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"People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.
I saw this quote in an article in another post on this forum, http://www.christianforums.com/t1137192-bush-smarter-than-me-and-kerry.html and it reminded me of my high school days and how I would memorize large words to pass tests. I didn't understand evolution back then, but I believed it. Now that I understand it better, I have become convinced, no, make that convicted, of the truth of the bible.
 

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I am convinced this is the case with many claiming to believe in evolution. The average 'man on the street' doesn't have much of an idea about the issues raised in these forums. Evolution's popularity relies on trust in the integrity and technical expertise of those who promote the theories. Alas.

We today are blessed with a number of fantastic Christian resources not available to previous generations. I'm thinking in particular of groups like AIG, and ICR. It is sad that so many Christians are not prepared to give careful consideration to the arguments they present before selling out to evolution.

Many of the arguments raised by TE's on this forum can be easily rebutted with reference to these resources. They clearly have not given them the attention they deserve. The motivation for belief in evolution and attempts to reconcile evolution with the Scriptures appears to be a desire for intellectual respectibility, rather than intellectual honesty.
 
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Micaiah said:
I am convinced this is the case with many claiming to believe in evolution. The average 'man on the street' doesn't have much of an idea about the issues raised in these forums.
Micaiah – This is a point that I tried to make in the Evolution vs. Creation debate forum, and I got a reprimanded by a Theistic Evolutionist who said:
No, that is not more likely in the least. In fact, it is incredibly insulting. Those Christians who accept evolution tend to be the ones who know the most about it, which is borne out by the evidence of this very forum. As for the references throughout the Bible, are you saying that people can not refer to non-literal events which convey literal truths? That they can not even compare them and tie them to literal events?
Obviously, this person doesn’t hold Genesis 1-2 to be literal even though there is nothing to indicate that it’s anything other than that or the fact that other passages in the Bible refer back to it as a literal events.

All I can say, is that Satan is very clever.
 
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It is very true that evolutionary scientists know that the average guy on the street cannot comprehend the technical jargon of modern science. It is stagering how blatant they are in this regard and how vocal they are about other peoples theology. Any kind of a belief in God as the creator of life in a Biblically accurate timeline is considered ignorant of science, deceptive and even blasphemous.

This is a famous scientist that was on of the primary architects of what came to be called to modern synthesis. It is the height of foolishness for Christians to ignore the attack on core aspects of the Gospel of our salvation. There is a clear and distinct theology to evolution theory and it is an exclusivly secular worldview that wants to expung all theological reasoning from academics and society.

"The estimates of the age of the earth, of the duration of the geologic and paleontologic eras, and of the antiquity of man's ancestors are now based mainly on radiometric evidence the proportions of isotopes of certain chemical elements in rocks suitable for such studies...Shiek bin Baz and his like refuse to accept the radiometric evidence, because it is a "mere theory". What is the alternative? One can suppose that the Creator saw fit to play deceitful tricks on geologists and biologists. He carefully arranged to have various rocks provided with isotope ratios just right to mislead us into thinking that certain rocks are 2 billion years old, others 2 million,"

(Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975) March 1973)

What the synthesis is, is the merging of Medel's laws of inheritance (modern genetics) and the philosophy of Darwin. Darwin's natural selection was criticised into obscurity for some 50 years and it produced nothing scientific or credible that could stand up to critical review. What is remarkable is that while his work was very popular the real work of science was being done by a Creationist, Gregory Mendel who did ground breaking research into the development of hybrids. As the result of some 10,000 experiments with bean plants two laws of inheritance(not theories, hypothesis or concepts) were developed and are still valid as reliable and usefull as they were 150 years ago. What they did was to highjack genuine scientific research to disguise their antitheistic belief systems. This has come to be known in modern times as liberalism.

I have studied this issue for just over a year and this is nothing but metaphysics (a principle that transends all reality).

"One of the great thinkers of our age, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, wrote the following:Is evolution a theory, a system, or a hypothesis? It is much more: it is a general postulate to which all theories, all hypotheses, all systems must henceforward bow and which they must satisfy in order to be thinkable and true. Evolution is a light which illuminates all facts, a trajectory which all lines of though must follow this is what evolution is." (Theodosius Dobzhansky, cited above)

After literally hundreds of exchanges with evolutionists I am convinced that descent from a universal common ancestor is pagan mythology thinly disquised as science. Currently I am researching the hominoid fossils(ancestors to apes and humans only) and hominids (ancestors to humans only) and I will tell you one thing for certain. There is no missing link, there are thousands of them at crucial points of development. I just wanted to come in here and get some of this off my chest.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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mark kennedy said:
It is very true that evolutionary scientists know that the average guy on the street cannot comprehend the technical jargon of modern science. It is stagering how blatant they are in this regard and how vocal they are about other peoples theology. Any kind of a belief in God as the creator of life in a Biblically accurate timeline is considered ignorant of science, deceptive and even blasphemous.
Very true! They also want us to abandon all logic and common sense.

On one hand they say that “evolution” is only a process that occurs after life existed by processes of selection, but then by necessity have to go back to the origin of life in which selection can’t occur without some mechanism for replication.

Now, with all their “knowledge” and ability to subject chemicals to whatever conditions they want, I have yet to read where they have really created organic life (that is replicating) from non-life. But, they would have us believe that it all came about by natural forces, and that those blind forces influenced life forms to achieve what we see now in nature with all its beauty, diversity and complexity.

