1 Then let me ask you this way: Disregarding their legal right to strike and speak (which I agree they may exercise) for the moment, do you agree with the workers' refusal to build the mosque? Do you think it is the right thing to do under these circumstances?
2 Opposing the building of a mosque for moderate American muslims (and to all my knowledge the group behind the proposed mosque qualify as such) and practically identifying them with those responsible for 9/11 is certainly apt to create hostility and enstrangement.
p1: I believe they have the right to decide for themselves. If they find no one to do it, then it must be quite a majority of construction workers that think as I do. Bad place to build.
p2: moderate is in question. Identifying the religion of the attackers with the one they want to build the mosque links the 9-11 to the victory center. Even if the most moderate Muslims build it, the most extreme Muslims would consider it a pilgramage to pray at the Mosque on ground zero.
The landmark historical society,
can keep buildings from being built.
If they had claimed it as a landmark,
they can not do demolition,
and must renovate to the original image of the building,
inside and out.
The society did this to an old theater in Flushing Queens,
The RKO Keiths closed in the 80s, and since proclaimed as a historic landmark,
it has been boarded up,
and the site sticks out like a sore thumb.
The owners changed hands a couple times,
no one are able to build due to the cost
and a theater there is just not profitable,
the original plan was to be a shopping mall.
So it can be stopped if goverment/people want it too.
Currently goverment is not willing to act, even with the objections of the people.
1 Construction was halted on a Federal building in lower Manhattan when the
Negro Burial Grounds was unearthed, but only temporarily while the remains were excavated. There's a big old office building there now. If a place were to be on the National Register of Historic Places then it would be preserved.
2 However, it would be highly unlikely that a building
two blocks away from the actual site could be placed on it and not Ground Zero itself. There is nothing really sacred about an old retail store and nothing to distinguish this particular building from all the other buildings on the block. The only thing interesting about this site is that some people don't want a particular religious prayer room there.
p1: like someone else said Goverment can slow or stop building if they wanted too.
p2:Two blocks, you are the first to say how far away it is. two blocks?
The call to prayer will be heard by visitors of to ground zero.
hard for people not in New York to know how far we are talking. People say ground zero, while two blocks is not actually ground zero, it is still close.
prayer room? Prayer room, I thought it was a full scale Mosque, with several floors. Replacing a high rise with a small prayer room? Worth that much to this group? Worth the fight?
Thanks to another thread, I noticed that "American Muslim" There are at least 4 mosques in New York city area. 7 in NY state. (probably more, just in these pictures they identify NY man times) So its not that NY doesn't want a mosque, they just don't like the choice of sights.
I too.
Where to start...the community center is NOT a celebration of the 9-11 tragedy nor is it an Islamic victory center and it is not on Ground Zero (new commercial office buildings are slated for the actual Ground Zero)
That is what supporters of the building say, but what the people building plan to do with it could be a different story. Even if everything goes as planned, there would still be the people coming to pray in victory of 9-11.
When they dance in celebration on 9-11 in this mosque, who will stop them?
Maybe they should look somewhere debris from 9-11 didn't fall. Where the bodys of injured weren't laid for transport. Where survivors fled the collapse.
I do not see why a group would want to build a religious building in the face of the people that survived the attack. Supporters say we're linking all muslims together if we oppose this mosque. Opposers say that ground zero is a place that should be kept as a memorial to those that died and the heroic actions of those that helped people survive. To build a temple of the religion of the attackers would be desecrating the sight. For people mourning the loss of life and tradgedy, to hear a call to prayer of the attackers religion would be the ultimate victory for the attackers.
The only reason to build near 9-11 is for a victory center or as a Muslim
travesty. I do not think they would build a place to worship in a religious tradgedy.
How far away?
maybe 4 blocks or farther.
I doubt very much this was just a coincidence. That they never even thought of 9-11 when they bought the land.
I still support them building anywhere else in New York or in almost any place in the USA. Just not on/near sights where the most evil of their religion murdered hundreds/thousands of people.
Strip club: as far as I know, no stripper was a part of the conspiracy. There were a couple people of some religion on the planes, and involved in the planning.
It is sad they have not rebuilt on the actual sight. That in itself is a disgrace. We need to build it back and show that we will overcome what they(terrorists) do to us. Of course, I do not know if New York could use another high rise in the current economical conditions. Better not to rebuild a vacant building with no purpose.
That's pretty specious. It's ironic that a community center with a prayer room is considered "indecent" but a strip club is not.
