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There Are Good People On Both Sides

Yonny Costopoulis

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He did not say that, Yonny.
That exactly what he say. Here quote: "some very fine people on both sides".

Said some Nazis and KKK very fine people. I quote from other post:

If person comes and sees Nazi march with Nazi salute and march with Nazi flag and march with Nazi chant and march with KKK flag and march with KKK torch and person joins march person is NOT "very fine people". Person is Nazis and KKK.

Is very simple "Very Fine People" NOT march with Nazis and KKK. If people march with Nazis and KKK are NOT "very fine people". Person is Nazis and KKK.

Albion I think you good person. I not believe if you see Nazi march chanting Nazi slogan and carry Nazi flag you join Nazi march for any reason. Can Agree?
 
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His wiki page doesn't say anything about him being alt right. Oh, my bad. I found John Bellamy Foster and figured that was who you were talking about. Who is John Bellamy, just John Bellamy.
 
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....Trump believes he saw these "good people"....

TRUMP: I will tell you something. I watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. And you have — you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent, and nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group — you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit, and they were very, very violent.

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: Go ahead.

QUESTION: Do you think that the — what you call the alt-left is the same as neo-Nazis?

TRUMP: Those people — all of those people — excuse me. I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee.

So — excuse me. And you take a look at some of the groups and you see — and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not, but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.

In his own words: President Trump on Charlottesville protest
You would think that, having waited all those days to get all the facts, Trump would know the fact that the counter protestors did indeed have permits: Charlottesville Grants 2 Permits for Counterprotests of Unite the Right Rally

Sounds like he only collected the facts that he wanted to hear......
 
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That exactly what he say. Here quote: "some very fine people on both sides".
Not even close. What you said was this: "Trump say some Nazi and KKK 'very fine people'. Everyone hear very clear."

And your reply to me is:
Here quote: "some very fine people on both sides".

He did not even mention the Nazis or KKK in that sentence of his. Shame on you. The "sides" being referred to were the "bring down the Confederate memorial" side and the "Leave the monument in place" side. There were apparently people present at first who supported one or the other of those views and were not members of any of the militant groups that fought with each other.
 
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Trump is lying? Does she think he was at Charlottesville or something? He looked at the facts that were available to him, and came to a conclusion as to what happened. As he pointed out, one side had a permit to rally, the other did not.
Well, he.... I'm not sure how to say this without shattering your world but I guess I should just go out and say it.... he.... Lied.

Charlottesville Grants 2 Permits for Counterprotests of Unite the Right Rally

Those facts were available to him. And he lied.
 
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To the original post:

Not according to God:

Romans 3:10-18 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; (11) no one understands; no one seeks for God. (12) All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one." (13) "Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive." "The venom of asps is under their lips." (14) "Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness." (15) "Their feet are swift to shed blood; (16) in their paths are ruin and misery, (17) and the way of peace they have not known." (18) "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
 
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Not even close. What you said was this: "Trump say some Nazi and KKK 'very fine people'. Everyone hear very clear."

And your reply to me is:


He did not even mention the Nazis or KKK in that sentence of his. Shame on you. The "sides" being referred to were the "bring down the Confederate memorial" side and the "Leave the monument in place" side. There were apparently people present at first who supported one or the other of those views and were not members of any of the militant groups that fought with each other.
And here is reply:

That exactly what he say. Here quote: "some very fine people on both sides".

Said some Nazis and KKK very fine people. I quote from other post:

If person comes and sees Nazi march with Nazi salute and march with Nazi flag and march with Nazi chant and march with KKK flag and march with KKK torch and person joins march person is NOT "very fine people". Person is Nazis and KKK.

Is very simple "Very Fine People" NOT march with Nazis and KKK. If people march with Nazis and KKK are NOT "very fine people". Person is Nazis and KKK.

Albion I think you good person. I not believe if you see Nazi march chanting Nazi slogan and carry Nazi flag you join Nazi march for any reason. Can Agree?
 
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He did not even mention the Nazis or KKK in that sentence of his. Shame on you. The "sides" being referred to were the "bring down the Confederate memorial" side and the "Leave the monument in place" side. There were apparently people present at first who supported one or the other of those views and were not members of any of the militant groups that fought with each other.
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Read the transcript of Donald Trump's jaw-dropping press conference

Reporter: Who was treated unfairly? Sir, I'm sorry I don't understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don't understand what you were saying.

Trump: No. No. There were people in that rally — and I looked the night before. If you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people: neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest — and very legally protest, because you know- I don't know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit. So, I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country. Does anybody have a final- does anybody- you have an infrastructure question.

Donald Trump himself DID not have all the facts. The people he was referencing were Nazis, KKK, and White Nationalists the PEOPLE who shouted BLOOD AND SOIL AND JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US.

Those WERE the FIRST people there and were there before the ANTI-PROTESTERS came.

Also Quietly protesting That was Hilarious.


Trump: Well, George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So, will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down- Excuse me. Are we going to take down, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?

Trump misunderstanding U.S. History yet again. Sympathizing with the White Nationalist Supremacy, KKK, Nazis.

Trump: [Inaudible.] You have some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

Right, Very Fine People such as the Racists, Nazi's and KKK the people who he eventually was referencing about were them as they were there first. They were not Peacefully Protesting Either.
 
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I've shown that this is not true. End of discussion.
End because you lose.

Nobody see Nazi and KKK march making Nazing slogans carry Nazi flag carry KKK torch and flag and then join march if they not Nazi and KKK.

We not talking about peoples protesting high insurance prices, we talking about Nazis and KKK. EVERYBODY know what Nazi and KKK mean and what it mean to march with them. Risk job if not Nazi or KKK? No.
 
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