The following link provides articles where they think they have proven the origin of life from non-life, but it falls into the category of the jargon that you mention, and I would think that if any of them were a proven system, that the mass media would have widely publicized it since they tend to be backed by sources that promote evolution.
Currently I am researching the hominoid fossils(ancestors to apes and humans only) and hominids (ancestors to humans only) and I will tell you one thing for certain. There is no missing link, there are thousands of them at crucial points of development. I just wanted to come in here and get some of this off my chest.
Keep in mind, that if any of these fossils are found in upper sediments and with tools etc., that they are descendants of Noah’s family that came off the ark. Pre-flood humans were buried deeper, or rotted in the waters after a year, and would not be found in the state that they’re in. Even that one that was found buried in ice high on a mountain top was not there because he was running away from the flood waters. The waters would have melted any ice and he would have rotted, and the ice age occurred after the flood.

Anyway, have fun studying the issue.
 
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keyarch said:

Very true! They also want us to abandon all logic and common sense.

They remind me of the Catholic clerics who wanted the Bible all to themselves so they could just tell everyone what it said. Tyndal was the man who translated something like 85% of what came to be the King James Version. He said to clerics in England once that if he had his way a plowboy would know more about the Bible then they did. He spent the rest of his life facing persecution and eventually ended up being burned at the stake. We have something simular in modern science only the clerics are wearing lab coats and suits.

On one hand they say that “evolution” is only a process that occurs after life existed by processes of selection, but then by necessity have to go back to the origin of life in which selection can’t occur without some mechanism for replication.

That's right and not only does there have to be a change in the DNA it in fact has to be written and revised. I must also be inheritable and produce a selective advantage.

Now, with all their “knowledge” and ability to subject chemicals to whatever conditions they want, I have yet to read where they have really created organic life (that is replicating) from non-life. But, they would have us believe that it all came about by natural forces, and that those blind forces influenced life forms to achieve what we see now in nature with all its beauty, diversity and complexity.

Don't you think for a second that they are not aware of this fact of science. Dr. Periannan Senapathy head a biotech company and does cutting edge research in bioenginering. Check out this statement:

Senapathy's search for the origin of the first life on earth from inanimate matter led him to solve a more interesting and central problem in biology-the origin and diversity of life on earth. During his graduate work and initial post-doc research, he was a staunch disciple of Darwin's theory of evolution. Having absolutely no tinge of doubt that the model of evolution was the answer to the question of the diversity of living forms on earth, Senapathy got intensely interested on the question of the origin of life itself on earth where there was no life at all. He took a molecular biological approach of asking how the genes and the genome of the first living cell-thought to be a bacterium like cell-could have originated from the random primordial DNA material that could have been synthesized by natural chemical means in the primordial pond on the primitive earth. With his computer programming expertise that he acquired for finding answers to these questions, he analyzed random DNA sequences and the possible genes that could originate from them for protein coding sequences.​


After extensive analyses, astonishing to him, he solved the problem of the origin of first living cell on earth-that it was not the bacterium like cell that was the very first life on earth but the eukaryotic cells with nucleus and other paraphernalia and all of their complexity. This finding showed that the branching model of evolution was not necessary to explain the diversity of living forms on earth, and, in fact, that it was basically incorrect. He could show that the same mechanisms that lead to the genome of one eukaryotic cell could lead to the genomes of zygotic cells of many different multicellular organisms. He formulated a new model for explaining the multiple and simultaneous origins of diverse and unique organisms on earth from a given primordial pond-the model of parallel origin of genomes from a common pool of genes. It took him many more years to complete the research and publish all his findings in a book titled Independent Birth of Organisms in 1994 (Genome Press).​
Dr. Periannan Senapathy

Darwinian evolution does not work and he began moving forward when he finally came to the conclusion that the cells did not progressively accumulate characteristics from simple bacteria to fully developed eukaryotic cells. What he is in effect saying is that the eukaryotic cells were fully formed all at once.

The following link provides articles where they think they have proven the origin of life from non-life, but it falls into the category of the jargon that you mention, and I would think that if any of them were a proven system, that the mass media would have widely publicized it since they tend to be backed by sources that promote evolution.

You might think I have lost my mind but actually evolution in general and natural selection in particular prevent descent from a common ancestor. That is why we can't find these transitionals every where we look because these changes would not provide a selective advantage.

A prime example is the poster child of transitional fossils, Archaeopteryx. They actually believe that reptiles turned into birds over time. Now what you have to realize is that it has to change from cold to warm blooded, the lungs have to change down to fundamental functions, limbs have to morph into wings...etc. There is just one problem with this, these major changes in the metabolism of successive generations would kill these creatures. If there is no selective advantage then natural selection eliminates them through mass extinction. Like I have said, they want to supposed a process of change that their own science tells us is impossible.

Keep in mind, that if any of these fossils are found in upper sediments and with tools etc., that they are descendants of Noah’s family that came off the ark. Pre-flood humans were buried deeper, or rotted in the waters after a year, and would not be found in the state that they’re in. Even that one that was found buried in ice high on a mountain top was not there because he was running away from the flood waters. The waters would have melted any ice and he would have rotted, and the ice age occurred after the flood.

Anyway, have fun studying the issue.

Now that is interesting, I need to think that one over and get back to you. I haven't spent a lot of time on geology but maybe it's time for me to.
 
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