, is dying alone.

 

[Tangible]

Wow. I am amazed at how many people in GT, even some of the long-time bastions of GT, accept that mankind evolved from apes. I'm stunned.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7572380/

 

[Luther073082]

Does anyone else find it funny that apparently you can't promote homosexuality in the congregation forums. . . but the ELCA as an organization promotes homosexuality.

In all actuallity I have to admit I don't like the rule. Mostly because it just doesn't feel fair to me.

Like we can talk about and be negative about homosexuality all we want and thats cool. But its basically against the rules for anyone to disagree with us? I mean how would you feel if it was the other way around?

Talk about limiting the debate.

 

[Bryne]

Is that why that thread disappeared?

 

[seajoy]

Does anyone else find it funny that apparently you can't promote homosexuality in the congregation forums. . . but the ELCA as an organization promotes homosexuality.

In all actuallity I have to admit I don't like the rule. Mostly because it just doesn't feel fair to me.

Like we can talk about and be negative about homosexuality all we want and thats cool. But its basically against the rules for anyone to disagree with us? I mean how would you feel if it was the other way around?

Talk about limiting the debate.

Who cares. It's against the bible.

 

[LilLamb219]

My condolences, Stude, on your loss of siblings

 

[LilLamb219]

Let dear old Dad know that joining the Studebaker Driver's Club will make owning that car a lot easier. He'll have access to help and parts that aren't otherwise easy to find.

Does the car look something like this:

I just went over to my dad's today and saw the car! It looks exactly like your photo!!!

 

[Luther073082]

Is that why that thread disappeared?

Thats my guess, in another thread a mod posted that you can't promote homosexuality in the congregational forums.

Which one what does a congregation do if part of its teachings promote homosexuality? You are going to tell that congreagation they can't promote their own teachings in their own forum? Thats kind of like telling the Roman Catholics and the EO that they can't promote apostolic succession in their own forums.

Second its just not right to stifle debate. And an rule with the effect of you can talk about homosexuality but you can't promote it basically says that your position must be against homosexuality or maybe neutral.

 

[Bryne]

I have to agree.

 

[Zecryphon]

I tried to find the thread where this rule was proposed and debated at length, but I can't find it anymore. I think it ran 80 pages or something. But I think the rule basically boils down to censorship.

 

[Luther073082]

I tried to find the thread where this rule was proposed and debated at length, but I can't find it anymore. I think it ran 80 pages or something. But I think the rule basically boils down to censorship.

I agree. . . especially since it falls just to one side. I can totally see certain forums where they say, don't talk about these topics period because they are controversial and this forum isn't for debating.

But to say, you can talk about homosexuality but you can't promote it censors one side which isn't really fair nor conductive to any sort of discussion.

And really its just not how I would want to be treated if the roles where reversed.

 

[Zecryphon]

I agree. . . especially since it falls just to one side. I can totally see certain forums where they say, don't talk about these topics period because they are controversial and this forum isn't for debating.

But to say, you can talk about homosexuality but you can't promote it censors one side which isn't really fair nor conductive to any sort of discussion.

And really its just not how I would want to be treated if the roles where reversed.

This is a rather new rule, within the last year I think and I believe CF is erring on the side of peace here. I mean if someone comes along and starts a thread that says "I can prove God approves of homosexual sex," you're gonna have a massive war on your hands between liberals and conservatives.

This issue, along with abortion can not be discussed civilly for the most part. I spent years in the Debates on Homosexuality sub-forum in Christian Philosophy and Ethics and I can tell you, that whole place was a giant flame war. This rule is CF's way of avoiding that. Is it fair? No. But when you've got a whole sub-forum of people that just end up fighting and reporting and spite reporting, then what's the point?

It's supposed to be allowed to be discussed in the Congregational sections and a few others and I thought we were doing that a couple of days ago with JonSeeker and his thread where he thought he could make a Biblical case for homosexual sex not being sinful. I don't recall him ever saying it was good or God declared homosexual sex to not be sin, but I could have missed it too. So why that thread is gone is beyond me.

 

[DaRev]

I don't see what the issue is. We as Christians shouldn't be promoting homosexuality at all anyway. Why defend the right to promote something that is considered an abomination by God? We shouldn't be promoting it. We should be speaking God's truth against it.

 

[Zecryphon]

I agree that we should not promote it. But this rule essentially silences the other side. If they are not allowed to post their errant beliefs, how are we given the chance to correct them? This rule hurts both sides actually.

 

[seajoy]

I don't see what the issue is. We as Christians shouldn't be promoting homosexuality at all anyway. Why defend the right to promote something that is considered an abomination by God? We shouldn't be promoting it. We should be speaking God's truth against it.

I agree - sin should be sin across the board in any denomination. It's about high time something was done about this subject.

 

[DaRev]

Let them be silenced. The truth can always be preached without promoting sin.

 

[Studeclunker]

I just went over to my dad's today and saw the car! It looks exactly like your photo!!!

LOL, your poor mother! Give your father this link, he'll need all the help he can get:

General Studebaker-Specific Discussion

Have him join the forum and post a thread. The members there would love to hear about his new acqusition. There's also a technical forum to help with engine, body, chassis, electrical and anything else he needs help with. Believe me, there are people who really love to help get these cars back on to the road. After all it is the Studebaker Driver's Club after all.

In the meantime, if dear old Dad is not a member of the Studebaker Driver's Club, he needs to be. Otherwise it's going to be much more difficult to work on that car. The resources, assistance and encouragement will really be beyond price.

By the by, I only just gave that car away. A fellow who lives and works in the San Fransisco Bay Area stashed it at his brother's place about ten miles from me.