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Mueller is a conservative republican. You didn't know?
But he stacked his team with Hillary supporters, some of whom donated to her campaign. And yet NONE of those lawyers could actually dig up the dirt they were commissioned to find. It simply didn't happen.

And he's documented that Trump repeatedly tried to obstruct the investigation, failing only because even his people wouldn't do it for him.
Doesn't change the fact that no obstruction was done and not only that, but Trump did not keep anything hidden and called for the complete report to be released. In his frustration, he called for Mueller to be fire, but cooler heads prevailed and they explained to him why they could not fire Mueller.

Mueller’s analysis of the evidence clearly points toward an attempt to obstruct justice in that circumstance.
But no crime was committed. That is also what the evidence points to. If Mueller and Co. could have made a case for obstruction, they would have done so.


He also suggests that Trump’s efforts fell short only because his subordinates repeatedly disobeyed his instructions.
And that is a good thing.

Some of the president’s allies in the legal world, including Rudy Giuliani and Alan Dershowitz, have argued that the president can’t be charged with obstruction of justice for acts related to the exercise of his constitutional powers. But the special counsel goes to unusual lengths to rebut that analysis. The report closes with 23 pages devoted to explaining that presidents can indeed commit obstruction of justice under current federal law.
He cannot be charged with any crime connected to firing James Comey. It was his prerogative to do so. He fired Comey because Comey assured him in private that he was not under investigation, but would not publicly state that the president was not under investigation. Comey allowed the public narrative that Trump was under investigation to continue, and that is why he was fired and rightly so.

 
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It's in the U.S. code, as you have seen.
Yes I saw that. But again what official was obstructed? Trump's own advisor? If there was a threat and the threat was not communicated to the one who would be intimidated then where's the attempt to obstruct.

What you are promoting is akin to a 'thought crime.' I'm sure Trump may have thought on a daily basis to fire everyone in government. Yet that was never communicated or acted on.
 
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It's not illegal to pay people. It's illegal if one receives anything of value without paying for it.
Whoa will need to see the US Code covering pay-offs are legal when dealing with foreign agents. I'm sure Manafort would like to get a lawyer to peddle that one. ^_^

Like the attempt to do so at the Trump tower meeting.
Whose attempt? The Russian lawyer lady who also worked for Fusion GPS on occasion. The only thing smelly about the Trump Tower meeting was someone with ties to the Trump dossier tried to get Donny Jr to bite on entrapment. The Mueller report addressed this too and found out the Russian lawyer was offering and Donny Jr did not bite.

Ironically, if the Russian agents had told Don Jr. they expected to be paid for it, it would have been legal.
Yes because the Russians do things for free!
Obama-era Russian Uranium One deal: What to know
 
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What is do disturbing about not only what the Dems in Congress are saying, and what liberals are saying on this very board, is that they would have preferred for the country's security and elections to be compromised. They would have preferred for us to be less secure and are willing to put this country in danger in order to smear Trump.
Not the first time they did something like this. They did it to Bush calling him an illegitimate President due to the Florida recount. The whole world and Bin Laden saw US congressmen tell the tale of how Bush stole the election and was an illegitimate President. Then 9/11.
 
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So the OP was about different versions of the Mueller report. If this means that there is legally redacted version and an unredacted version certain members of Congress can see, yes that would be two different versions.

However, if the OP is claiming there is one version Trump and the AG has and another with information missing for everyone else, then no there are not two different versions.
 
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Several of the obstruction of justice provisions prohibit "endeavors" to obstruct. Section 1503 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits "endeavors" to tamper with jurors and officers of the court. The omnibus clauses of sections 1503 and 1505 prohibit "endeavors" to obstruct justice as well as actual obstructions of justice.
1736. Inchoate Obstruction Of Justice Offenses
Yet Mueller did not bring charges forward citing this US code. Why?

Unless the Supreme Court overturns the current law, Mueller has documented several felonies by Trump.
Yet Mueller did not cite the President for any felonies. Why?

Is this the new course? Second guessing the Left's prosecutorial 'messiah' for the past two years.
 
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So the OP was about different versions of the Mueller report. If this means that there is legally redacted version and an unredacted version certain members of Congress can see, yes that would be two different versions.

However, if the OP is claiming there is one version Trump and the AG has and another with information missing for everyone else, then no there are not two different versions.
For anyone claim that there is a "Trump" version and the real report is just a very desperate refusal to face facts.
 
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And Mueller doesn't give them what they want, they will demonize him and call him a Trump puppet. They will not be kind to Mueller.

And just think all thru the witch hunt they claimed he had impeccable character when that's been debatable for years, they have no clue whatsoever. :doh:
 
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Hey you pose some really good questions. Maybe we need a special prosecutor to look into the Clinton/DNC-Fusion GPS-Steele-Russia connection. I mean there is even a paper trail of who got paid and when. Any junior partner in a DC law firm could spend a couple of nights figuring this out. It's so well documented and admitted to that it won't take two years to figure out.

There also doesn't seem to be any mention of the foreign assets that were used to try and infiltrate the Trump campaign so they could frame Trump. The rhetoric in the report still only mentions Russia tried to interfere with our elections not some of our "supposed" allies.
 
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The Dems know of no limits when it comes to investigations an inquisitions.

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Who did Steele hire to obtain the information to create the dossier? Travel agents in Moscow?
Numerous contacts who he had known while working for MI6. I doubt anyone knows for sure, other than Steele.
 
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Numerous contacts who he had known while working for MI6. I doubt anyone knows for sure, other than Steele.
I think an investigation into this to see if there is something to investigate is warranted. ;)
 
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Whose attempt? The Russian lawyer lady who also worked for Fusion GPS on occasion. The only thing smelly about the Trump Tower meeting was someone with ties to the Trump dossier tried to get Donny Jr to bite on entrapment. The Mueller report addressed this too and found out the Russian lawyer was offering and Donny Jr did not bite.
If the meeting with Donny Jr, Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort and the Russians in Trump Towers was truly a "nothingburger," why the need for this President to invent a "cover story" that it was all about adoptions?

Apparently its not illegal to lie to the American people, but when faced with prison time for committing perjury when testifying before the FBI and the Special Investigator, they tell a totally different story!
 
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I think an investigation into this to see if there is something to investigate is warranted. ;)
There probably has been some. Some has been verified but other parts have been disproved now that the Mueller report has been delivered.
 
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Yet Mueller did not bring charges forward citing this US code. Why?

Yet Mueller did not cite the President for any felonies. Why?

Is this the new course? Second guessing the Left's prosecutorial 'messiah' for the past two years.
Robert Mueller is a registered Republican, who was appointed as Special Investigator by Attorney General Rob Rosenstein, who himself was a President Trump appointment!
 
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Robert Mueller is a registered Republican, who was appointed as Special Investigator by Attorney General Rob Rosenstein, who himself was a President Trump appointment!
Ah so now the fix is in that the media “messiah” is now a Trump and GOP sycophant?

This was predictable.
 
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