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Albion

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Folks, denominational strutting, boasting, and posturing is not helping solve anything. There is no way to absolutely "prove" one right and the others wrong, although everyone is free to decide for himself what to believe.

Since, however, everyone seems to agree that all parties are Christian...and that the word "Roman" is appropriate when speaking of the Church overseen by the Pope...

why don't we just 'bury the hatchet' on this pointless sparring?
 
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You built your little pass/fail test on the rcc redefining of terms...such as how it uses the word catholic.

The CC has been around for two thousand years. Catholic means universal or of the whole.

There is only one Catholic Church and everyone knows it's base of operations. Vatican Hill.

What you are talking about is catholic with a small "c"

Which is the body of all belivers

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And the body of all believers has only 1 capital (=Head): Jesus Christ.
 
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As I said, the redefining of words. Rome adopted the catholic adjective in order to make it a noun and applied it to themselves.


The roman church did not exist in the beginning, no matter how many times rome rewrites history to fit its appetite for power.
 
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The CC has been around for two thousand years.

Only if you determine that the undivided church of hte early years has been succeeded by one and one only denomination of today. That is certainly nothing that can be proven to be true.

Catholic means universal or of the whole.

Fine...and every church thinks it is that in one way or another.

There is only one Catholic Church and everyone knows it's base of operations. Vatican Hill.

It's merely the largest of the Catholic churches. The Orthodox say they are Catholic, and they've been around longer than the Roman Church. The Old Catholics are Catholic. The independent Catholics, National Catholics, Anglo-Catholics, and Liberal Catholics are represented on this CF board also. They will all explain how they are Catholics.
 
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Speaking only of the word and its usage, it wasn't applied to the Christians until the end of the first century. That leaves it completely open as to who can claim it.

Let's go on to something else.
 
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ANd yet people disagree on when the Roman Church started.

I wonder why?

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Lots of peole want to be Catholic with a Capital "C" but then they deny CC.

Some do, I suppose. The Old Catholics say, for example, that the RCC abandoned Catholic principles, teaching, history, and tradition when it made the Pope infallible in 1870, meaning that they, the Old Catholics, would be better described by the word. But many of the others don't "deny" the RCC at all; they merely say that they are as Catholic as the RCC is.

(I'm not buying Mont's argument on this, you see, but that of other churches which normally refer to themselves as Catholics and have a connection to historic Catholic belief and practice.)
 
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Agreed.

Peace


One Head, Christ,
One body, those who are His.
And we are known by our...____________ ?
Doctrines?
Ways of administering communion?
Number of books in the Bible?



LOVE, one for another



UH ohhhhh I think we missed it.
 
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I can see the logic in that argument. Also I belive that they also have a line of succession. Meaning that they are apostolic. I belive the Anglican and Old Catholic and others.

Peace
 
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I can see the logic in that argument. Also I belive that they also have a line of succession. Meaning that they are apostolic. I belive the Anglican and Old Catholic and others.

All right. They're Apostolic. What I was saying is that they consider themselves, with good reason, to be Catholic.
 
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Since, however, everyone seems to agree that all parties are Christian...and that the word "Roman" is appropriate when speaking of the Church overseen by the Pope...

why don't we just 'bury the hatchet' on this pointless sparring?

I agree, I see this as less of a doctrine thread and more of an etiquette thread.
I thought things were going well before doctrine came into play
 
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