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If the options are binary, then perhaps you are correct as far as these points go. Yet at the same time, if you are wrong and, for example, the Muslims are correct then there is a risk to you. .
So ultimately, being convinced on a point has little to nothing to do with whether it carries a risk.
There's always the reading of being cut off from grace by returning too the law, making your obedience to the Sabbath and the rest of the OT laws treating the blood of the covenant as unholy. Which, if one who faltered under moses died without mercy those who treat the blood of the covenant as an unholy thing are facing much worse. No risk, though.Indeed there is "some other set" of doctrines/statements one could make that do not fit the situation in the OP. I specifically picked the ones where the POV selected had no risk if it was wrong.
You are fooling yourself if you think you have no risk if you're wrong. Did you consider that any one of your "no risk" options may not be God's option? You follow the Sabbath in a no risk way just to be safe. But did you stop and ask if God wants us to experience the Sabbath this way? Perhaps or perhaps not but your determining factor seems less interested in what God thinks and more interested in how you can play it safe. Missing the mark seems to be great risk.Indeed there is "some other set" of doctrines/statements one could make that do not fit the situation in the OP. I specifically picked the ones where the POV selected had no risk if it was wrong.
I think the place of judging why one obeys is not a job for us humans, nor does it negate our obligation to obey God.You are fooling yourself if you think you have no risk if you're wrong. Did you consider that any one of your "no risk" options may not be God's option? You follow the Sabbath in a no risk way just to be safe. But did you stop and ask if God wants us to experience the Sabbath this way? Perhaps or perhaps not but your determining factor seems less interested in what God thinks and more interested in how you can play it safe. Missing the mark seems to be great risk.
Safety is the position of the OP, it's not something I've added. But I've just asked the questions, I'm not throwing stones. The OP wants to know the risk, so I said what the risk is and that risk is missing the mark of what God desires.I think the place of judging why one obeys is not a job for us humans, nor does it negate our obligation to obey God.
You are fooling yourself if you think you have no risk if you're wrong. Did you consider that any one of your "no risk" options may not be God's option?
You follow the Sabbath in a no risk way just to be safe. But did you stop and ask if God wants us to experience the Sabbath this way?
your determining factor seems less interested in what God thinks and more interested in how you can play it safe.
I'm not making doctrinal statements of which one of your list is right or wrong. I'm saying it's a flawed argument to say choosing the safe option has no risk (and is implicated the best option) the risk is following the safe option may not God's option.In the first one I point out that God exists and if I am wrong then I still get the gold-prize-ending as the theist... a hole in the ground.
Now it appears you are suggesting this is not actually God's option. How does that logic you are suggesting work starting with #1 in the list?
Safety is the position of the OP
I'm not making a statement on how to follow the Sabbath, I'm making a statement that your motivation to follow the Sabbath is flawed.As I point out in the OP - most of those who oppose the Bible Sabbath claim that Rom 14 says we can all keep whatever day we want to as the Sabbath. Which would still mean I can keep the Sabbath so even in that case "no risk to me".
Did you read the OP??
I'm not making doctrinal statements of which one of your list is right or wrong.
I'm not making a statement on how to follow the Sabbath,
I'm not sure if what your point is here, but my motivation to obey God is not what is safe for me but what gives glory to God. I would love the atheist to approach it the same way.It starts by pointing out that the atheist should look at his two-option scenario and avoid the risk by reconsidering Christianity.
Are you suggesting he/she should ignore that detail and "stick with atheism"? Or are you saying the atheist needs to wake-up but Christians should not be "just as awake" to the risk problem?
I'm not sure if what your point is here, but my motivation to obey God is not what is safe for me but what gives glory to God. I would love the atheist to approach it the same way.
Then you must keep All 10 commandments "perfectly"..Not just one command in order to fulfill the law...otherwise you are hypocrite claiming to keep one command ie 7th day Sabbath and yet fail to keep the other commandments..Maybe you should take a look at my signature because I do not think the Ten Commandments comes in a covenant of one or nine one, God wrote a perfect law of Ten. Sadly, the one commandment that is most disputed has to do with our time, 24 hours dedicated every seventh day of holy communion with God.
Does scriptures teach us to be more like Jesus or less? I agree with your post, but it seems veiled with sarcasm, like following the example that Jesus left is a bad thing.
Only God can reveal God. I hope in my discussion that revation comes out or at least is fostered but I don't won't to communicate to an atheist that I choose God because I'm want to play it safe.So your proposal to the atheist is "hey I know you don't believe that God exists - but don't you think it makes the most sense for you to have as your number one motivation -- doing what gives God glory?"
Is that the kind of discussion you have with atheists in real life - and if so - how did that work for you?
It doesn't really matter how you've justified your choice. If you've missed the point, you've lost in a big way. This is the risk that seems to be lost on you.I simply point out that in each of those examples - you can only risk losing "one way" the other way has no loss, no risk.
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