There is no Hell!

Ben12 · Sep 29, 2007

Cris413 said:
Ben...just gotta love your little nicknames...

"trinie"...

much better than "baby lonian" and much, much better than literaleternalhellist...

what will you come up with next...

hope you take this in the light hearted spirit intended...

Always

Cris413 · Sep 29, 2007

Ben12 said:
Always

Yeah...I'm trying the "more flies with honey" approach

Tavita · Sep 29, 2007

Michael said this....

This is the transliteral for Gen 1:26. "And said Elohiym making man (Adam) in our image..."

Tavita said this...

It's still saying 'in our image'... who's image? Who is the 'our'?

You still haven't answered this one, Michael..

Tavita · Sep 29, 2007

MichaelTheeArchAngel said:
Eloah means: Gods Spirit, and it is a contraction. It also is not translated in our bibles as such. The four beast or creatures can also be translated as: The four beings. And the Seven Lamps are the Seven Spirits. See Rev 4:5.

Rev 4:5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;

I don't think the seven Lamps are literal lamps, they are symbolically the seven Spirits of God. That's how it appears to me, anyway.

I believe these are the seven spirits...

Isa 11:2 The (1)Spirit of the LORD will rest on Him, The (2)spirit of wisdom and (3)understanding, The (4)spirit of counsel and (5)strength (or might), The (6)spirit of knowledge and (7)the fear of the LORD.

I'm also not sure about contractions, so I give you the benefit of the doubt in this instance.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

Tavita said:
Quote:
This is the transliteral for Gen 1:26. "And said Elohiym making man (Adam) in our image..."

Tavita said this...

Quote:
It's still saying 'in our image'... who's image? Who is the 'our'?

You still haven't answered this one, Michael..

"Our" that being the people who already live in the Kingdom of God with Him.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

Tavita said:
Rev 4:5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;

I don't think the seven Lamps are literal lamps, they are symbolically the seven Spirits of God. That's how it appears to me, anyway.

Rev 1:20. The seven Lampstand is the Seven Churches. Zec 3:8. " 'Listen, O high priest of Yahshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have setup as Yahshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,' says Yahwah Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

SoundCard · Sep 29, 2007

Why would God make man in anyone's image other than his own, as that would seem to be paying homage to some other being, which is something I don't think the Lord does?

Nadiine · Sep 29, 2007

SoundCard said:
Why would God make man in anyone's image other than his own, as that would seem to be paying homage to some other being, which is something I don't think the Lord does?

Genesis 1:27
God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Genesis 9:6
" Whoever sheds man's blood,
By man his blood shall be shed,
For in the image of God He made man.

1 Corinthians 11:7
For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.

Colossians 3:10
and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him--

Color me kooky, but I think it's pretty clear that we're made in God's image.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

SoundCard said:
Why would God make man in anyone's image other than his own, as that would seem to be paying homage to some other being, which is something I don't think the Lord does?

Perhaps I should have used the word "THEIR" meaning everybody including God. God made man in His image which also includes the other people.

Nadiine · Sep 29, 2007

MichaelTheeArchAngel said:
Perhaps I should have used the word "THEIR" meaning everybody including God. God made man in His image which also includes the other people.

The account of creation is that man wasn't yet made - this was the first account of man being made IN HIS OWN IMAGE. It can't be gotten around.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

Nadiine said:
The account of creation is that man wasn't yet made - this was the first account of man being made IN HIS OWN IMAGE. It can't be gotten around.

Before God created man, other people lived in the Kingdom of God with Him. Their image: Everyone.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

Rev 1:20. The seven Lampstand is the Seven Churches. Zec 3:8. " 'Listen, O high priest of Yahshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have setup as Yahshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,' says Yahwah Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

Nadiine · Sep 29, 2007

MichaelTheeArchAngel said:
Before God created man, other people lived in the Kingdom of God with Him. Their image: Everyone.

WHAT?????????

My goodness it just keeps getting more and more ______
........... nevermind
Mormon's teach this kinda stuff

FreeinChrist · Sep 29, 2007

"Our" that being the people who already live in the Kingdom of God with Him."

Rev 1:20. The seven Lampstand is the Seven Churches. Zec 3:8. " 'Listen, O high priest of Yahshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have setup as Yahshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,' says Yahwah Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.

oye vey!

So you think that when God said, "let Us make man in Our image" He was referring to other people? And you think Zec. 3:8 supports that odd concept?

That is just so bizarre, I am rather astounded you would think that.
Zec. 3:8 is a prophecy of Jesus Christ who was yet to come in Zechariah's time. It is not support for your claim at all.

FreeinChrist · Sep 29, 2007

Nadiine said:
WHAT?????????

My goodness it just keeps getting more and more ______
........... nevermind
Mormon's teach this kinda stuff

Yep - Mormons teach the preexistence of man as spirit babies.

And JWs teach that Jesus is a created being like he wrote earlier.

SoundCard · Sep 29, 2007

And at some point do Thetans come into the equation? Honestly, there's a difference between not fully comprehending what one part of scripture means, and... this. This is just bizarre warping of facts to some idea that I can't even rightly fathom or take seriously.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

I am not a Morman, and I am not teaching that God created man in Heaven. Im saying that there were other created beings with God when he made man. And the scriptures that I posted was an answer to someone elses question.

GuardianShua · Sep 29, 2007

[Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavita
Rev 4:5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;

I don't think the seven Lamps are literal lamps, they are symbolically the seven Spirits of God. That's how it appears to me, anyway. [/QUOTE]

Rev 1:20. The seven Lampstand is the Seven Churches. See also: Zec 3:8. " 'Listen, O high priest of Yahshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. 9 See, the stone I have setup as Yahshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,' says Yahwah Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day.Eloah means: Gods Spirit, and it is a contraction. It also is not translated in our bibles as such. The four beast or creatures can also be translated as: The four beings. And the Seven Lamps are the Seven Spirits. See Rev 4:5.

Nadiine · Sep 29, 2007

FreeinChrist said:
Yep - Mormons teach the preexistence of man as spirit babies.

And JWs teach that Jesus is a created being like he wrote earlier.

Exactly! He can try to spin it any way he wants, but these are the same basic types of teachings from these 2 (can they be called cults here?) I don't even know with the rules the way they are now.

This is as Unorthodox as it GETS kids - making doctrines up out of stuff that's so vague and read in - and doesn't mesh with the rest of scripture as I read it.
This is the height of it.

Nadiine · Sep 29, 2007

FreeinChrist said:
oye vey!

So you think that when God said, "let Us make man in Our image" He was referring to other people? And you think Zec. 3:8 supports that odd concept?

That is just so bizarre, I am rather astounded you would think that.
Zec. 3:8 is a prophecy of Jesus Christ who was yet to come in Zechariah's time. It is not support for your claim at all.

I'll second that Oy Vey, AND RAISE YOU ONE!

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