They deny the Saving Efficacy of the Death of Christ !

[Clare73]

Yes, so we must have good fruit in order to confirm the heart's opinion of itself.

Which is not necessarily a confirmation. . .confirmation by a works-based salvation is not actually proof.

I'm stickin' with the word of God in Ro 8:16.

The Spirit is able to testify in a way that is not deceptive.

Your God is too small.

 

[fhansen]

Which is not necessarily a confirmation. . .confirmation by a works-based salvation is not actually proof.

I'm stickin' with the word of God in Ro 8:16.

I'll stick with the whole word of God, that includes the fact that we must do works, overcome sin, be holy, obey the commandments, now by the power of the Holy Spirit once justified, in order to see God, to enter heaven.

 

[Clare73]

Yes, so we must have good fruit in order to confirm the heart's opinion of itself. So...both- and even then God will have the final say.

I'll stick with the whole word of God, that includes the fact that we must do works, overcome sin, be holy, in order to see God, enter heaven.

None of which is a guarantee. . .(Mt 7:21-23) that they are among those given to him (Jn 6:39).

 

[fhansen]

None of which is a guarantee. . .

Neither are your feelings. But, with the two together, one has the closest thing to a guarantee possible this side of heaven.

 

[Clare73]

Neither are your feelings. But, with the two together, one has the closest thing to a guarantee possible this side of heaven.

The witness of he Holy Spirit is not "feeling," any more than knowing is feeling.

I don't feel my car wont' start, I know it won't start.

 

[fhansen]

The witness of he Holy Spirit is not "feeling," any more than knowing is feeling.

I don't feel my car wont' start, I know it won't start.

Well, maybe it's time to get a new car.

 

[Clare73]

Well, maybe it's time to get a new car.

Or simply get it in order. . .