Things that are Adiaphora

filosofer · Jul 12, 2005

SLStrohkirch said:
Aghhh he's like me. He wants to be technical about it.

In this case, it is for a reason. In order to discuss theological topics, it is important to maintain consistent terminology (look what happened with one letter at Nicea).

Hey filo, if your wife says the time is 8:00 do you ever correct her and say "no, its 7:58", or "No it's 8:02".

Absolutely - that is not an adiaphoron!

SPALATIN · Jul 12, 2005

filosofer said:
In this case, it is for a reason. In order to discuss theological topics, it is important to maintain consistent terminology (look what happened with one letter at Nicea).

Absolutely - that is not an adiaphoron!

I knew it.

filosofer · Jul 12, 2005

Another adiaphoron: adoration of Mary

ByzantineDixie · Jul 12, 2005

filosofer said:
Another adiaphoron: adoration of Mary

Adoration...hmmm...maybe that's not the best word for it but certainly all generations shall call the Theotokos, the Mother of God, blessed.

From Luke 1:

41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!"
46And Mary said:
"My soul glorifies the Lord
47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
48for he has been mindful
of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
49for the Mighty One has done great things for me
holy is his name.

But I promise I won't get into a Mary discussion in this thread...this will be it from me.

filosofer · Jul 12, 2005

What took you so long?

I think there is a danger in some of the movements within Lutheran groups to over-emphasize Mary. And then we have to remember the Scriptural position. I indeed refer to Mary as Blessed, as Scripture, but not ever-Virgin.

Okay, enough for me too.

C.F.W. Walther · Jul 12, 2005

emaculate deception?

:/

filosofer · Jul 12, 2005

filosofer · Jul 12, 2005

Other adiaphora:

Drinking alcoholic beverages (which becomes forbidden if excess)
Liturgical calendar
Church festivals/seasons (Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, Easter, Pentecost, etc; note that our weekly worship on Sunday is the only [by example] "observed" celebration of the resurrection")
Computer choice (but Macs will be used in heaven )
Clergy vestments

Protoevangel · Jul 12, 2005

filosofer said:
Other adiaphora:

Drinking alcoholic beverages (which becomes forbidden if excess)

Unless, of course, a teetotaler tells you that drinking is forbidden. Then you are under compulsion to drink around him!

filosofer said:
Computer choice (but Macs will be used in heaven )

But the Macs in heaven will be using Linux!

SPALATIN · Jul 13, 2005

DanHead said:
Unless, of course, a teetotaler tells you that drinking is forbidden. Then you are under compulsion to drink around him!

Yeah that and heavy machinery.

Qoheleth · Jul 13, 2005

The danger in the Lutheran church is that everything has become or eventually becomes adiaphora.

Q

filosofer · Jul 13, 2005

Or just as bad, making something that is adiaphoron and declaring it is absolute.

Neither extreme reflects God's Word.

Qoheleth · Jul 13, 2005

Absolute?? How about recognizing the Lord's grace and the fullness of the church that seeks to hasten the work of our Savior

Q

filosofer · Jul 13, 2005

Not sure where you going with this? Have I indicated anything other than that?

Tetzel · Jul 18, 2005

Is the belief in the virginity of Mary beyond the birth of Christ not adiaphoric?

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